Mike Malone ... Nuggets Coach

[Spike]

Or they have a better sense of what to do with those people. If PDA is left to crunch numbers in a closet, and Malone is left to coach, all will be OK. The only time those two should see each other should be at the company picnic.

 

[carmichaeldave]

No I know he wouldn't he actually come back. But that line was tweeted out by Carmichael Dave or bruski or someone recently.

Still the way it was painted by some Malone wouldn't even p on Pete if he was on fire. So it's surprising they'll be in the same building again.

It was me. And it was and still is true.

Don't let the narrative change. You guys know I'm not huge on destroying Pete, but I know for an undeniable absolute fact that's how Malone felt.

So if he took the job, he was assured that their relationship wouldn't be that of an influential basketball decision nature.

 

[ockingsfan]

It was me. And it was and still is true.

Don't let the narrative change. You guys know I'm not huge on destroying Pete, but I know for an undeniable absolute fact that's how Malone felt.

So if he took the job, he was assured that their relationship wouldn't be that of an influential basketball decision nature.

Hi Carmichael Dave,

Thanks for clarifying.

While we have your attention, does this Malone hiring and PDA leaving to Denver change your stance on Mudiay?

Any chance Mudiay is the pick (if WCS is off the board) for the Kings, if Malone wants to keep Lawson in Denver (since Malone liked IT so much).

Do you think Malone in Denver will effect how the Kings will approach the off-season, i.e. trades and/or draft?

 

[ninjabiscuit]

Hey Dave, following your Twitter account...do you think Malone and friends try and figure out a way to get DMC? He was obviously Cuz's favorite NBA coach of...well, ever.

 

[ockingsfan]

Hey Dave, following your Twitter account...do you think Malone and friends try and figure out a way to get DMC? He was obviously Cuz's favorite NBA coach of...well, ever.

It take two to tango.

And if Vlade doesn't want to trade DMC, DMC is not going anywhere, for the next few years at least.

That would break tampering rules.

 

[Hadlowe]

It was me. And it was and still is true.

Don't let the narrative change. You guys know I'm not huge on destroying Pete, but I know for an undeniable absolute fact that's how Malone felt.

So if he took the job, he was assured that their relationship wouldn't be that of an influential basketball decision nature.

That's interesting. I can't imagine that hiring two key people who dislike each other so much lending itself to a stable front office.

 

[ninjabiscuit]

DMC just tweeted "Can't keep a good man down."

 

[ninjabiscuit]

It take two to tango.

And if Vlade doesn't want to trade DMC, DMC is not going anywhere, for the next few years at least.

That would break tampering rules.

I'm not well versed on player contract strategy. Is there no way DMC could force his way out of town if he wanted to? I was under the impression that players have done that in the past. (I'm not saying that I think he wants to...just asking if it's possible.)

 

[ockingsfan]

I'm not well versed on player contract strategy. Is there no way DMC could force his way out of town if he wanted to? I was under the impression that players have done that in the past. (I'm not saying that I think he wants to...just asking if it's possible.)

A player can always request a trade, but the team is under no obligation to trade him. Now, when DMC is one year away from free agency, he will have a lot more leverage in forcing a trade. But until then, Kings have control over where he plays.

Also, other teams executive and coaches can not approach our players about requesting a trade. That is tampering and strictly forbidden by NBA by laws.

 

[ninjabiscuit]

A player can always request a trade, but the team is under no obligation to trade him. Now, when DMC is one year away from free agency, he will have a lot more leverage in forcing a trade. But until then, Kings have control over where he plays.

Also, other teams executive and coaches can not approach our players about requesting a trade. That is tampering and strictly forbidden by NBA by laws.

Thanks. Always wondered what actual power the player had in that situation.

 

[PurpleHaze]

I hardly ever listen to Napear's radio show but driving around bit today just after 3PM he was viciously dumping on PDA - of course deserved. Called him a liar or words to that effect over and over. Probably still savaging him right now since still has over two hours to go on afternoon show.

 

[Padrino]

it's certainly an interesting gig for mike malone to land. i'd be wary of his ability to succeed as head coach for a franchise that is notoriously flippant about defense, but for 24 games during the 2014-2015 season, malone proved that he could take a mismatched sacramento kings roster with limited defensive potential and turn it into a team that gave 100% effort on that side of the ball on any given night. perhaps he can do the same for the nuggets...

 

[hrdboild]

"We're looking for a coach that understands how we've been successful in the past and how we'll be successful in the future, with fast basketball and playing with pace," Connelly said in April.

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Ummm... should we tell them?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Eh, I don't think that it's fair to say that Malone can't coach an uptempo style; it hasn't actually been proven that he can't. A big part of the problem he had here was that management wanted to run an uptempo style, but management failed to realize that they didn't actually acquire uptempo players. Malone took a good look at the hand he was dealt, and said, "Hey, man, that uptempo thing you want me to do? I can't do that with these guys, but I can make this other thing work!"

The Nuggets, unlike the Kings, are entirely suited to playing uptempo; we shall see whether or not Malone can make it work.

 

[hrdboild]

Eh, I don't think that it's fair to say that Malone can't coach an uptempo style; it hasn't actually been proven that he can't. A big part of the problem he had here was that management wanted to run an uptempo style, but management failed to realize that they didn't actually acquire uptempo players. Malone took a good look at the hand he was dealt, and said, "Hey, man, that uptempo thing you want me to do? I can't do that with these guys, but I can make this other thing work!"

The Nuggets, unlike the Kings, are entirely suited to playing uptempo; we shall see whether or not Malone can make it work.

That's one interpretation. I see this as management once again entering the relationship with a preconceived notion of what winning basketball is. And I don't see that as a good thing for Malone's future there. Then again, most front office execs know enough not to mess with a team that actually is winning, regardless of style, right?

 

[kingsboi]

so what this hire tells me is that Pete might of not been in favor of firing Malone after all and that it was strictly Vivek and/or Mullin. Denver needs to trade some players because I don't see Malone implementing a run and gun type offense in the mile high city.

 

[rainmaker]

Drop all the drama and how poorly Malone was handled (Malone was disrespected).... in the end....WE HAVE A BETTER COACH BY FAR.... Malone will be forgotten all together in 20 years... Karl will be a HOF coach and never forgotten.... simple as that ....

Karl is WAAAAY better.... and WE ARE WAAAAAY better off with him..... Mike is a great guy and I wish him the best. I'm sure he will be good... I just don't expect greatness from him... He's very limited in creativity.

That's quite debAAAAAAAAtable.

He may have very little power now, but rest assured he's going to do everything he can to get power. And then...?

There's a lot of wilderness out there in Colo in which one can get lost.....

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

That's one interpretation. I see this as management once again entering the relationship with a preconceived notion of what winning basketball is. And I don't see that as a good thing for Malone's future there.

Those two notions are not exclusive, though. I tend to be of the opinion that Malone is, indeed, once again going to a team where management has a preconceived notion of what winning basketball is... AND that he's a good enough coach to run an uptempo style, if he actually has uptempo players.

 

[flamecrow]

So....should we hold our breath, for when DMC moves to Nuggets too?

 

[sactownfan]

That's quite debAAAAAAAAtable.

What is there to debate? Malone is a good guy sure....but he's basically a nobody and now with a nobody roster. He's the defensive equal to what Marc Jackson was on offense. A players coach who can't actually do the X's and O's himself and has no creativity.... He's a good affordable stop gap that gets guys to play with a little more hustle nothing more.

Karls name as its been repeated numerously on here and everywhere else in the basketball world....is a HALL OF FAME COACH... there is nothing to debate.... you don't "ACCIDENTALLY" become a HALL OF FAME COACH.... Its like saying Michael Jordan "accidentally became the greatest" .... and its debatable that Jimmer could be better than MJ... because Jimmer is still playing and still has time to win 6+ rings... LOL! Karl has taken young stuggling franchises and turned them into power house playoff teams... thats what he does... ITS A PROVEN AND TESTED FACT...

You can Love Mike Malone all you want Rainmaker.... but don't try to compare proven winners to the coaching equivalent of Jimmer...

consider this debate over... (mic drop)

 

[sactownfan]

One last thing Mike Malone is totally a great guy again.... hands down great guy... who didn't deserve to be treated the way he was.... and for that Pete is gone too. Thank the lord. Pete was a punk...

BUT

Mike Malone has all kinds of flaws as a head coach... He was a terrible offensive mind... enough time has passed as well as all the new drama has apparently made us forget just how awful the offense was... we were god awful on set plays at all times in the game (A indicatior of how talented a coach is) Then it was the millions of Rudy Gay ISO's at the buzzer (game or quarters) to the Cousins ISO"s that WAS Malone's offense....

To sum up Mike Malones not being the right fit with this team... I'd point to just one moment all year that says it all.... The game we had a legit shot for either overtime or to win... and Mike Malone RAN A PLAY FOR STAUSKAS who had been awful all year and even that game... that was unacceptable...and I can promise you that you all will never have to relive that nonsense ever again with Karl as the coach... again HOF vs a coaching stop gap.

 

[dude12]

Coach Malone is such a nobody that he got hired again.

 

[KingsCitizen]

Maybe this is just a conspiracy and all of a sudden Denver will start shipping all their good players to Sac in no time.
That would include a Nurkic for DMC trade, by the way. LOL

Gratz Mike and Pete and know you guys are happy now in Denver. You've done well to confuse the media what really happened in SacTown. Hahaha!

 

[Bricklayer]

Mike Malone in a season+ did exactly what you want a young coach to do. Came into an impossible situation, got them playing together, turned the corner early in the 2nd season. Its a promising start to a coaching career.

George Karl by the way posted losing records in 3 of his first 4 years in the league, and had a .403 win% after getting fried for the second time after his Golden State stint.

 

[ockingsfan]

This means the Kings are off the hook for the remainder of Mike Malones coaching contract, correct?

I would think that now that Malone has a new coaching gig, his King's contract would let the Kings off the hook for the remainder of the money they owed him.

More money for the Kings to use on assistant coaches and scouting.

 

[c-webb1s#1]

So....should we hold our breath, for when DMC moves to Nuggets too?

Well if we dont dramatically improve this coming season I would wager he is going to be looking to move somewhere else. If Denver does not dramatically improve by the time that is a possibility I honestly couldnt see him leaving one hopeless franchise for another just because he really got along with Malone.

But then again I could be completely wrong

It just doesnt make sense in my mind why Malone would want to go anywhere near PDA and have a Sac 2.0 situation on his hands. Denver has for the longest time been a running team so I guess we will see next season what team he is going to try and make them become.

 

[sactownfan]

Coach Malone is such a nobody that he got hired again.

he is a great stop gap... the nobody was in regards to Karls resume. Karl is a legend. Malone is an afterthought.... For the situation Denver has right now which looks to be with a rebuild and history repeating itself with the Hiring of Pete D and then Malone... its a good fit for Malone right now... But I honestly don't think he will remain head coaching material after this stop. Defensive specialist and lead assistant maybe but he's way to limited offensively and his lead decision making was highly questionable.

 

[Bricklayer]

he is a great stop gap... the nobody was in regards to Karls resume. Karl is a legend. Malone is an afterthought.... For the situation Denver has right now which looks to be with a rebuild and history repeating itself with the Hiring of Pete D and then Malone... its a good fit for Malone right now... But I honestly don't think he will remain head coaching material after this stop. Defensive specialist and lead assistant maybe but he's way to limited offensively and his lead decision making was highly questionable.

Karl was a nobody at the same age. And there is a good chance Mike Malone has more wins left in him in this league than George Karl does.

 

[King Baller]

I just have a feeling Colorado will get too small for both PDA and Malone. In this case I give the edge to Malone surviving. I think this is because Malone takes the roster they have and finds success. PDA you better keep the lines open on the St Johns AD job

 

[KingMilz]

Denver actually has talent it's all about health and desire with those guys , if Nurkic can have a break out season they could be a up and coming team, gratz to Mike the dude never deserved to lose his job and I will be watching Denver since aside from the Iverson days I always had a soft spot for them.

I just hope for Mike he does not make the same mistake Shaw made and that's try to be a half court team with the personal they currently have (this off course could change with the development of Nurk/trades).