Miller article in Indy Star

VF21 said:
Oh lord give me strength.

Sorry, but if the fan psyche is so blasted fragile that they can't even stand to read an article where one of our players CASUALLY mentions that he might like to return to his home state to finish his career, then they really should find a less stressful sport - perhaps competitive tatting - to follow.

He visited with some friends after the game. It happens after almost every game with one player or another. The only thing different is this time it was after a loss and a writer for the Indy Star happened to be present.

If some fans want to read too much into it, that's up to them I suppose. I'm more interested in how a player performs ON the court. I really don't feel I have to know every single word he exchanges with friends, whether they're on other teams or not. It's not like this is war. It's sports. It's a stupid game. And some people are taking it WAY too seriously. And for me, a fan of 40+ years, to say that, it must be really getting way over the top.

What's next? Monitoring their emails to make sure they don't correspond with upcoming teams and sell game secrets? Bugging their cell-phones so they can't talk to their families and give away "locker room" stuff? Checking their closets to make sure they don't have any "ENEMY" jerseys, shirts, etc. that might expose them for the traitors they are?

Please...

No, he can do whatever he wants to and as a fan it does not matter to me personally what he wants to do. But you act like that this is something fresh and new. We have had this old tired conversation before, because Sacramento suffers from "little town's complex".

WEBBER GOES TO NEW YORK, DETROIT, ETC... But the difference is back then we were winning. Now this team sucks.:mad: YOU JUST GOT SMACKED DOWN, AND GOT TAKEN TO THE WOOD SHED BY INDIANA 15 MINUTES AGO. There is no harm in saying no comment at this time. If Brad Miller wants to finishg his career for the minumum in 2010, i have no problem with that. Hell, if he wants to go now, I will drive him to the airport. But dude has to be more media savvy than that. I am not trying to go George Bush on him....tapping his phone and e mails. I just want you to act like you care like you got beat down that is all.
 
Bricklayer said:
Gotta admit -- after seeing KT take it to him yesterday, not as sold on "Danger" (like that) being a viable "4" except in spots. I always assumed he was a "3", but was thinking maybe channeling a little bit of Harrington would be how he got his minutes. But maybe the only matchup we won all night was Little Kenny inside.

Well that's because he is a 3 who can rebound and block shots. His perimeter defense is really good for a rook, and he's tough as hell.

He plays 4 because Rick Carisle is obsessed with smallball. We've got a shortage of 3s and too many big guys.... and yet he always goes small... Pffft

He's pretty much got the starting SF spot locked down now though IMO. Rick would be insane to make him Al Harrington his way to minutes.
 
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Purple Reign said:
No, he can do whatever he wants to and as a fan it does not matter to me personally what he wants to do. But you act like that this is something fresh and new. We have had this old tired conversation before, because Sacramento suffers from "little town's complex".

WEBBER GOES TO NEW YORK, DETROIT, ETC... But the difference is back then we were winning. Now this team sucks.:mad: YOU JUST GOT SMACKED DOWN, AND GOT TAKEN TO THE WOOD SHED BY INDIANA 15 MINUTES AGO. There is no harm in saying no comment at this time. If Brad Miller wants to finishg his career for the minumum in 2010, i have no problem with that. Hell, if he wants to go now, I will drive him to the airport. But dude has to be more media savvy than that. I am not trying to go George Bush on him....tapping his phone and e mails. I just want you to act like you care like you got beat down that is all.

So you would have preferred for him to beat his chest, go outside and whip himself bloody? Or go into the Pacer locker room and cry about how badly his team had performed? This is basketball, not Shakespearean Theatre.

He didn't call a press conference and make a point to talk to Monteith. He was visiting with his friends right before they had to leave and he (Miller) had to get ready to go to Memphis. He made some totally non-committal comments about perhaps ending his career in Indiana. There's NOTHING more to it.

I fail to see what Sacramento's alleged "small town complex" has to do with a blasted thing.
 
Indeed, Soup. He's primarily going to be a 3, who can play the 4 or 2 if needed.

He was good last night vs. the Lakers, shame that putback rolled out though.

I've really liked what I've seen so far, and am intrigued to see more of him.
 
VF21 said:
So you would have preferred for him to beat his chest, go outside and whip himself bloody? Or go into the Pacer locker room and cry about how badly his team had performed? This is basketball, not Shakespearean Theatre.

He didn't call a press conference and make a point to talk to Monteith. He was visiting with his friends right before they had to leave and he (Miller) had to get ready to go to Memphis. He made some totally non-committal comments about perhaps ending his career in Indiana. There's NOTHING more to it.

I fail to see what Sacramento's alleged "small town complex" has to do with a blasted thing.

No just act like you care that's all.

I love you VF21, but please tone down your adjectives please. I am just trying to have a conversation. MY FEELINGS ARE HURT!!!:( Like a child being scolded by his grandmother. But I will try very hard not to be so sensitive as well.:D You win, you win, you win, I give up.
 
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I'm sorry.

I do see where you're coming from. I guess I'm trying too hard to protect Brad, because I really think too much is being made about this. I'll try to pull in the claws just a bit...

;)
 
I'll admit he said this with extremely bad timing, but I think it's unfair to be angry with someone who just wants to return to his hometown. I'm sure he has nothing against Sac.
 
According to the article, Brad was in the Pacers locker room before most of them were out of the shower.

That's not where I want my "core player" to be - not now. Brad should have a few things to take care of in his own locker room before he worries about chumming with the enemy.

Besides he has sucked on the floor defensively this year really bad - worse than ever.

Brad's team is in crisis. Arco is burning. Brad is fiddling. I want a new core.
 
Sirius said:
I'll admit he said this with extremely bad timing, but I think it's unfair to be angry with someone who just wants to return to his hometown. I'm sure he has nothing against Sac.

agreed. Brad has either had his comment "spun" or he has made some pretty stupid freakin' comments this season.
 
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I equate this article with Matt Barnes saying he wanted to remain with the Kings-Brad is from Indiana so why not want to play for his "hometown" team.
 
natedizzle said:
I equate this article with Matt Barnes saying he wanted to remain with the Kings-Brad is from Indiana so why not want to play for his "hometown" team.
Only difference is Barnes was on the Kings saying he wanted to stay while Brad is on the Kings saying he'd like to end up in Indy. I don't care that he said it at all, just wrong timing.
 
natedizzle said:
I equate this article with Matt Barnes saying he wanted to remain with the Kings-Brad is from Indiana so why not want to play for his "hometown" team.

Difference being he is going to be a King for the next, what 4 years, at a very hefty cost. I don't know what the context of his statement is, but I can definately see how making that statement could be seen as negative to us. It makes it appear as if his loyalties lie elsewhere, especially considering the current circumstances this team is in.
 
BMiller52 said:
Thanks... I don't know. Everything just fell apart, Vlade left for LA, we traded DC and Chris and Bobby aka the heart and soul of the team, peja demanded a trade and it doesn't seem as though he wants to be here, now brad says he'd basically rather be in indiana, the heart and soul of this team is 100% gone. It's like they don't even play, they just go out to collect their checks. It's just not fair...
Thats 100% true, all they play for is cash i mean where is the heart???? Where is the will to win?????? I mean as much as i hate the LAkers i gotta give it to them, they have the will to win and thats why they have a better record than us:( :( :( :(
 
kingsfan916 said:
Thats 100% true, all they play for is cash i mean where is the heart???? Where is the will to win?????? I mean as much as i hate the LAkers i gotta give it to them, they have the will to win and thats why they have a better record than us:( :( :( :(
Using the Lakers is a pretty poor example. Kobe is the only one with the will to win. Why not give some props to a team with a good record like hmmm....................the Pistons.
 
kingsfan916 said:
Thats 100% true, all they play for is cash i mean where is the heart???? Where is the will to win?????? I mean as much as i hate the LAkers i gotta give it to them, they have the will to win and thats why they have a better record than us:( :( :( :(

Where's the heart? Where's the will to win?

Where's the team leader? Where's the unending and loyal support of the fans?

I may have a lot of trouble feeling real good about the team right now, but these blanket statements are just without any substance to them.
 
SacTownKid said:
Difference being he is going to be a King for the next, what 4 years, at a very hefty cost. I don't know what the context of his statement is, but I can definately see how making that statement could be seen as negative to us. It makes it appear as if his loyalties lie elsewhere, especially considering the current circumstances this team is in.

Granted it wasn't the smartest thing to say. Miller's biggest problem apparently is that he suffers from Webber syndrome. He seems to feel that if someone asks him a question, he should answer it.

Considering Monteith is a lot like Voisin, one might want to take into account the possibility the whole article is about as relevant as some of the tripe Voisin has written about our guys.
 
Miller's statements=Bad Timing



It is no more than that. If the Kings had a winning record right now, we would all be like, "yeah Brad, we understand and we think thats cool you want to go back to retire a Pacer. We will miss you when you leave"
 
VF21 said:
Granted it wasn't the smartest thing to say. Miller's biggest problem apparently is that he suffers from Webber syndrome. He seems to feel that if someone asks him a question, he should answer it.

Considering Monteith is a lot like Voisin, one might want to take into account the possibility the whole article is about as relevant as some of the tripe Voisin has written about our guys.

monteith is nothing like voisin....its kravitz that is like voisin...

that being said...as i mentioned in the beginning....theres nothing too significant here....brad has made it a point, since joining the pacers way back when, that he never wanted to leave....

yet he left for more money....if he wanted to stay so badly, he couldve:for significantly less money....

now i have no problem with him for taking the big dough....however i do think him giving the impression that he wished he wouldve done things differently-which could be speculated from this article-is a bit much, especially given his teams current situation...

if u take the money and run-which brad basically did-its a bit unfair to those that basically give it to u-the kings in this instance-to seem homesick...he knew what he was doing when he did it...

now...was monteith trying to spin this?? possibly a bit-if only to make some of those loyal brad supporters feel a bit better about things....but at the same time monteith is pretty solid-and i think the story he really was trying to portray was one that isnt seen in sports much-the real homegrown family side of things....now in an indirect way he did just the opposite...he basically says guys will give all that up for huge money...so go figure....

in the end, i really dont think brad meant much by it....and i dont think monteith had any ill will at all...remember it wasnt written for a kings audience....

hey, like it or not...people get homesick....especially when things arent going well in their adopted home-especially to someone who loves home as much as brad does...and theres few that love home as much as brad likes home-and i think that was really the story monteith was trying to convey...
 
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