Mike Bibby
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Bench
Here's the thing, punisher: There were five guys on the court at all times in yellow jerseys (yecch) trying to STOP Mike from getting assists, points, rebounds. And he did it anyway.
It's totally legit, it's not like he pulled a Ricky Davis shooting at his own basket. I'd fully expect his teammates to help him out if he only needed a board or two, as long as it wasn't putting the game in jeopardy.
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It's totally legit, it's not like he pulled a Ricky Davis shooting at his own basket. I'd fully expect his teammates to help him out if he only needed a board or two, as long as it wasn't putting the game in jeopardy.
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punisher said:
Excuse me?
Discuss what in a reasonable fashion? Some comments made simply to stir the pot IMHO?
Enjoy yourself. I'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't even watch the games and bases his opinion of stat lines on sports boards. IF you had seen the game your comments might have merit. But, since you didn't, there are simply some things you cannot comment upon with any real degree of credibility and this is one of them. Bibby was not handed the triple-double. He earned it and his team-mates helped him earn it. That's what TEAM means.
But feel free to continue to harp about it. I'm going to continue to be happy for Mike AND for the Kings. It was a great performance in the middle of a great game.
geez,
discuss why is a TD such an important thing to go out and finish the game thinking about it, got it now ?
but as I said in my first post on the topic, I kind of knew this was gonna get "lost in translation"...
i haven't seen the game, and i was quite "honest" from the start about it, don't see no reason not to be, so if it's easier for you to have an angle here, that's fine...but do you really think i had to watch the game not to see from the recap Bibby had a great night, and also that his teammates set him up with those final numbers, geez, ESPN put it in it's teaser, could say it was that obvious...
discuss why is a TD such an important thing to go out and finish the game thinking about it, got it now ?
but as I said in my first post on the topic, I kind of knew this was gonna get "lost in translation"...
i haven't seen the game, and i was quite "honest" from the start about it, don't see no reason not to be, so if it's easier for you to have an angle here, that's fine...but do you really think i had to watch the game not to see from the recap Bibby had a great night, and also that his teammates set him up with those final numbers, geez, ESPN put it in it's teaser, could say it was that obvious...
albeitrue
Bench
Your point was well taken and I understood it, and I respect you for raising it.punisher said:
I love the underdog. I totally understand where you are coming from, and why the triple-double is slightly diminished in your mind. Frankly, I feel the same way...but it's not MY T.D. If the game had been close (as has been stated already), I could see why there would be an issue. But clearly there was opportunity, because it was a blowout game, for the rest of the team to think about rallying around Bibby in order to assist him in accomplishing that stat. Sure, there was risk involved, but players stay on the court past their usefulness OFTEN to pad/accomplish their own stats, without anyone elses help. This is really no different, in my mind.
GoGoGadget said:
punisher - Sorry if I came across too strongly. I tend to get rather protective about our Kings. I'm really pretty harmless, though. 
The point I was really trying to make was that in watching the entire game closely (something I have to do to type the PBP) it was obvious the team wasn't just handing Mike anything. In fact, people at Arco didn't even realize he was close to a TD until he got the final rebound and the bench went nuts. I have seen other games where it was obvious that a team was going to do everything they could to help their guy get his TD, or massive points, etc. This game wasn't that way. The TD came within the flow of the game - not outside or in spite of it.
None of the TNT crew mentioned anything of that sort, and Bill Walton wouldn't have missed an opportunity to pontificate if he thought the team had made it too easy for MB to get the triple.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and I shouldn't berate you because yours disagrees with mine. I do think, however, if you'd actually been able to see the game you might have felt differently.
Just my three cents...after the apology for biting your head off.
GO KINGS!!!!!
The point I was really trying to make was that in watching the entire game closely (something I have to do to type the PBP) it was obvious the team wasn't just handing Mike anything. In fact, people at Arco didn't even realize he was close to a TD until he got the final rebound and the bench went nuts. I have seen other games where it was obvious that a team was going to do everything they could to help their guy get his TD, or massive points, etc. This game wasn't that way. The TD came within the flow of the game - not outside or in spite of it.
None of the TNT crew mentioned anything of that sort, and Bill Walton wouldn't have missed an opportunity to pontificate if he thought the team had made it too easy for MB to get the triple.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and I shouldn't berate you because yours disagrees with mine. I do think, however, if you'd actually been able to see the game you might have felt differently.
Just my three cents...after the apology for biting your head off.
GO KINGS!!!!!
albeitrue
Bench
I was at the game, and my friend and I actually looked at each other in disbelief when Ostertag fired that shot from the top of the key, we had NO IDEA what was going on.
I, of course, was being critical of Adelman (a tiny bad habit of mine) for risking starters during garbagetime...
I, of course, was being critical of Adelman (a tiny bad habit of mine) for risking starters during garbagetime...
BBallGrl15
G-League
This was actually the first game I got to watch in a long time. No LP this year boo hoo. Anyways, I watched the whole game and did not know that Mike had a triple double until the last rebound. I thought it was strange at first when the whole bench jumped up when he grabbed the rebound because I wasn't aware of his stats. Then the announcers mentioned it and I was like oh, good for him.
I too do think that you had to see the game to see that his triple double was earned. True you can go off the stats to see he had a good game but to actually see it would have been better. So I've watched the game at least 3 or 4 times since Thurs. becuz I have no life and one thing I noticed was that Mike was going after the boards the whole game. It seemed like almost every possession that he didn't shoot and almost every Cleveland possession he was under the basket. It is obvious later in the fourth that he really needed the last one cuz he was trying so hard to get it. I don't see the problem with his teammates boxing out and letting him run up for the board.
Mike was close to a TD earlier in the season during a closer game but didn't get it. He was one assist away. So I think it's cool that his teammates helped him get this one. The only reason most people know that they helped was beacuse they were vocal about it. Had they not been, I would not have known and neither would have most people. But once they said they helped, you can go back and watch it again and say now I get it. It all makes sense. Either way, I'm just happy for Bibby and the win.
I too do think that you had to see the game to see that his triple double was earned. True you can go off the stats to see he had a good game but to actually see it would have been better. So I've watched the game at least 3 or 4 times since Thurs. becuz I have no life and one thing I noticed was that Mike was going after the boards the whole game. It seemed like almost every possession that he didn't shoot and almost every Cleveland possession he was under the basket. It is obvious later in the fourth that he really needed the last one cuz he was trying so hard to get it. I don't see the problem with his teammates boxing out and letting him run up for the board.
Mike was close to a TD earlier in the season during a closer game but didn't get it. He was one assist away. So I think it's cool that his teammates helped him get this one. The only reason most people know that they helped was beacuse they were vocal about it. Had they not been, I would not have known and neither would have most people. But once they said they helped, you can go back and watch it again and say now I get it. It all makes sense. Either way, I'm just happy for Bibby and the win.
GoGoGadget
All-Star
albeitrue said:
Mike was already out of the game when Ostertag took that shot, for the record.
