Martin Rated 20th Best Shooting Guard

[Bricklayer]

Stein was kind enough to rank us 21 out 30 teams on ESPN. The Lakers (brace yourselves) are 12 and the Warriors are right behind them at 13 (this is where i couldnt stop laughing). The Hornets are in the top 10 while Chicago is 6. Chicago i can understand (they still have to play a game though so im not conbinced) but the rest is a mystery to me...

His Top 10 was a reasonable (although not necessarily accurate) guess -- Rockets, Hornets and Clippers are three of my most likely West playoff teams too. But we should have been up closer to 15 than 21 I think. Maybe switch us and the Warriors and its closer to accurate. Think he had his reasoning right, but got the results wrong. If we finish 21st or so, most everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.

In any case, going to be a wild parity year though -- EVERYBODY has arguments why they make the playoffs this time around, but only half do.

P.S. Not sure what is the matter with the Lakers at #12. 45 win team last year, got better in the offseason, 12-15 seems about right.

 

[SacTownKid]

Stein is on Nellies nards. Nothing new to that story. After the first Warriors win this season he'll find a way to justify them as championship contenders.

On the other hand he is always negative about the Kings.

 

[moradi420]

not sure what they are going by but Martin will easily put up more ppg than Mobley, Hughes, Peterson, Stackhouse, Battier, and Iggy, and getting about the same amount as Bonzi, Gordon, Manu, Rip, and Wally and could beat Joe Johnson if Joe wasn't the only proven scorer on the that team.

i think all this is wrong, martin wont score more than larry hughes, unless hughes goes down. he also wouldnt score more than joe johnson even if joe was on the third scorer on his team.
i hope hes this good in the future, but hes not nearly that good now, nor is he as good or as proven as igoudal;ia

 

[vladetomiller]

That list is pathetic, shows the dearth of talent in the SG spot. After Kobe and wade there are about 5 players whom you can toss around to any spot and after 10 its all even. Raja Bell got into that spot just because of that one game and one incident, even for his supposed defense Iggy is much better than him.

 

[Entity]

i think all this is wrong, martin wont score more than larry hughes, unless hughes goes down. he also wouldnt score more than joe johnson even if joe was on the third scorer on his team.
i hope hes this good in the future, but hes not nearly that good now, nor is he as good or as proven as igoudal;ia

as i said plainly (I thought) going just by scoring. Martin averaged 15 points a game as a starter and was only getting 30 min or so in those games. He was the 5th option when starting last season and Muss has asked him to be more aggresive. So yes Martin IS going to average at least 15pts a game.

 

[Bricklayer]

as i said plainly (I thought) going just by scoring. Martin averaged 15 points a game as a starter and was only getting 30 min or so in those games. He was the 5th option when starting last season and Muss has asked him to be more aggresive. So yes Martin IS going to average at least 15pts a game.

Kevin averaged 33.8min as a starter and 13.7pts. If all of his backups prove incompetent, he MIGHT average 3-4min more tops. If they prove competent, he might average even less.

And at no point was he a 5th option, amongst the starters at least, since he did not begin starting until Kenny was inserted into the starting lineup in place of SAR. And with Peja in and out of the lineup, kevin actually ended up starting alongside Cisco on a numebr of occassions too, when he would have been no worse than the #3 option (assuming our passive center counts as a #2).

Kevin's best chance at racking up more shots/points in another overstuffed shot-munching Bibby/Artest/SAR/Miller lineup is to be the primary beneficiary of an uptempo attack and pick up cheapies on the break with his speed. Neither Miller, Artest, nor SAR are open court players, so Kevin should be the guy out there finishing, assuming we do in fact try to run with a crew not really built for it.

 

[Entity]

so Kevin is going to be like Doug was in the open court, but yet have more of a scoring role on offense than doug did as doug was mostly the set up man. Your probably right Brick but come to think of it 13 points isn't that bad considering the others get somewhere close to there career averages say

Bibby 19
Kevin 13
Ron 17
SAR 16
Brad 15

of course that is averge not everynight as i am sure they will have their night were they score in the 20's But in all seriousness i feel Kevin is going to hit that 13 no problem but, the sky is the limit to what he actually gets he could in fact hit an average of 16-18 if he indeed has improved as much this year as he did last year. Its hard to hide my excitement about this as the unkonwns in which you are unsure of are the same unkonwns that make me excited.