Mobley fined AGAIN

[Kingsgurl]

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Another fine for NBA Kings after protest of ref's non-call

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NEW YORK (AFP) - Sacramento guard Cuttino Mobley was fined 10,000 dollars by the National Basketball Association for his protest to a referee following the Kings' second controversial last-second defeat.


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Mobley was fined for verbal abuse of an official and failing to leave the court in a timely manner following Sacramento's 115-113 home loss last Friday to the Dallas Mavericks (news).



The Kings suffered their second controversial goaltending no-call within five days to lose their fourth game in a row, their worst skid since 2000, and once again received a slap from the league for protesting their fate.



Mobley went for a layup that would have given the Kings a three-point lead with less than 30 seconds to play but Erick Dampier blocked the shot.



Replays showed he hit the ball after it hit the backboard and a goaltending violation should have been called, counting the basket.



"Everybody saw it," Mobley said after the game. "The tape (doesn't) lie. I am upset that it comes down to the refs having that power. We shouldn't let it get to that situation but sometimes it's like that."



Instead, Mobley was denied and Jason Terry converted a 3-point play, making a difficult shot after being fouled by Chris Webber and sinking a free throw to produce the final margin.



Sacramento's Mike Bibby missed a 3-point attempt at the buzzer and Mobley angrily yelled at the referees before leaving the court.



In a 125-123 loss to Phoenix last Tuesday, Kings center Brad Miller's last-second layup was blocked by Amare Stoudemire. The Kings protested in vain that the ball was above the cylinder.



Miller was suspended one game and three others fined for on-court actions after that loss.



The Kings snapped their losing streak with a 104-100 victory at Boston on Sunday, improving to 33-18, fifth in the Western Conference.



Kings coach Rick Adelman was upset after the latest non-call that cost his club dearly.



"It's mind-boggling how you can miss that (call) when the ball clearly hits the board first," Adelman said. "It's a shame that there is nothing we can do about it."

Dampier said he thought the block was good and noted, "It goes down in the book as a good block."

 

[Kingsgurl]

so, why weren't the mavs fined for not leaving the court in a timely manner as they jumped around like giddy school girls on the court?

Obviously, the league has decided this is a pissing match, and one Mobley will NOT be allowed to win. How DARE he question the sanctity of the refs decisions, or wear that stupid hat.

 

[Mad Iron]

Of course he was fined. He pointed out the second game-deciding non-call against the Kings in a 3 day span. That's against the rules and he should be punished. Lets not dwell on the refs inability to do their jobs correctly.

 

[iheartBrad]

this is like a late whistle...when did they decide to fine him TODAY? Thats crap the game was like how many days ago and they are just now gonna fine somebody...it was basically forgotten about and now you bring the drama up again...but ya know what happened right...the ref went running home to mommy and got Cat fined.

Kingsgurl...apparently when you are celebrating a victory there is no time limit in which you must get off the floor

 

[Elise10]

So next they're gonna fine Brad for getting Cuttino off the court.

Who's all for shock collars and muzzles? Since it seems like you can't say or do anything that's perceived to be towards a ref.

It's BS.

Dampier said he thought the block was good and noted, "It goes down in the book as a good block."

As far as I'm concerned it's now FED.

 

[iheartBrad]

i thought that was funny what ED said...cuz he didn't just say "it goes down in the book as a block" he said "it goes down in the book as a GOOD block"

that just makes me laugh

 

[kgrichwine]

At least its only $10,000 this time.

 

[Twix]

So next they're gonna fine Brad for getting Cuttino off the court.

That's what I'm thinking!!

Kingsgurl...apparently when you are celebrating a victory there is no time limit in which you must get off the floor

Seems like it!!!

BOOOO to the NBA League and Refs!!!!!!

 

[SaCKiNgS24]

why did this come so late?

 

[Ryle]

Whatever happened to the 1st amendment???

Is this a communist country where you can't speak your mind without getting fined???

 

[Bricklayer]

Whatever happened to the 1st amendment???

Is this a communist country where you can't speak your mind without getting fined???

walk into the office and go tell your boss off tommorow, see what happens. Pretty much the same thing. So I guess if that's communist, then yes, we are a communist country.

 

[Zyphen]

Whatever happened to the 1st amendment???

Is this a communist country where you can't speak your mind without getting fined???

Only difference in terms of freedom of speech is you can't slander the government in a communist country. Michael Moore wouldn't have lasted into this century. And c'mon... you're on a closely moderated message board... try making Cuttino-like statements about moderators and see what that gets you.

 

[SaCKiNgS24]

walk into the office and go tell your boss off tommorow, see what happens. Pretty much the same thing. So I guess if that's communist, then yes, we are a communist country.

my boss would give me a raise and a week of paid vacation. TRUE STORY!

 

[Heuge]

Only difference in terms of freedom of speech is you can't slander the government in a communist country. Michael Moore wouldn't have lasted into this century.

And that is a bad thing?!?

 

[VF21]

To get back on topic, this is ludicrous.

But, as has been pointed out, it's a no-win situation for Cat and the rest of the Kings, at least as far as the officials are thinking.

I'm beginning to think the biggest mistake being made ISN'T by the Kings, however. The rest of the league may be chuckling about this, especially one owner in Dallas. BUT this whole episode has pulled the team AND the fans together as I think nothing else could.

Go ahead and laugh now, Mark Cuban, and the rest of you. We'll see who's laughing last.

GO KINGS!!!!!

 

[Heuge]

I'm beginning to think the biggest mistake being made ISN'T by the Kings, however. The rest of the league may be chuckling about this, especially one owner in Dallas. BUT this whole episode has pulled the team AND the fans together as I think nothing else could.

I think you are right on here. It was been said before, this last week should create and us versus the world attitude, which seems to be a really good thing in team sports.

 

[zeke04]

I bet those refs are struggling to come up with thier $100.00 fine.

 

[Variant]

Chump change for Cuttino to come up with, and probably well worth the rant too.

The problem with reffing is that for all intentional purposes they are held unaccountable for their mistakes. Sure, Stern & Co. claim they are reviewed and fined also; but as long as all of those actions are kept secret there is no view among players & fan that justice is ever being served. This leads to frustration building and building up...

My theory is that if the league opened up its officials review process and maybe publicized or even apologized for bad calls (like the NFL does) it would go a long way to reduce the venting that so many have to do in order to keep from eventually going crazy.

 

[Brewer16]

Id love to know how much they fined the asshat refs who blew the call..

 

[quick dog]

I am glad that Cutino Mobley stood up and stated his case against the NBA. He paid for it dearly, but he did it. Now when he is asked about officiating in future media interviews, all he has to say is, "Review the tapes, listen to what I said, and judge for yourself". I am not sure if the NBA's Russian and French Olympic judges will fine him for refering to previous incidents. Of course, there was revisionist history during the Stalin era.

By the way. I worked 20 years for government and 10 years in the private sector. Stuff like the NBA officiating scandal happened in government all the time. It never happened in my business. Reason and reality generally prevail in small efficient businesses. You have to be straight to stay in business very long. Customers and clients know the difference.

 

[NJKingsFan]

To get back on topic, this is ludicrous.

But, as has been pointed out, it's a no-win situation for Cat and the rest of the Kings, at least as far as the officials are thinking.

I'm beginning to think the biggest mistake being made ISN'T by the Kings, however. The rest of the league may be chuckling about this, especially one owner in Dallas. BUT this whole episode has pulled the team AND the fans together as I think nothing else could.

Go ahead and laugh now, Mark Cuban, and the rest of you. We'll see who's laughing last.

GO KINGS!!!!!

I'd like to think it will pull the whole team together, just like I thought the All-Star snubbing would. However, I'd like to see some more effort throughout the game, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I want to see some determination; to actually see the Kings players want to stop giving up free layups and dunks.

Pete Carril may be right when he says he thinks the Kings may only have to have average defense and rebounding to win, but the players needs to exude more effort to even reach those levels.

 

[Zyphen]

And that is a bad thing?!?

Who said it was a good thing? Moore is always a handy example. Just setting the record straight on freedom of speech. It's not as great as it sounds. There's definitely a tradeoff. Also, we have stuff like libel, hate crime legislation, and the patriot act... It's ironic that the only part of freedom of speech that's left which differentiates from communist countries is the part most people won't use anyway. There are better examples of what separates a democracy.

Back to basketball. While I can appreciate Mobley's feelings on this, he's gotta realize that being a martyr really sucks in the end. Even if he does change things for the league as a whole in the long term, the Kings are screwed in the meantime. The refs are people. If you kill the relationship like that, don't expect marginal calls to go in your favor. Sucks but that's how it is. This'll just make things harder for the Kings.

 

[VF21]

Back to basketball. While I can appreciate Mobley's feelings on this, he's gotta realize that being a martyr really sucks in the end. Even if he does change things for the league as a whole in the long term, the Kings are screwed in the meantime. The refs are people. If you kill the relationship like that, don't expect marginal calls to go in your favor. Sucks but that's how it is. This'll just make things harder for the Kings.

I don't see him as a martyr. I see him as exciteable, which is what Webber called him, and passionate. It's not like he's making much ado about nothing.

Bottom line is that I suspect he's been told he's gonna have to tone it down regardless of his feelings and I'm pretty sure he'll toe the line.

As far as making things harder for the Kings, what are the officials going to do? Not call goal-tending? Not call fouls when our players are sent to the floor, apparently because of a temporary fluctuation in the gravitational pull of the earth? Call touch fouls on Brad that other teams giggle at?

Oh wait. They already do all of that.

...

To quote from Risky Business, "Sometimes you just gotta say what the f***."

 

[Padrino]

To quote from Risky Business, "Sometimes you just gotta say what the f***."

hehe....i love that line. one of my mottos. very appropriate for just about any situation in life. also very applicable to the nba these days.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Kids I make a living discussing FOS issues... this is NOT an FOS issue. Cat is a contracted employess with lots of restrictions as to what he can and can't say about the NBA espcialy during game time, on national TV. Now should he be fined for bad mouting the refs probabaly only beceause the fine EVERY palyer/coach that dose it. Should he complain and pay the fine? Probably, it is unreasonable to expect heim to let that no call go. Every half witted expert suggested that Brad should have gone off the glass 2 nights earlier to avoid having his shot bloced since a bank off the galss woulbe "an obvious call" There you have it an obvious call.

As a side note I find it hillarious that peope will waste time and bandwith whining about free speech where it does not apply but so few will actually challange legitamate threats to feedom of speech such as the federal practice to forbid peacefull protests at Preseidential speaking venues and the shamefull attemps to fire college professors for their views.

 

[Zyphen]

I don't see him as a martyr. I see him as exciteable, which is what Webber called him, and passionate. It's not like he's making much ado about nothing.

Bottom line is that I suspect he's been told he's gonna have to tone it down regardless of his feelings and I'm pretty sure he'll toe the line.

As far as making things harder for the Kings, what are the officials going to do? Not call goal-tending? Not call fouls when our players are sent to the floor, apparently because of a temporary fluctuation in the gravitational pull of the earth? Call touch fouls on Brad that other teams giggle at?

Oh wait. They already do all of that.

...

To quote from Risky Business, "Sometimes you just gotta say what the f***."

And they'll keep doing it too as long as the Kings don't have a good relationship with them. You don't get respect from the refs by attacking them publicly. Bring it up at the next Player's union (hahah, still can't believe there's a union) meeting with Stern or write him a letter. I don't think the situation is to the point where it's irreparable and it doesn't matter too much what he says. The refs are in some sense, your boss, when you get on the court. When you have troubles with your boss, you can either shut up and take it or go over their heads.

 

[Folsom Al]

David Stern at His Best ...

That's the NBA Commission for ya .... what a joke

 

[VF21]

The refs are in some sense, your boss, when you get on the court. When you have troubles with your boss, you can either shut up and take it or go over their heads.

The problem is that the officials answer to NO ONE. If anything, that's something the team owners should attempt to address at their annual meeting this summer.

The officiating is getting worse. Officials like Joe Crawford are completely out of control, making it all about THEM and not about the game.

You're saying the Kings and every other team in the league should just sit back and allow their games to be corrupted because of bad calls, non-calls, self-absorbed officials, etc. I'm saying the time to turn the other cheek has past. If some officials are making it personal and taking out their anger on ANY player on the court, then THEY are the ones in the wrong. The officials are there to see that the game is played in accordance with the rules. They are not little gods with ultimate power in their own little universe. At least they shouldn't be. There should be some accountability for unfair officiating AND just plain bad officiating. The league owes it to the players, the teams AND the fans to address this issue.

It's not just about the Kings.

And where's the equality? If Mobley can be fined for verbal abuse of an official, what about the profane-laced comments BY the officials at players? There are comments ON TAPE where various officials say things to players that players would be T'd up in a heartbeat for saying. It should go both ways.

 

[Kingsgurl]

And they'll keep doing it too as long as the Kings don't have a good relationship with them. You don't get respect from the refs by attacking them publicly. Bring it up at the next Player's union (hahah, still can't believe there's a union) meeting with Stern or write him a letter. I don't think the situation is to the point where it's irreparable and it doesn't matter too much what he says. The refs are in some sense, your boss, when you get on the court. When you have troubles with your boss, you can either shut up and take it or go over their heads.

Write him a letter???????? Like
Dr. Mr Stern-
I believe your normally infallable henchme.....er officials may have missed a critical call that cost us the game. Could you please give them a Stern talking to?
Thanks
Your humble servant
Cuttino Mobley

 

[randy anglin]

ditto

i thought that was funny what ED said...cuz he didn't just say "it goes down in the book as a block" he said "it goes down in the book as a GOOD block"

that just makes me laugh

i agree hee hee hee ha...have you ever been so mad that all you can do is smile?