Marcos Breton: What’s wrong with the Kings? Start at the top

Here's your first problem. You make too much sense! Stop it! Your second problem, related to the first, is that your being objective, and looking at the big picture, instead of the now. To most fans, it's the now that matters. Always try and remember that we live in an instant gratification society. Tomorrow is for old people and I'm never getting old. OK, I exaggerate a bit, but I agree with a lot of what you have to say. Especially your analysis, if not your conclusions.

I think I've rewatched more Kings games this season than any other. Despite that, I've found it very difficult to nail down what's wrong to a just a couple of things. Oh I can come up with generalizations. Such as, our three point defense is terrible. That's a given, but when you watch a game and try to figure out why, you come away frustrated, because there's a multitude of reasons. My general conclusion is that this team is totally screwed up. There are players that play well, maybe better than well on both ends of the floor, and then they come back a game later, and play as though they're in highschool. Is that totally on the coach? Well, they do say the buck stops here.

If it were just that simple. Yeah, I know, Mike Malone would have won a championship if given the chance to continue. Hey, maybe, who the hell knows. But I doubt it. If we were to throw away the first eight games of this season, or only rely on our record in January, Karl wouldn't look so bad either. Actually, when you think about it, Karl has had an uphill battle from the get go. Cousins loved playing for Malone. At least up until Malone was fired. But he had to be brought screaming and yelling to play for Karl. Not a good way to start a season. I actually thought it might work, but I think it's clear that it won't. So it would appear that at some point, Karl will be gone. But, does that mean championship here we come?

Here is the question that everyone should be asking themselves. When you look at the current roster, and take into consideration of each players ability, do you see a championship team? Not today, but in the future, and if not, what would have to be done to make it so? The premise has been that if we just put the right players around Cousins, we'll be a contender for a championship. OK, who are those players, and how do we acquire them? Malone aside, who is the coach that will lead us to the promised land? Instead of being negative to everything Kings related, tell me how to fix it. I can howl at the moon all night, and the next night, it's still there.

Now this is just my opinion, so its worth what you paid for it. But I think this team is so far away from a championship with it's current roster that god wouldn't attempt to coach it. And if I'm right, then how do you fix it, and please don't tell me to trade McLemore for and all star SG. Unless you find a drunk GM sitting on the steps outside a casino in Las Vegas, your not going to get something for nothing. At the moment, we have no draft picks, and we have very few assets. And the assets we do have, no one wants to trade. According to the rumor mills, the players the Kings have that have been brought up in trade inquiry's, are Collison, Gay, McLemore, and Cousins. Makes sense, no?

As much as I hate to say this, it might be time to move in another direction. I think Vivek's biggest mistake, and he's made many, but his latest mistake was that he wanted Vlade to make the team into a playoff team going into the new arena. Unless your real lucky, shortcuts never work in life, and in the NBA trying to shortcut your way to the top can be fatal, and set your team back years. So our only two options at this point are, stay with the status quo, and try to add a piece or two as money and luck allow, or blow up the team and start in a new direction. I will admit, that despite my age, I'm leaning hard toward the latter. And I think either option could be sold to the public going into the new arena.

I'm not going to go into why I feel the way I do because then this post would be five or six pages long, and I'm sure many of you wouldn't agree with me anyway. I'll sum it up this way, and let you fill in the blank areas. Everything that's thought about or written about relating to this team, both positive and negative revolves around one person. DeMarcus Cousins! Whether the coach is the right coach or not, depends on whether Cousins likes the coach. Whether we resign Rondo or not, maybe depends on how it will affect Cousins. Whether we trade Gay or not, depends on how it might affect Cousins. We won't sell the "Year of the Monkey" t-shirts in the Kings store, because Cousins found that a tradition that goes back 5000 years is now suddenly racist. The inmates are running the asylum folks, and that always leads to chaos. Strangely enough, I don't blame Cousins. Don't get me wrong, he has some immature issues that need changing. But I blame Vivek for letting it get this far. Unfortunately, I think it's too late to turn it around.


Where this team can be special with their existing pieces is Willie and Boogie as frontline duo. No team can match these guys in terms of size and skill and mobility. No team! Especially when Willie makes his rookie to second year leap. This is the edge that we have that we can exploit and the source of light amidst the darkness.

Then there are pieces: Omri and Darren definitely. I think Rondo is a piece too at the right cost. I don't think he is going to command a lot on the open market so odds are pretty good we retain him regardless how the year plays out.

I go back and forth on Ben. He's an old 22. But he came into the league as a young 19, more immature physically and mentally than an average 19 year old. He's worth more to us as an investment that can hopefully pay dividends than as trade chip so I think I would keep him.

I have turned a bit on Rudy because I don't like where his head is at a lot of the game. He mentally drifts is less of a leader than Boogie and that's pretty bad. He can't defend on the interior or the exterior and so that leaves him no places left to defend.

But you look at Rudy as an athlete and you say "why not"? The tool are there. Well if he has not used the tools he has to defend and play smart by now what hope do we have he will? He's another guy like Rondo who cannot ever seem to stay in front of his man.

Koufos is good to have around (though his flip shots can be maddening). Karl is keeping the head coach seat warm for his future replacement. Vlade needs a home run trade with Rudy and Marco (and possibly Koufos) as bait.

This is about where we are. Willie and Omri and Rondo have exceeded pre-season expectations. Karl and Marco have dramatically underperformed. Everyone has their opinion on Boogie. Even though he is in Toronto this weekend I think he has underperformed. We needed three months of excellence out of him. Not three weeks.
 
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Where this team can be special with their existing pieces is Willie and Boogie as frontline duo. No team can match these guys in terms of size and skill and mobility. No team! Especially when Willie makes his rookie to second year leap. This is the edge that we have that we can exploit and the source of light amidst the darkness.

Then there are pieces: Omri and Darren definitely. I think Rondo is a piece too at the right cost. I don't think he is going to command a lot on the open market so odds are pretty good we retain him regardless how the year plays out.

I go back and forth on Ben. He's an old 22. But he came into the league as a young 19, more immature physically and mentally than an average 19 year old. He's worth more to us as an investment that can hopefully pay dividends than as trade chip so I think I would keep him.

I have turned a bit on Rudy because I don't like where his head is at a lot of the game. He mentally drifts is less of a leader than Boogie and that's pretty bad. He can't defend on the interior or the exterior and so that leaves him no places left to defend.

But you look at Rudy as an athlete and you say "why not"? The tool are there. Well if he has not used the tools he has to defend and play smart by now what hope do we have he will? He's another guy like Rondo who cannot ever seem to stay in front of his man.

Koufos is good to have around (though his flip shots can be maddening). Karl is keeping the head coach seat warm for his future replacement. Vlade needs a home run trade with Rudy and Marco (and possibly Koufos) as bait.

This is about where we are. Willie and Omri and Rondo have exceeded pre-season expectations. Karl and Marco have dramatically underperformed. Everyone has their opinion on Boogie. Even though he is in Toronto this weekend I think he has underperformed. We needed three months of excellence out of him. Not three weeks.

I agree with your point about Willie and Cuz, but only with a coach that will use them properly. I'm sure Willie will come into next season stronger, and more skilled overall. Collison, despite being a black hole on occasion, has been one of the few consistent players on the team, and if Rondo were to seek greener pastures during the offseason, I could certainly live with Collison as my starting PG.

Casspi is what he is. A very consistent compliment to other good players. What he isn't, is someone you can throw out there with lesser talented players, and expect him to carry the team. Koufos is a solid backup center who can give you a little offense at times, and defend the post. So I agree with you on who the core players are, and like you, I didn't automatically include Gay in that group. Although I could.

Gay is one of those players that falls under the great game/poor game label. He's been inconsistent with his effort all year long, at times as though he's day dreaming. I think mentally, he wishes he was somewhere else, and if so, maybe we should accommodate him. He has trade value, and at the trade deadline, a team that thinks one more piece might get them across the finish line may be willing to overpay. Wishful thinking perhaps.

Not to be a naysayer, but at this point, I think it would take a miracle for us to make the playoff's. Not impossible, but based on how the team has played so far, I've seen no indication that its about to turn the season around. Yeah, we closed out with a win, but we barely beat the team with the worse record in the NBA. Just doesn't excite me. Right now, were four and half games behind Utah for the eight spot, and we also have Houston in our way as well. But if Utah, which is at five hundred right now with 26 wins and 26 losses, were to continue to play five hundred basketball, we would have to win 19 out of our last 29 games just to tie them. Same holds true for tying Portland. Doesn't make me optimistic.
 
I agree with your point about Willie and Cuz, but only with a coach that will use them properly. I'm sure Willie will come into next season stronger, and more skilled overall. Collison, despite being a black hole on occasion, has been one of the few consistent players on the team, and if Rondo were to seek greener pastures during the offseason, I could certainly live with Collison as my starting PG.

Casspi is what he is. A very consistent compliment to other good players. What he isn't, is someone you can throw out there with lesser talented players, and expect him to carry the team. Koufos is a solid backup center who can give you a little offense at times, and defend the post. So I agree with you on who the core players are, and like you, I didn't automatically include Gay in that group. Although I could.

Gay is one of those players that falls under the great game/poor game label. He's been inconsistent with his effort all year long, at times as though he's day dreaming. I think mentally, he wishes he was somewhere else, and if so, maybe we should accommodate him. He has trade value, and at the trade deadline, a team that thinks one more piece might get them across the finish line may be willing to overpay. Wishful thinking perhaps.

Not to be a naysayer, but at this point, I think it would take a miracle for us to make the playoff's. Not impossible, but based on how the team has played so far, I've seen no indication that its about to turn the season around. Yeah, we closed out with a win, but we barely beat the team with the worse record in the NBA. Just doesn't excite me. Right now, were four and half games behind Utah for the eight spot, and we also have Houston in our way as well. But if Utah, which is at five hundred right now with 26 wins and 26 losses, were to continue to play five hundred basketball, we would have to win 19 out of our last 29 games just to tie them. Same holds true for tying Portland. Doesn't make me optimistic.

This is the same exact feeling I get from him, on a nightly basis almost.
 
Everything that's thought about or written about relating to this team, both positive and negative revolves around one person. DeMarcus Cousins! Whether the coach is the right coach or not, depends on whether Cousins likes the coach. Whether we resign Rondo or not, maybe depends on how it will affect Cousins. Whether we trade Gay or not, depends on how it might affect Cousins. We won't sell the "Year of the Monkey" t-shirts in the Kings store, because Cousins found that a tradition that goes back 5000 years is now suddenly racist. The inmates are running the asylum folks, and that always leads to chaos.

You state this as if it's a unique situation. It's typically the price you pay for having a star player. Unless you have a unique star like Tim Duncan, who is mild mannered, or a situation like the Warriors have going on right now -- it is the status quo. If you ship Cousins out, some other star player (if you can get one) will take his place and be the same headache, especially if you can't build a winner around him. This isn't a new revelation. And it isn't a DeMarcus Cousins problem.

Everything you wrote above applies to LeBron James in Cleveland. And Kobe Bryant in LA. And Carmelo Anthony anywhere he's been. And Dwight Howard. Those are just current examples. You can go back to Magic Johnson with Paul Westhead. Winning cures all. And until the Kings start doing that, the entire franchise will continue to get thrown under the bus with Cuz being the first.
 
I dont give Vivek a pass. Not in the least. He made some very bad choices. That prancing weasel
Pete D'Alessandro he hired as a GM was a monumental mistake. Listening to that dimwit and letting go Mussleman was a monumental mistake. Hiring Vlade was a step in the right direction. It will take time to undo the stupidity of PETIE. Letting Isaiah Thomas go for a Kings dog and a bag of chips was super stupid. It will take time to right the ship. BUT if Vivek can step back and allow Vlade to run the team, they have a slim chance to fix this leaking tugboat of a team. It was the right move to keep Karl. More change is not needed right now. They need to bring in better players. This team is lacking sorely in the frontcourt. The guards are atrocious defenders. Work with what you got ! Bring in better players to replace those that cant or will not play defense. Trade whomever you have to in order to accomplish the task. Move in A direction. Make sure everyone is moving in the SAME direction. Im not giving up on this team. Not now NOT NEVER.
 
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Not sure why you and others are so insistent we have no evidence of Vivek meddling.

We have respected NBA reporters saying Ranadive leaned toward firing Karl and Vlade talked him out of it. If Vlade has to talk him out of it then Vivek is, by definition, meddling.

Meddling- to interfere in or busy oneself unduly with something that is not one's concern.

If Vlade is in control, then Karl is not Vivek's concern.

He is meddling. Absolutely. It's never stopped. Whether Vlade makes the final call or not is irrelevant. To me, it sounds like he's had to talk his meddling owner off the ledge. Again.

Giving your opinion in and of itself is not meddling IMHO. And we cannot really rely on those "respected NBA reporters" to get anything right any more, can we?

Vivek owns a majority of the team. I think he has a right to voice an opinion, if he did. And, if he did make such a comment, at least he didn't do it publicly.
 
He's probably deleted the tweets by now but Marcos Breton went on this crazy drunken Twitter rant about the Kings a few months back. It was funny weird and sad all at once. It is hard for me to take him seriously since then.

It is personal with this guy and seems rooted in jealousy. He has this two-bit job and the guys he writes about don't.

Agree.
 
You state this as if it's a unique situation. It's typically the price you pay for having a star player. Unless you have a unique star like Tim Duncan, who is mild mannered, or a situation like the Warriors have going on right now -- it is the status quo. If you ship Cousins out, some other star player (if you can get one) will take his place and be the same headache, especially if you can't build a winner around him. This isn't a new revelation. And it isn't a DeMarcus Cousins problem.

Everything you wrote above applies to LeBron James in Cleveland. And Kobe Bryant in LA. And Carmelo Anthony anywhere he's been. And Dwight Howard. Those are just current examples. You can go back to Magic Johnson with Paul Westhead. Winning cures all. And until the Kings start doing that, the entire franchise will continue to get thrown under the bus with Cuz being the first.

There was a point in what I wrote that you missed, but if I have to explain it, not worth it. Your right, winning cures everything and I would like to point out that all those players you mentioned were winners and made their teams winners. Sometimes you throw players together, and none of them are stars, or at least so called superstars, but by playing together, they become stars. By the nature of how they fit together, they make each other better. It can work the other way around as well. Webber's career was going in the wrong direction when he got traded to the Kings. He didn't want to come here, but as it turned out, he became a major star by playing with Vlade, Peja, Bibby and Christie. Who knows if that would have happened if he hadn't been traded to the Kings.

By the same token, you can put supposed stars together, and have it turn into a disaster. There is no simple answer, and personally I think there's a lot of luck in the process. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and start over. Not what anyone wants to hear, but true non the less. Not saying I'm totally convinced that's what we have to do, but the bread is starting to get stale.
 
There was a point in what I wrote that you missed, but if I have to explain it, not worth it.

It wouldn't be the first time I missed something, my friend. Happens all the time :)

I would like to point out that all those players you mentioned were winners and made their teams winners.

Not so sure I'd call Carmelo a winner. He's been on some winning teams, but he's been on a lot of bad ones too. Same with Howard.
 
As mentioned by others already, Breton has an axe to grind and it comes across as personal. Seriously though, he needs to stay in his lane. Writing about the Kings is not his job and his opinions are usually kind of crapty.

Breton, Napear and Voison tend to let there personal relationships with Cousins or lack thereof bleed over into their jobs. In Voisons article today, she was mentioning that Vlade needs a GM to help take the load off and that maybe it's time to consider trading Cousins for someone who wants to be coached. She has no idea what Vlade needs and I'd rather Vlade see his vision through but that is a potshot at Cousins. You want to write an article about trading Cousins and maybe what the benefits or negatives would be with the change in personnel is one thing, to continually take potshots at a guy is pretty damn weak.
 
I agree with your point about Willie and Cuz, but only with a coach that will use them properly. I'm sure Willie will come into next season stronger, and more skilled overall. Collison, despite being a black hole on occasion, has been one of the few consistent players on the team, and if Rondo were to seek greener pastures during the offseason, I could certainly live with Collison as my starting PG.

Casspi is what he is. A very consistent compliment to other good players. What he isn't, is someone you can throw out there with lesser talented players, and expect him to carry the team. Koufos is a solid backup center who can give you a little offense at times, and defend the post. So I agree with you on who the core players are, and like you, I didn't automatically include Gay in that group. Although I could.

Gay is one of those players that falls under the great game/poor game label. He's been inconsistent with his effort all year long, at times as though he's day dreaming. I think mentally, he wishes he was somewhere else, and if so, maybe we should accommodate him. He has trade value, and at the trade deadline, a team that thinks one more piece might get them across the finish line may be willing to overpay. Wishful thinking perhaps.

Not to be a naysayer, but at this point, I think it would take a miracle for us to make the playoff's. Not impossible, but based on how the team has played so far, I've seen no indication that its about to turn the season around. Yeah, we closed out with a win, but we barely beat the team with the worse record in the NBA. Just doesn't excite me. Right now, were four and half games behind Utah for the eight spot, and we also have Houston in our way as well. But if Utah, which is at five hundred right now with 26 wins and 26 losses, were to continue to play five hundred basketball, we would have to win 19 out of our last 29 games just to tie them. Same holds true for tying Portland. Doesn't make me optimistic.
If we lose our next 5 games, I think the tank has to come out no matter what.

Do I hate being in the lotto every year? Yes. However, the only way we can really build this team going forward is through the draft while we still have our pick and Cousins. Sacramento is still not a FA location for anybody. The 2015 off-season was a great example of it. Publicly, 3-4 role players turned down the Kings for less money... a guy coming off a serious leg injury turned down nearly a max. We got Kofus and Belinelli, but we had to slightly overpay.

This team needs a mini-rebuild. The only players we should absolutely retain for next year are: Cousins, WCS, and Collison. Kofus and Casspi would be guys we should try to retain, unless a good deal pops up. Everyone else should be expendable.

While I love what Rondo has done with Cousins and the team, I'm just not sure I want to invest the next 4 years with an aging PG who's game mostly relies on athleticism. Imagine if Rondo suddenly hits a halt 2 years into his extension. At that point, he'd basically be an aggressive Andre Miller with a 10mpy+ contract.

This franchise can't continue to cripple themselves with poor decision making.
I think this team just needs to bring in the right coach for Cousins. I'm thinking that's Calipari...but he's a huge risk.

Things will be a lot better as long as Vivek stays out of Vlade's way..but I'm also a bit concerned about Vlade. Especially his Stauskas trade. Doesn't matter how big of a disappointment Stauskas has been, that trade looks terrible right now. Stauskas+Landry+JT+2016swap or 2017swap+2018protected or 2019 unprotected...all for Belinelli and Kofus.
 
It wouldn't be the first time I missed something, my friend. Happens all the time :)



Not so sure I'd call Carmelo a winner. He's been on some winning teams, but he's been on a lot of bad ones too. Same with Howard.

Look, I'm not a big fan of Melo's, and he's never won a championship, but he has helped teams into the playoffs. As I pointed out, his rookie year he took a team that had won just 17 games the year before, and with essentially the same roster got that team into the playoffs. Make what you want of that. Maybe it was just plain luck. If so, the Kings could use a little of that luck. Damm, I've forgotten what my point was....:eek:
 
If we lose our next 5 games, I think the tank has to come out no matter what.

Do I hate being in the lotto every year? Yes. However, the only way we can really build this team going forward is through the draft while we still have our pick and Cousins. Sacramento is still not a FA location for anybody. The 2015 off-season was a great example of it. Publicly, 3-4 role players turned down the Kings for less money... a guy coming off a serious leg injury turned down nearly a max. We got Kofus and Belinelli, but we had to slightly overpay.

This team needs a mini-rebuild. The only players we should absolutely retain for next year are: Cousins, WCS, and Collison. Kofus and Casspi would be guys we should try to retain, unless a good deal pops up. Everyone else should be expendable.

While I love what Rondo has done with Cousins and the team, I'm just not sure I want to invest the next 4 years with an aging PG who's game mostly relies on athleticism. Imagine if Rondo suddenly hits a halt 2 years into his extension. At that point, he'd basically be an aggressive Andre Miller with a 10mpy+ contract.

This franchise can't continue to cripple themselves with poor decision making.
I think this team just needs to bring in the right coach for Cousins. I'm thinking that's Calipari...but he's a huge risk.

Things will be a lot better as long as Vivek stays out of Vlade's way..but I'm also a bit concerned about Vlade. Especially his Stauskas trade. Doesn't matter how big of a disappointment Stauskas has been, that trade looks terrible right now. Stauskas+Landry+JT+2016swap or 2017swap+2018protected or 2019 unprotected...all for Belinelli and Kofus.

Lol you think DMC is coming back here if we tank. That's amusing!
 
If we lose our next 5 games, I think the tank has to come out no matter what.

Do I hate being in the lotto every year? Yes. However, the only way we can really build this team going forward is through the draft while we still have our pick and Cousins. Sacramento is still not a FA location for anybody. The 2015 off-season was a great example of it. Publicly, 3-4 role players turned down the Kings for less money... a guy coming off a serious leg injury turned down nearly a max. We got Kofus and Belinelli, but we had to slightly overpay.

This team needs a mini-rebuild. The only players we should absolutely retain for next year are: Cousins, WCS, and Collison. Kofus and Casspi would be guys we should try to retain, unless a good deal pops up. Everyone else should be expendable.

While I love what Rondo has done with Cousins and the team, I'm just not sure I want to invest the next 4 years with an aging PG who's game mostly relies on athleticism. Imagine if Rondo suddenly hits a halt 2 years into his extension. At that point, he'd basically be an aggressive Andre Miller with a 10mpy+ contract.

This franchise can't continue to cripple themselves with poor decision making.
I think this team just needs to bring in the right coach for Cousins. I'm thinking that's Calipari...but he's a huge risk.

Things will be a lot better as long as Vivek stays out of Vlade's way..but I'm also a bit concerned about Vlade. Especially his Stauskas trade. Doesn't matter how big of a disappointment Stauskas has been, that trade looks terrible right now. Stauskas+Landry+JT+2016swap or 2017swap+2018protected or 2019 unprotected...all for Belinelli and Kofus.

Hindsight is 100% as they say. Most people thought it was a good trade at the time. Who knew that Belinelli was going to forget how to shoot. But to be honest about the whole thing, the only thing worth considering as a loss is our draft picks and Stauskas, who I still like. JT and Landry may have had value to someone, but not to us. Landry turned out to be a terrible signing, and became almost untradable. We had to give up Stauskas and switching draft picks just to get Philly to take Landry and JT. At this point, I have a hard time losing sleep over the trade.

As for who we eventually replace Karl with? I'd have to see whose available at the time. I think Calapari is nothing but wishful thinking. I don't see him giving up his gig at Kentucky. He's making big bucks, and he's a god on campus. And for those that think he's a good idea, remember his system is the dribble drive system, the same system that Karl uses. However, Calapari has shown to be more flexible than Karl depending on his roster, and is a fanatic about defense. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in a young talented upcoming college coach similar to Brad Stevens of the Celtics. He's found a way to make that team over achieve. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Lionel Hollins, but he's a very hard nosed coach who will punch you in the nose as soon as look at you.