Kreidler: The end

VF21

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http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/14252425p-15068552c.html
The end
The Kings may be out of the playoffs, but owners are back in activist mode
By Mark Kreidler -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PDT Saturday, May 6, 2006


Their team's playoff hopes sliding out of sight from early in the third quarter, Joe and Gavin Maloof had ample time Friday night to ponder the future of the franchise.

And as the Kings abruptly head into an off-season in which every potential decision - on personnel, coaching and facilities - feels not only crucial but uncertain, this much appears clear: The Maloofs, after two years of mostly absent ownership, are back in an activist mode.

For the Kings, an inspired run against the San Antonio Spurs ended in a desultory 105-83 loss in Game 6 at Arco Arena. The Spurs, top seed in the Western Conference, thus captured a rugged first-round series and will meet Dallas in the semifinals beginning Sunday.

Sacramento, meanwhile, falls face-first into a summer rife with intriguing questions, chief among them whether Rick Adelman or someone else will coach the team next season and whether one of the Kings' most important players, Bonzi Wells, will return.

Both of those moves may link to the larger effort to gain approval for a new arena. On that front, too, the Maloof family has swung into action, announcing Friday that it has retained former state
Assemblyman Darrell Steinberg to help broker a deal with Sacramento city and county officials.

Ultimate decisions on all these issues lie with the Maloofs, but that was always the case. What this season has marked, and continues to mark, is the renewed interest by the family, and Joe and Gavin in particular, in the day-to-day operations of the franchise - both on and off the court.

"They can re-sign me if they want to," Wells said after scoring 17 points. "It's up to them."

By "them," Wells meant the Maloofs - and he was correct as to where the power lies. Earlier in this series, Joe and Gavin approached Wells' agent and told him of their ardent desire to sign Wells to a new contract this summer after he becomes a free agent.

It was another in a recent series of examples that suggest the Maloofs have reclaimed their place as one of the more involved ownership groups in the NBA.

Both Joe and Gavin departed by jet for Las Vegas immediately after Friday's game and were unavailable by cell phone. But their actions of late suggest they'll be heavily involved in this off-season.

Adelman's status may be the first to be determined. The coach completed his eighth season with a flourish, taking the Kings to a 26-14 record after the Ron Artest trade was made in January and then riding Artest and Wells to take the Spurs to six difficult games.

Despite guiding the Kings to the playoffs in each of his eight seasons, though, Adelman's relationship with the Maloofs may be central. The Maloofs' first return to active ownership, in fact, came a year ago at this time, when they pursued Phil Jackson as head coach and declined to extend Adelman's contract beyond 2005-06.

"Tonight is not the time" to discuss his future, Adelman said late Friday night. It is expected that the coach and the Maloofs will meet within the next week or two to address the coaching situation.

It will be a Maloof decision, essentially. Both Joe and Gavin pushed hard for the Artest trade, and their gamble - that Artest's talent would overwhelm any character issues - has paid off handsomely.

Now they'll likely have to pay handsomely for Wells, who could fetch $9 million or more per season. But Wells also contributed heavily to a winner, and the Maloofs know a winning team may be critical in pushing an agenda for a new arena.

About the writer: Reach Mark Kreidler at (916) 321-1149 or mkreidler@sacbee.com.
 

SacTownKid

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#2
VF21 said:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/14252425p-15068552c.html
The end
The Kings may be out of the playoffs, but owners are back in activist mode
By Mark Kreidler -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PDT Saturday, May 6, 2006


Their team's playoff hopes sliding out of sight from early in the third quarter, Joe and Gavin Maloof had ample time Friday night to ponder the future of the franchise.

And as the Kings abruptly head into an off-season in which every potential decision - on personnel, coaching and facilities - feels not only crucial but uncertain, this much appears clear: The Maloofs, after two years of mostly absent ownership, are back in an activist mode.

For the Kings, an inspired run against the San Antonio Spurs ended in a desultory 105-83 loss in Game 6 at Arco Arena. The Spurs, top seed in the Western Conference, thus captured a rugged first-round series and will meet Dallas in the semifinals beginning Sunday.

Sacramento, meanwhile, falls face-first into a summer rife with intriguing questions, chief among them whether Rick Adelman or someone else will coach the team next season and whether one of the Kings' most important players, Bonzi Wells, will return.

Both of those moves may link to the larger effort to gain approval for a new arena. On that front, too, the Maloof family has swung into action, announcing Friday that it has retained former state
Assemblyman Darrell Steinberg to help broker a deal with Sacramento city and county officials.

Ultimate decisions on all these issues lie with the Maloofs, but that was always the case. What this season has marked, and continues to mark, is the renewed interest by the family, and Joe and Gavin in particular, in the day-to-day operations of the franchise - both on and off the court.

"They can re-sign me if they want to," Wells said after scoring 17 points. "It's up to them."

By "them," Wells meant the Maloofs - and he was correct as to where the power lies. Earlier in this series, Joe and Gavin approached Wells' agent and told him of their ardent desire to sign Wells to a new contract this summer after he becomes a free agent.

It was another in a recent series of examples that suggest the Maloofs have reclaimed their place as one of the more involved ownership groups in the NBA.

Both Joe and Gavin departed by jet for Las Vegas immediately after Friday's game and were unavailable by cell phone. But their actions of late suggest they'll be heavily involved in this off-season.

Adelman's status may be the first to be determined. The coach completed his eighth season with a flourish, taking the Kings to a 26-14 record after the Ron Artest trade was made in January and then riding Artest and Wells to take the Spurs to six difficult games.

Despite guiding the Kings to the playoffs in each of his eight seasons, though, Adelman's relationship with the Maloofs may be central. The Maloofs' first return to active ownership, in fact, came a year ago at this time, when they pursued Phil Jackson as head coach and declined to extend Adelman's contract beyond 2005-06.

"Tonight is not the time" to discuss his future, Adelman said late Friday night. It is expected that the coach and the Maloofs will meet within the next week or two to address the coaching situation.

It will be a Maloof decision, essentially. Both Joe and Gavin pushed hard for the Artest trade, and their gamble - that Artest's talent would overwhelm any character issues - has paid off handsomely.

Now they'll likely have to pay handsomely for Wells, who could fetch $9 million or more per season. But Wells also contributed heavily to a winner, and the Maloofs know a winning team may be critical in pushing an agenda for a new arena.

About the writer: Reach Mark Kreidler at (916) 321-1149 or mkreidler@sacbee.com.
Oh I seriously doubt that one. never know though.
 

SacTownKid

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SDKing said:
He's making 8 this season, and right now he's the top FA SG.
But its that last year of his deal though. That number went up every year of the deal.

But a deal that averages out somewhere near 9 million means he will most likely be making in the neighborhood of 10-11 million in the last year. He is looking at a 5-6 year deal.

Maybe, I just wouldn't be too sure. He'd be worth it if you ask me.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#6
Thta's probably going to be the range -- about what he's paid now + a few $$.

One of the interesting subtexts of a LOT of the moves made in the last 1 1/2 years is where is the balance of power anymore between the Maloofs and Petrie?
 
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Well I'm glad to hear that the maloofs have approached Bonzi's agent. That shows at least a want to re-sign. If they just can't, because of money issues I'll understand, but at least I know they want to take a shot at it.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Thta's probably going to be the range -- about what he's paid now + a few $$.

One of the interesting subtexts of a LOT of the moves made in the last 1 1/2 years is where is the balance of power anymore between the Maloofs and Petrie?
Well, this makes alot of peoples areguements, that GM's aren't that much smarter than your average fans. The Maloofs are nothing more than the average fan, but they were the ones that wanted Ron here, and they were the ones that wanted Bonzi here. They may be calling alot of shots from now on. A question may be, is there a rift between Petrie and the Maloofs, considering that Petrie didn't want to trade Peja, and it was the Maloofs that went out and got Ron. Perhaps there could be resentment given the success this team has shown after the trade.
 

VF21

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SME
#9
The Maloofs are nothing more than the average fan?

Erm, not exactly. Their family has owned a professional sports franchise before. They know the inner workings of the team dynamics, such as what actually may have occured in the locker room at various times, which players are impossible to deal with, etc.

Bottom line is that Geoff Petrie works for the Maloofs. If he's not happy, he can quit. They aren't holding a gun to his head and forcing him to do things he has massive reservations about doing. If they, the Maloofs, didn't believe Geoff Petrie was still the right person for the job, they'd fire him.
 
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VF21 said:
The Maloofs are nothing more than the average fan?
Yes, in so far as talent evaluation. Obvisouly, they have inside information about the Kings in regards to team chemistry and such, but they can't forecast player development any better than the average fan. How did Mark Cuban fare when he was buying all the big names? He finally settled down and listened to Donnie Nelson and Avery. The Maloofs are no different than Cuban. The Artest deal was a no brainer. If Petrie was truly against it, and I am at an utter loss as to why, unless it was entirely personal. But, the Maloofs never even played basketball. I think one of the younger brothers played small college football before transfering to UNLV, but that's the extent of their sports experience.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#12
The Maloofs may have a better understanding of the game than "the average fan" or a worse one. Just like fans themselves -- some fans understand the NBA at least as well as the not always bright men occupying front office positions. Some are clueless. Saying the Maloofs are "fans" as a point of denigration really isn't decisive -- there are many fans I would rather have running things than some of the GMs around the league.

For me personally, I would say the moves that MIGHT be attributable to the Maloofs over the years are a mixed bag. And yes, the Artest move was one of them -- hardly a no brainer apparently as there were 28 other GMs and owners with a shot at Ron, but the Maloofs were the guys finally ballsy enough to step up and take that chance.
 
#13
Bricklayer said:
For me personally, I would say the moves that MIGHT be attributable to the Maloofs over the years are a mixed bag. And yes, the Artest move was one of them -- hardly a no brainer apparently as there were 28 other GMs and owners with a shot at Ron, but the Maloofs were the guys finally ballsy enough to step up and take that chance.
Keep Peja or get Artest=no brainer. Fans get caught up in hype, as do the Maloofs apparently, if they truly are intent on signing Bonzi without even fielding S&T offers.
 
#14
I think it is amusing that an average fan would determine that the Maloofs are no more than average fans. That is patently absurd. Like them or not, nothing about the Maloofs is "average".

It will be interesting to see how they negotiate these troubled waters. The Maloof brothers, owners of the vessel, have a new cannon on the deck of the good ship Sacramento Kings. Unfortunately for the Maloofs, rumor has it that this mighty cannon is not secured properly. Many around the fleet believe that Captain Adelman is the only skipper around who can reliably secure loose cannons. Should the good captain be jettisoned, and rough seas are encountered, will the Maloof's fancy gun slide off its emplacement and crash through the railing and into the sea.

How about these nautical metaphors? :)
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#15
Venom said:
Keep Peja or get Artest=no brainer. Fans get caught up in hype, as do the Maloofs apparently, if they truly are intent on signing Bonzi without even fielding S&T offers.
Apparently not a no brainer for 99% of the NBA. Nor even for the Kings, as it took them 2 months to pull the trigger (which I would translate to Petrie's reluctance followed by a Maloof override).

And its always nice to say its "hype" when you are in a minority position, but the truth is you're just in a minority position. The only "hype Bonzi" machine was Bonzi himself, playing his *** off and being an impact player. The argument FOR keeping him is clear as day, and has nothing to do with anything except what has gone on on the court. No projections for him to be anything but what he's been.

While he may eventually live up to it, if anything it is the other Kings OG who has been the victim of excessive hype -- speculation and projections all over the place.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Apparently not a no brainer for 99% of the NBA. Nor even for the Kings, as it took them 2 months to pull the trigger (which I would translate to Petrie's reluctance followed by a Maloof override).
Nope, that would translate into the Pacers wanting Maggette, and then Maggette getting hurt. Come on though dude, was there a bigger proponent of trading Peja than the Bricklayer? Artest was the best available talent and the Kings had to unload Peja. Easy decision.

So, you wouldn't even field S&T offers for Bonzi? What if the Kings can get Nene? Or another talented front-court player? This team is an #8 seed w/ promise, nobody should be untouchable. We're still only the fourth best team in the Pacific, and the Suns get Amare back next year. Can Bonzi guard Amare, or Brand?

I really hope the Maloofs are not playing GM. As a Cowboys fan I can attest first hand as to what happens when an owner/GM stops listening to his personnel guys. You trade 2 first-round picks for talents like Joey Galloway, and end up with all kinds of bad contracts. It took 7 years and a hefty deal to Parcells to finally put together a couple solid drafts again. Fortunately for the NFL quick turnarounds are possible due to the contracts. Not so in the NBA. And Jerry Jones does nothing but run the Cowboys. He doesn't spend time in Vegas w/ a casino, or try to start up a movie/recording business in LA. Football is his life.
 

VF21

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SME
#18
Petrie brought Bonzi he because he wanted him and because he was pretty sure Wells could be rehabilitated into a top player. That's happened. The idea that Petrie will be looking to sign and trade him is short-sighted and that's NOT what Petrie is all about.

We NEED Bonzi. In fact, right now I'd say he and Artest are just about the closest thing we have to "untouchable"...
 
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SacKings384 said:
Well, this makes alot of peoples areguements, that GM's aren't that much smarter than your average fans. The Maloofs are nothing more than the average fan, but they were the ones that wanted Ron here, and they were the ones that wanted Bonzi here. They may be calling alot of shots from now on. A question may be, is there a rift between Petrie and the Maloofs, considering that Petrie didn't want to trade Peja, and it was the Maloofs that went out and got Ron. Perhaps there could be resentment given the success this team has shown after the trade.
The "average fan" didn't want any part of Ron Artest and that same "average fan" was bummed out that Bobby Jackson was leaving and all we were getting was Bonzi Wells.