[NFL] NFL Thread (26-27)

You know, I'm trying to be open-minded but when the 49ers trade back, trade back, trade back and then draft the same 3 positions they always draft (and most of those WR, EDGE, RB picks in the top half of the draft have been busts) and on top of that they reach way down the board on all three of them... well, this better work because if things go south I will be among the many pointing at this 2026 draft as the moment where this front office began to wear out their welcome.
 
The_Jamal said:
Looks like Stribling was one of the biggest late risers in the class. Had to turn down visits with the interest he was getting. Dane Brugler (one of the top "public" draft guys) was pretty confident he'd go top 64, just wasn't sure how high.

Seems like a damn near 1 for 1 replacement for Jennings with a 4.36 on top of it. Pretty universal he's the best blocking WR, has a great mentality and approach. YAC guy.
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Yeah he looks faster than Jennings, but not as good a route runner (yet).
 
hrdboild said:
You know, I'm trying to be open-minded but when the 49ers trade back, trade back, trade back and then draft the same 3 positions they always draft (and most of those WR, EDGE, RB picks in the top half of the draft have been busts) and on top of that they reach way down the board on all three of them... well, this better work because if things go south I will be among the many pointing at this 2026 draft as the moment where this front office began to wear out their welcome.
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Neglect OL and CB - the usual.....their secondary draft scouts suck.
 
hrdboild said:
I don't have a problem with the Stribling pick. A bit of a reach, he might have been there at #58 but if you like the guy that much, why take a chance. It's just the general lack of attention paid to what has been a flaming disaster of an Offensive Line for the last 3 years in a row which continues to bother me, but it is what it is. After they traded down at #27 it was obvious they weren't taking an OT. Trent Williams is going to be wheeled onto the field with bolts coming out of his neck like Frankenstein's monster pretty soon and he'll still be better than the other 4 dudes starting with him.
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Williams has equal chance not to play even half the season at his age and wear-and-tear
 
ESP47 said:
My hot takes after only seeing one min highlight reels:

Stupid pick position wise but Stribling looks legit.

Height does not look very effective. 2-3 sack guy max.

Black is a total waste of a pick. Looks like a 6th rounder. I really can't believe they took him that high but I can because they just can't help but draft bust RBs in the 3rd round.
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Agree on the RB, poor 3rd round choice of personnel. WR more optimistic about by a good margin.
 
From Espn - "Black attacks the line of scrimmage and runs hard through contact. But just two running backs were off the board at pick No. 90, and the Niners took my RB12. Can you imagine Mike Washington Jr.'s speed in Kyle Shanahan's offense? Or Emmett Johnson's ability in the pass game? Black doesn't contribute as a pass catcher. He capped off a really odd night for San Francisco."

Yep - 4.45 speed is run-of-the-mill in the NFL - might be nice in college...... you wonder why the 49ers tread-water despite knocking a grand slam with Purdy at last pick? Their darts have sucked, and so does their management. Seahawks just won the superbowl thanks in large part to their drafting.
 
hrdboild said:
You know, I'm trying to be open-minded but when the 49ers trade back, trade back, trade back and then draft the same 3 positions they always draft (and most of those WR, EDGE, RB picks in the top half of the draft have been busts) and on top of that they reach way down the board on all three of them... well, this better work because if things go south I will be among the many pointing at this 2026 draft as the moment where this front office began to wear out their welcome.
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NFL draft is one of those things where fans are damn quick to judge how good the class is, when they have literally no idea who 99% of the guys are being drafted and think consensus mock drafts really mean anything in terms of how teams are actually grading these guys. And honestly, I get our low hit rate on the skill positions, but it's a far bigger need than we're thinking; CMC/Evans/Kittle have maybe 2 good years if they stay healthy. Aiyuk and Jennings gone. And in-house, Pearsall showed real flashes when he stayed healthy, but still needs to prove it for a full season.

Just be right, and no one will care about the mock draft board. Same deal with any other draft.
 
The_Jamal said:
NFL draft is one of those things where fans are damn quick to judge how good the class is, when they have literally no idea who 99% of the guys are being drafted and think consensus mock drafts really mean anything in terms of how teams are actually grading these guys. And honestly, I get our low hit rate on the skill positions, but it's a far bigger need than we're thinking; CMC/Evans/Kittle have maybe 2 good years if they stay healthy. Aiyuk and Jennings gone. And in-house, Pearsall showed real flashes when he stayed healthy, but still needs to prove it for a full season.

Just be right, and no one will care about the mock draft board. Same deal with any other draft.
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It doesn't matter how many WRs, RBs, and TEs you have... if your Offensive Line can't protect the QB or create holes to run through then all your fancy toys are worth nothing. Purdy is the future of the team. There's no stopping the march of time when it comes to Kittle, CMac, Bosa, Warner, etc. Yes it would be great to get them all a championship but I don't think that should supersede the more important goal of protecting the $265 million investment they've already made with Purdy. Nobody has enough draft picks and cap space to get everything they want so how you choose to make those investments is important. The 49ers have been acting like the Offensive Line doesn't matter when it actually is the engine that allows everyone else to do their jobs.
 
hrdboild said:
It doesn't matter how many WRs, RBs, and TEs you have... if your Offensive Line can't protect the QB or create holes to run through then all your fancy toys are worth nothing. Purdy is the future of the team. There's no stopping the march of time when it comes to Kittle, CMac, Bosa, Warner, etc. Yes it would be great to get them all a championship but I don't think that should supersede the more important goal of protecting the $265 million investment they've already made with Purdy. Nobody has enough draft picks and cap space to get everything they want so how you choose to make those investments is important. The 49ers have been acting like the Offensive Line doesn't matter when it actually is the engine that allows everyone else to do their jobs.
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OK, but you and I have no idea what the actual value is of any of these prospects. Its easy to say "just draft it!", but if theres no one there to draft.

If they have a high grade on Black and a poor OL grade across the board, they should stick to their board. Always follow BPA
 
Lynch and Shanahan’s BPA at drafting running backs is notoriously bad. Black probably won’t even be active on game day but some dude they grab off the street will be.

Also, dudes already 25? Lol
 
The_Jamal said:
OK, but you and I have no idea what the actual value is of any of these prospects. Its easy to say "just draft it!", but if theres no one there to draft.

If they have a high grade on Black and a poor OL grade across the board, they should stick to their board. Always follow BPA
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They reached with every single pick this year and the highest rated player they took in this entire draft was projected to go in the middle of the third round. You're right that projections don't necessarily mean anything. Brock Purdy is the best example of that. But it's been multiple years of the Niners whiffing on nearly all of their early picks so I don't think I'm wrong to take a "prove it" attitude toward their approach to scouting. Past history suggests that the two 5th round picks will be the only players from this group we're still talking about in 4 years.
 
Still looking for a shutdown corner - nada. ......were these supposed to be highlights for Prysock? A couple of nice open field tackles and 1 gimme interception....but no defended balls in the air.....no ball hawking skills shown - could be a poor reel - he's late to the receiver consistently, and that's college.....

 
I don’t watch college football and the player pool too vast to spend time with pre-draft research, so I don’t have an opinion on how the Niners did.

But a common theme with espn pre draft analysis with our picks(and in past years) is undersized. Also, whenever we draft a corner the first thing the analysis notes is that he doesn’t stick with receivers very well and that’s what it says for the guy we drafted this year. And has delivered with our spree of failed cornerbacks. You’d think they might just trade for a proven good one by now.

It’s like when we drafted Trey Lance and the first thing they said was “he needs to work on his passing” and I immediately knew they screwed up.
 
Kingz19 said:
I don’t watch college football and the player pool too vast to spend time with pre-draft research, so I don’t have an opinion on how the Niners did.

But a common theme with espn pre draft analysis with our picks(and in past years) is undersized. Also, whenever we draft a corner the first thing the analysis notes is that he doesn’t stick with receivers very well and that’s what it says for the guy we drafted this year. And has delivered with our spree of failed cornerbacks. You’d think they might just trade for a proven good one by now.

It’s like when we drafted Trey Lance and the first thing they said was “he needs to work on his passing” and I immediately knew they screwed up.
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I've repeated this a couple times for the 49ers - the other year the 49ers drafted Pearsall, they could've traded up just a couple slots for maybe a 5th or 6th rounder and picked up Nate Wiggins - who ran a 4.28 ---40yrd-dash in the combine and got picked up by the Ravens 1 or 2 slots before the 49ers and now starts for the Ravens. Wiggins is easily better than any of the 49ers "C+" at best cornerbacks. - He ran 24mph at the combine - and 9th fastest in league history in the combine....it matters less how good a tackler you are when the receiver has 2 steps on you - one wrong move and you're toast. And the object of the secondary is interception or ball denial over tackling. A reception and a tackle is really a failure in most situations. Prysock is more of the same crud, just taller and with some length - all of them abusable. 24 mph is faster than Tyreke Hill and Rahim Mostert best recorded speeds according to a search...and only a small handful of players in the entire league post better speed/times than Higgins. There are other facets of play besides speed and quickness, but those are core attributes to succeeding and what give players big edges on the field

Anyway,
41-6 loss to the Seahawks, the 2nd worst in 49er franshise playoff history (35 pt differentail, 1st to the 86 Giants 46pts). I'm not sure either of the superbowl losing 49er teams in '20 or '24 could've beaten last years seahawks but the loss differential would've been closer or respectable at least as cerainly the 49ers defense would've done better than last year's crud. As opposed to the 49er Management - the Seahawks covered both secondary and D-Line on their team making their defense much more formidable/well rounded. Shanahan and co were tooled and there's more of that next season. 49ers defense is getting weaker and weaker. Their defensive picks aren't hitting enough. They're f@#$king bringng back walking wounded Greenlaw whom I have doubts will remain healthy during next season. Unless Greenlaw can regain form and consistency, the 49ers will have to hope their rookiex/2nd year players step up as they released Winters for a draft pick. to keep cap down. That is a big expectation gap.
 
The lowest draft grade of all teams in Kiper's artical (unsurprisingly):

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San Francisco 49ers: C ESPN​

Top needs entering the draft: Offensive tackle, guard, safety, edge rusher, tight end, wide receiver
The 49ers traded out of Day 1, and I wrote about their Day 2 on Friday night. There were some really confusing picks in this class. I like De'Zhaun Stribling, Kaelon Black and some others, but it seemed like general manager John Lynch went off the board to get the guys he wanted, often way ahead of where they were valued.
The Niners needed to fix their depth more than anything. Last season, injuries gutted the roster. San Francisco went 12-5 and lost in the divisional round, but it was a what-could-have-been kind of season. Nick Bosa (knee) missed 14 games. Fred Warner (ankle) missed 11. Mykel Williams missed the back half of his rookie year with his own knee injury. George Kittle was out six games, and the receiver room took its share of hits (perhaps most notable with Brandon Aiyuk not returning at all and now looking like he'll be headed elsewhere).
On top of all that, Trent Williams is turning 38 years old. He recently agreed to a reworked deal that at least ensures he will be there in 2026, but I had San Francisco looking at the OT class even before the two sides settled on a restructure. The team needs to be thinking ahead.
Stribling has wheels, running a 4.36 in the 40-yard dash, and he accelerates immediately. Black runs through contact with power. Romello Height has burst and bend off the edge. But all three Day 2 players were significant reaches. Stribing was No. 73 on my board, Height was No. 107 and Black was way outside my top 150. Instead of Stribling, San Francisco could have gotten Denzel Boston. Instead of Height, it could have gotten someone like Jaishawn Barham. There were nine RBs available ahead of Black, including some guys with elite speed (Mike Washington Jr.), great hands (Emmett Johnson) and home-run ability (Kaytron Allen).
Day 3 was more of the same, with the exception of their first pick of the day. Gracen Halton jams running backs at the line of scrimmage despite weighing only 293 pounds. He had 10.5 tackles for loss and 16 run stops last season. He should be in the mix for playing time as a 3-technique, and I'm a fan of the value on this pick. But I'm not sure San Francisco did enough otherwise.

The 49ers' 2026 draft picks:​

De'Zhaun Stribling WR, Ole Miss (2nd Rd / #33 Overall)
Romello Height EDGE, Texas Tech (3rd Rd / #70 Overall)
Kaelon Black RB, Indiana (3rd Rd / #90 Overall)
Gracen Halton DT, Oklahoma (4th Rd / #107 Overall)
Carver Willis OT/OG, Washington (4th Rd / #127 Overall)
Ephesians Prysock CB, Washington (4th Rd / #139 Overall)
Jaden Dugger LB, Louisiana (5th Rd / #154 Overall)
Enrique Cruz Jr. OT, Kansas (5th Rd / #179 Overall)

EDITED to clean up formatting. -hrdboild
 
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49ers vs Rams in Melbourne on Netflix .....prime we get anyway, but annoying having NFL whore-out to highest bidder - now Netflix. The second they go off OTA-Free, that's the hack-and-slash of my viewership time Commericals no longer enough as its been rolling toward for quite a few years..
 
Feels like trading Jared Verse and picks for Myles Garrett is an improvement but not nearly the improvement it could’ve been for the Rams
 
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