Mock Draft Kings #2 lists
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Agreed, but even then, they were really only solid on the obvious picks (Anthony Davis at #1) and on general draft ranges until say the morning of the draft. That was when their updates usually started to reflect something resembling what actually happened. I know it's only two days away, but we're still a bit far out to expect solid intel to come out of the front offices. And frankly, we've been more or less definitively tied to three different players in just the last week. Depending on who you ask, we're either totally taking Doncic or totally taking Bagley or totally taking Porter. My read is: NOBODY OUTSIDE OUR FRONT OFFICE KNOWS. NOBODY.
It's a narrative that's warranted. Have people quickly forgotten that we spent the #13 and #22 pick in 2016, just to cut them 1 1/2 years later? What message does this send out to agents? Draft prospects? It's just not a good outlook. Before that, we had no problem shipping out T-Rob half way through, and Stauskas after 1 year. If you're drafted in the 1st round, you shouldn't have to worry about stability. Most young players stay on the same team until their rookie contract expires.
This turns out to be not true.
I looked back at five drafts: 2009-2013, chosen to be the most recent five drafts which are at least four years out, so everybody in those drafts has had an opportunity to play through their rookie contract. I looked at players drafted between 11-30, because obviously top-10 picks are more likely to stay in one place, and you are talking about players at #13 and #22, which fits nicely in that range. That gave me 100 players to look at.
Of those 100 players, 1 has not set foot on an NBA court (Livio Jean-Charles) so let's forget about him. Of the other 99 players, 65 - that's almost two-thirds - did NOT play a full four years for the team that drafted them. Technically, if I wanted a true two-thirds I could have included Festus Ezeli, but he actually was under contract for his fourth year and did not play due to injury, so I did not count him.
I looked back at five drafts: 2009-2013, chosen to be the most recent five drafts which are at least four years out, so everybody in those drafts has had an opportunity to play through their rookie contract. I looked at players drafted between 11-30, because obviously top-10 picks are more likely to stay in one place, and you are talking about players at #13 and #22, which fits nicely in that range. That gave me 100 players to look at.
Of those 100 players, 1 has not set foot on an NBA court (Livio Jean-Charles) so let's forget about him. Of the other 99 players, 65 - that's almost two-thirds - did NOT play a full four years for the team that drafted them. Technically, if I wanted a true two-thirds I could have included Festus Ezeli, but he actually was under contract for his fourth year and did not play due to injury, so I did not count him.
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I don't like his comment that there's "no chance of reinjury" because that's simply not true. There's just something about this whole thing that sits the wrong way with me.
I don't like his comment that there's "no chance of reinjury" because that's simply not true. There's just something about this whole thing that sits the wrong way with me.
Treat it like Madlibs and pick your favorite verb. I'm not particularly attached to the word "hiding." Concealing, withholding.... I dunno. My words have had no impact on his draft status.
Porter has had imaging reviewed and medical professionals look at him. I can only assume he's done enough in the eyes of his agent and the lottery teams.
Porter has had imaging reviewed and medical professionals look at him. I can only assume he's done enough in the eyes of his agent and the lottery teams.
Yes all players in the nba are at risk for injury and can never have 'no chance' of recurrence. Players with the greatest risk are those that have been previously injured. MPJ missed close to his entire freshman season because of an injury. Prior to that, he played his HS ball with ongoing back pain. Also incredibly recurrent. He couldn't get out of bed the other day because of pain and spasms.
This doesn't mean he will get injured. Rather, if he stays healthy it will be against the odds. It doesn't mean he won't have a reasonable career. T-mac had a good one despite back issues. Others, including lottery, picks have not.
If I'm advising the kings on MPJ the answer at 2 is no. Not ahead of a young Euro wonder kid who has proven durable across however many Euro seasons, not ahead of two good Duke freshman that project as good pros, not ahead of JJJ who improved throughout his single college year.
This doesn't mean he will get injured. Rather, if he stays healthy it will be against the odds. It doesn't mean he won't have a reasonable career. T-mac had a good one despite back issues. Others, including lottery, picks have not.
If I'm advising the kings on MPJ the answer at 2 is no. Not ahead of a young Euro wonder kid who has proven durable across however many Euro seasons, not ahead of two good Duke freshman that project as good pros, not ahead of JJJ who improved throughout his single college year.