Malik King-in-Arabic Monk

Brown talking about his relationship with Monk on post-game. Says he apologized to Malik for not coaching him in a rough game last night. That they're straight up with each other and can be honest with their relationship.

Very much sounds like a great relationship.
 
That's why I think the starter question is really a non-issue. He seems happy with his role. If this were going to be what causes him to sign elsewhere I think the team would accommodate his desire to start. Unless it is just a given fact that he is going to command more than we can pay.
 
Monk is the closest thing we have to someone who will call out underachieving teammates, get mad about losing, and get in people's faces when needed. I hope this increases as his Kings tenure continues. We have plenty of easy going chill, we need his passion and willingness to be a catalyst. Similar to what we had in the early days of Holmes.
 
I'm already emotionally preparing myself to lose him in FA.

Some team is gonna offer him the bag, and honestly it's deserved.

Hopefully we can bring him back with a one year and promise of a fat extension after.
 
Monk is the quintessential player who leaves a good spot looking for money, goes to a bad team, and then becomes a 'stats guy'

He is good and he has been good, but he cannot be the focal point of an offense full time. We already saw this week he had 6 points on Tuesday and 37 on Wednesday.

He is perfect in the role he is in, and I am pretty sure he knows it. What it will come down to is, is the 5-6MM more a year he MIGHT be able to get as an UFA worth it to him to go to a possibly worse situation. I honestly doubt it. Especially if that means he's miserable.
 
gunks said:
I'm already emotionally preparing myself to lose him in FA.

Some team is gonna offer him the bag, and honestly it's deserved.

Hopefully we can bring him back with a one year and promise of a fat extension after.
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The worst thing is a one year I think he can only get the standard raise, if we go early-Bird on him we can give him something like 17.5 million but it has to be two years with no option year.

so he either has to sign for a year to get full Bird and risk injury or he signs maybe a 3-year with an option in the final year, but it's under 20m per.

It's going to be tough to keep him so we have to believe that he wants to be here, that the Fox bond is maybe enough happiness in life that it overrides a few extra million, and that maybe he sees 6th man of the year as an obtainable award that is more meaningful than "a starter".

Maybe we can give him a big incentive for 6MOY? I don't know if that constitutes a "likely" incentive for cap purposes since only one player can get it, unless he has already won it this year.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
The worst thing is a one year I think he can only get the standard raise, if we go early-Bird on him we can give him something like 17.5 million but it has to be two years with no option year.

so he either has to sign for a year to get full Bird and risk injury or he signs maybe a 3-year with an option in the final year, but it's under 20m per.

It's going to be tough to keep him so we have to believe that he wants to be here, that the Fox bond is maybe enough happiness in life that it overrides a few extra million, and that maybe he sees 6th man of the year as an obtainable award that is more meaningful than "a starter".

Maybe we can give him a big incentive for 6MOY? I don't know if that constitutes a "likely" incentive for cap purposes since only one player can get it, unless he has already won it this year.
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the other thing to consider is the “I’m HIM” guy out in LA. He only got 56 mil. Sure it was the max LA could offer but any other team could have came in and offered more in the back half of the deal. No offer sheets. Part of it was teams figured lakers match but still a little surprised. The Magic and Spurs have the space and a starting job open but Suggs is awesome now and Black looks good for a rook. Spurs, who knows? Does he want to play for Pop? Playing with a potential all time great is appealing but I dunno. 78 mil isn’t too shabby. If I were him I’d sign a 3 year deal with a player option. Then he can go get one more big one right smack dab in the middle of his prime.
 
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pdxKingsFan said:
The worst thing is a one year I think he can only get the standard raise, if we go early-Bird on him we can give him something like 17.5 million but it has to be two years with no option year.

so he either has to sign for a year to get full Bird and risk injury or he signs maybe a 3-year with an option in the final year, but it's under 20m per.

It's going to be tough to keep him so we have to believe that he wants to be here, that the Fox bond is maybe enough happiness in life that it overrides a few extra million, and that maybe he sees 6th man of the year as an obtainable award that is more meaningful than "a starter".

Maybe we can give him a big incentive for 6MOY? I don't know if that constitutes a "likely" incentive for cap purposes since only one player can get it, unless he has already won it this year.
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I'm pretty sure we can do a 1+1 with early bird rights. Keith Smith tweeted something about it.

To me, that remains the most likely scenario. Gets injury protection for next season and then gets a fat extension from us the following year. People are freaking out about him leaving too much.

There's only like 6 or 7 teams with actual cap space and there's only like 3 teams that might be interested in signing him. And I think all those teams would have to offer 25+ mil to get him to even consider leaving. And even then, I don't know if those clubs can even offer the same role that we can here. And two of those teams, SAS and Utah, are pretty clear rebuilding spots. Is Monk really going to go back to a rebuilding squad, after losing the first 5 years of his career? After he's been a key component to a winner here in Sac with a massive role?

Orlando is the team I'd be worried about, but they also have a ton of investment in their guards. Cole Anthony is basically their own version of Monk, Suggs has been all-defensive team good, Black was their #6 pick and Fultz was their best guard heading into this season. They just don't have a ton of room to add a Monk to that back-court.
 
Impossible for me to put myself in that position, as I’ll never have a choice like that to make, but when you’re talking about making millions per year and having vs and looking at the difference of making a few extra million in a situation you might not enjoy… there’s value in being happy and enjoying your playing days in a situation you know you like.
 
I'm starting Huerter tomorrow as I believe in the value of the sixth man. But if we can get someone like Kuzma, we have to start Monk too. That starting line up (Fox, Sabonis, Keegan, Monk, Kuzma) has to exist for its sheer sickness. I want to see it.
 
The_Jamal said:
I'm pretty sure we can do a 1+1 with early bird rights. Keith Smith tweeted something about it.
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I'm looking for the source but I have checked this routinely, and recall that the rules are two year minimum and no player or team option in second year.

found it: emphasis mine
Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player’s salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season, if he played for the team for some or all of each of the prior two consecutive seasons (or, if he changed teams, he did so by trade or by assignment via the NBA’s waiver procedures). A contract signed using the Early Bird Exception must be for at least two seasons (not including any option year).
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https://www.nba.com/news/free-agency-explained

Wasn't in the Larry Coon faq but I sorta trust nba.com as an official source?
 
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I’m thinking 3 guys are the most comparable, at least recently:

1) Poole- reserve guard with playoff success. Quirky personality. He is now viewed as a pretty big over pay.

2) AR- reserve guard held back by his previous deal. Big time bargain contract

3) IQ- highly regarded two way player. What will he get? I’d guess 25 or more but Toronto has no leverage
 
Capt. Factorial said:
It actually is in the Larry Coon FAQ under question 25.
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I didn't see anything in that area saying specifically no-options allowed as definitively as the NBA page does, although it does specifically say it was designed to prevent teams from doing one year deals for Bird rights and then giving them a full Bird deal the following season. I searched "option" and it only comes up in question 25 for rookie deals and disabled player exceptions.
EARLY BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is a weaker form of the Larry Bird exception. It also allows teams to exceed the cap to re-sign their own free agents, but with more limited contracts than the Larry Bird exception. To qualify for this exception the player must play for two seasons without clearing waivers or changing teams as a free agent (see question number 32 for details and nuances to this rule). A team may use the Early Bird exception to re-sign its own free agent for up to 175% of his salary in the previous season (not over the maximum salary, of course) or 105% of the average salary in the previous season3, whichever is greater (see question number 31 for the definition of "average salary"). Early Bird contracts must be at least two seasons in length, which prevents teams from using the Early Bird to sign a one-year contract, then signing the same player with the full Larry Bird exception the following season. Early Bird contracts can be up to four years in length, with raises up to 8% of the salary in the first season of the contract. Early Bird is also a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception, and qualifying players are called "Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA.

If the player is a restricted free agent with two years of service and qualifies for the Early Bird exception, then the player's prior team may use the Early Bird exception to match an offer sheet he receives from another team under the Gilbert Arenas provision (see question number 43. This is true even if the starting salary for the Early Bird exception is lower than the starting salary in the offer sheet, which is based on the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception.

A team can renounce its Early Bird rights to a player, and instead re-sign him with the Non-Bird exception (see below). They might do this in order to sign the player to a one-year contract, instead of the minimum two years required by the Early Bird exception.

Starting January 10 of each season, this exception begins to reduce in value. See question number 26 for details.
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Anyways, it seems clear to me that we can't do a 1+1 and anyone who suggests we do may have overlooked this rule somehow. Feels ... unfair in our case where we presumably offered Monk market value for 2 years and he excelled in his new role. But obviously this is exploitable in others.
 
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