New Kings get first taste of team's style

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New Kings get their first taste of team's style
By Sam Amick -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Sunday, February 26, 2006


There were first impressions flying every which way at the Kings' practice facility Saturday.

Center Vitaly Potapenko, coming from Seattle, and former Portland small forward Sergei Monia joined the Kings for the first time since being traded to Sacramento on Thursday. On the flip side, the holdover Kings gave a nowhere-to-go-but-up effort in their first floor time with the newest Kings.

Coach Rick Adelman, who viewed this three-day stretch of practices before Monday's game against Portland as "building blocks" for the rest of the season, was disappointed by the second session.

"We could've got a lot more done than we did," Adelman said. "Hopefully tomorrow will be a lot better. The concentration and approach wasn't good, not what we need. ... We got things done, but it wasn't the level we needed to have it at."

As for the veteran Potapenko and rookie Monia, they could play at the highest level from here on out and still make minimal impact. The 6-foot-10 Potapenko, who is with his fourth team and spent the last three seasons in Seattle, will face the same problem as that of departed center Brian Skinner.

"I'm going to basically play Shareef (Abdur-Rahim) behind Kenny (Thomas) and Brad (Miller)," Adelman said. "(Abdur-Rahim) is going to get a lot of minutes."

In the NBA, Potapenko hasn't lived up to the reputation he established in college. For two seasons, the Ukrainian-born player attended Wright State, where he averaged 19.9 points and 6.9 rebounds and twice made the All-Midwestern Collegiate Conference team. Potapenko was drafted 12th overall by Cleveland in the 1996 draft - ahead of Kobe Bryant, Peja Stojakovic, Steve Nash and Jermaine O'Neal. But while Potapenko's professional production (6.7 points and 4.6 rebounds) has been less than spectacular, his physical presence could come in handy.

"Vitaly's a stronger, physical guy, and we don't have a lot of that at the center spot," Adelman said.

Potapenko agreed. "Around the league, there's always a need for big guys to play physical inside and guard the big guys," he said. "I'm trying to learn plays, fit in where I can and be ready."

Monia is the mystery in the deal, a 22-year-old who was drafted 23rd overall in 2004 but didn't play in the NBA until this season. Monia has seen both extremes of the league in his first five months: He started 15 games for Portland but also played for two weeks in the NBA Development League for the Fort Worth (Texas) Flyers. Partly because of a language barrier, even Monia couldn't figure out what he brings to the Kings.

"I don't know because, for the last two months, I didn't play," Monia said. "But for my career, this is a new step. Maybe I play more."

Monia's minutes also will be limited, Adelman said, but he will help shore up a small forward cache that wasn't quite deep enough. And although Monia - on contract through next season - might not make a splash now, Portland general manager John Nash said he eventually could flourish. Looking for a player of Skinner's ilk, Nash had to add Monia to the deal to match the salaries, per league parameters. Monia's lack of playing time, Nash said, came because of a logjam of small forward on the Trail Blazers' roster, not a lack of talent.

"(Monia) didn't get much opportunity with us," Nash said. "But he's got a strong body, can handle the ball reasonably well. Small forward is probably his natural position, but he has the ability to shoot from the perimeter, and he can put the ball on the floor as well."

Nash elaborated in an interview with the Oregonian.

"If there's anything I regret about it, that's what I regret - giving up on Monia," Nash said. "Certainly he didn't get an opportunity to play here, and I think he would have down the road."

About the writer: The Bee's Sam Amick can be reached at (916) 326-5582 or samick@sacbee.com.
 
...gah its not letting me edit my last post...but it was in regards to :

"Vitaly's a stronger, physical guy, and we don't have a lot of that at the center spot," Adelman said.
 
Probably won't play that long when Pryz and Ratliff get back, but he'll still see mid-teen minutes per game. Anyways, nice first game for him, wish Rick would of played him close to that, and regularly.
 
Like I said in my other thread, we need a strong, physical guy down low. Miller is softer than a cupcake, and he's a 7 footer who takes jumpshots. We have no presence down low, and no one who can block shots. Look at what Artest did for us, just being a solid defender and getting steals. Imagine what we'd be like with a strong low-post presence. Trade bonzi and kenny thomas (turnover machines, refer to the 9 TO game bonzi had and K9's bad passes), let Kevin Martin get experience and keep playing well, and trade Miller as well.
 
beemerr23 said:
Like I said in my other thread, we need a strong, physical guy down low. Miller is softer than a cupcake, and he's a 7 footer who takes jumpshots. We have no presence down low, and no one who can block shots. Look at what Artest did for us, just being a solid defender and getting steals. Imagine what we'd be like with a strong low-post presence. Trade bonzi and kenny thomas (turnover machines, refer to the 9 TO game bonzi had and K9's bad passes), let Kevin Martin get experience and keep playing well, and trade Miller as well.


Oh really I thought he was as dominant as Wilt...
 
beemerr23 said:
Like I said in my other thread, we need a strong, physical guy down low. Miller is softer than a cupcake, and he's a 7 footer who takes jumpshots. We have no presence down low, and no one who can block shots. Look at what Artest did for us, just being a solid defender and getting steals. Imagine what we'd be like with a strong low-post presence. Trade bonzi and kenny thomas (turnover machines, refer to the 9 TO game bonzi had and K9's bad passes), let Kevin Martin get experience and keep playing well, and trade Miller as well.

EVERY team could use a strong, physical guy down low. They don't grow on trees, you know. Interestingly enough, however, we do have someone who can block shots. His name is Cisco Garcia.

Kenny Thomas may have problems at times with turnovers, but he's still the dominant rebounder on the team right now. I don't think you want to get rid of that... As far as Bonzi's ONE bad game with turnovers, if you recall it was the last game he played when he was clearly NOT well and reinjured his groin.

I'm interested in seeing if Vitaly can give us a few minutes of presence in the paint like Tag did. If so, then he'll probably see a few minutes.

Our lineup is pretty much set anyway, so the chances of either Vitaly or Sergie seeing much time on the court through April are most likely pretty slim.

One more thing? Having a 7 footer who can shoot jumpers is a GOOD thing. He spreads the defense and draws defenders out to him. That is NOT a bad thing.
 
VF21 said:
One more thing? Having a 7 footer who can shoot jumpers is a GOOD thing. He spreads the defense and draws defenders out to him. That is NOT a bad thing.

Well, a lot of teams would beg to differ. Passive big men are normally problematic. But it works for us, or did under the old system. But once you've made that decision that Brad is the guy, it completely dictates what type of player you have to get to play alongside him. You have a weak, groundbound, softish center, you've really got no choice then on the PF. It can't be a 6'7" guy who can't defend. It can't be a blown up SF with a post game but no rebounding or interior defense skills. If you want to be good you've got to find the anti-Brad to cover for the things he can't do.

And that makes it tough. Because most teams not named us truly value big men who can stop up the lane and control the paint.
 
I was simply addressing his comment that having a 7-footer who can shoot jumpers was a bad thing. I didn't say it should be the only thing Brad does. ;)
 
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When this trade first went down, I was dissapointed in losing Skinner, but when push comes to shove...He's not a true center.

Now we have a true backup center...Granted he's not a very good one, but since I heard of the trade I've thought to myself that Potopenko could get around 10 minutes spotting Brad out there.

Of course, he has SAR and Corliss ahead of him on the depth chart...

And as for Jamal...0.5 blocks a game isn't necesarily proving to block shots...I really wish the NBA would change the stupid 2-year rule with the NBDL...Not only would it give players like Sampson (Potential-filled young guys who never see the floor) a chance to get constant minutes, and develop as players, it would aslo give the NBDL a boost...I mean, the Jamal Sampson's and Linton Johnson's of the world wouldn't give the NBDL much more fanfare, but it would provide it with better players...Which would lead to better competition...Whcih would lead to DEVELOPMENT.
 
I mean, the Jamal Sampson's and Linton Johnson's of the world wouldn't give the NBDL much more fanfare, but it would provide it with better players...Which would lead to better competition...Whcih would lead to DEVELOPMENT.

Sorry, but that's way too logical.

;)
 
SLAB said:
When this trade first went down, I was dissapointed in losing Skinner, but when push comes to shove...He's not a true center.

Now we have a true backup center...Granted he's not a very good one, but since I heard of the trade I've thought to myself that Potopenko could get around 10 minutes spotting Brad out there.

Of course, he has SAR and Corliss ahead of him on the depth chart...

And as for Jamal...0.5 blocks a game isn't necesarily proving to block shots...I really wish the NBA would change the stupid 2-year rule with the NBDL...Not only would it give players like Sampson (Potential-filled young guys who never see the floor) a chance to get constant minutes, and develop as players, it would aslo give the NBDL a boost...I mean, the Jamal Sampson's and Linton Johnson's of the world wouldn't give the NBDL much more fanfare, but it would provide it with better players...Which would lead to better competition...Whcih would lead to DEVELOPMENT.

In small time it is. Which is what Sampson got in Charlotte and put up decent numbers off the bench. Some box-scores here (some are blow-outs, but still):

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7075&page=18&highlight=Jamal+Sampson

Linton Johnson had a really good debut with Hornets vs. the Jazz the other night, 17 points, 11 boards. So glad that he seems to of finally found a spot on a team that will play him solid minutes. I thought he'd be a regular guy off the bench for the Nets at the start of this season, but that wasn't the case at all.
 
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SacTownKid said:
I wonder how that makes Brad feel! big wuss. :p

I love how RA doesn't use a lot of fluff, plus he isn't lying. Brad practically gets out of the way as opponents slam on us. I wonder if this is due to us seemingly needing him so much on the offensive end, we cannot afford to lose him to fouling out. I, however, would love him to put guys to the floor and wave his finger "NO NO, not on my Watch" anytime to how it is now. We have a consistency of a Twinkie inside and teams know it and attach this weakness. Look at what the LA Kobies did to us last game. I'd love to have Tag this year and to get some minutes, he's a tough son of a gun. :D

How can we honestly say that SAR and Corliss are ahead of Vitaly??? We don't have a true backup center, the only 1 besides Vitaly is Jamal and he doesn't play and I think is titled a PF, eventhough he could and does play center in garbage time. Is Corliss our 3rd string Center???? I sure the hell hope not, that would be pretty pathetic. ;-) I don't see Corliss as anything other than a backup SF, he is said to be 6' 7" but looks more like all of 6' 5".
 
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