The writing is on the wall with Huerter and Barnes at this point anyway. Davion too. Monte probably would figure it's salary off the books at the very least.
I would disagree with you. Grimes is a big step better than Keon. He was a starting SG last year and one of the league's better defenders there. He was a 2nd year player who was a starter on a playoff team. Grimes is a good shooter who's more consistent than Keon (who has hesitancy with that shot for some odd reason).Grimes is not really an upgrade over Keon, just more experienced version of. They are the same age as well. If Brown reduced Keon's time on the court to improve Davion's attractiveness in a trade, then I don't see any value.
I would siagree with you. Grimes is a big step better than Keon. He was a starting SG last year and one of the league's better defenders there. He was a 2nd year player who was a starter on a playoff team. Grimes is a good shooter who's more consistent than Keon (who has hesitancy with that shot for some odd reason).
The biggest difference is their size.
Grimes' size and strength allows him to guard most SGs and some wings, but Keon is limited in his matchups.
- Grimes is 6'5 210lbs with a 6'8 wingspan.
- Keon is 6'3 175lbs with a 6'8.5" wingspan.
huh.
He's been pretty bad defensively in ATL though, despite his reputation. Just been an oil-water combo with him and Trae.
I think i'd rather go here than go LaVine though. At least Murray has actually played good defense before in the NBA and he's on a much more palatable deal with 2 more seasons and a PO after this year for like 10-15 mil less than LaVine. Unprotect our first this year, send them a 26 FRP?
Eason.Houston is interested in Barnes, what do they have that we want? They aren’t going to give us any young guys.
Ask not what Barnes can do for you.Houston is interested in Barnes, what do they have that we want? They aren’t going to give us any young guys.
Eason.
Houston is interested in Barnes, what do they have that we want? They aren’t going to give us any young guys.
Houston is interested in Barnes, what do they have that we want? They aren’t going to give us any young guys.
Houston is interested in Barnes, what do they have that we want? They aren’t going to give us any young guys.
huh.
He's been pretty bad defensively in ATL though, despite his reputation. Just been an oil-water combo with him and Trae.
I think i'd rather go here than go LaVine though. At least Murray has actually played good defense before in the NBA and he's on a much more palatable deal with 2 more seasons and a PO after this year for like 10-15 mil less than LaVine. Unprotect our first this year, send them a 26 FRP?
I see no fit. They want to give up Oladipo or Landale or Jeff Green. We can't trade Barnes for cap space and picks. Makes no sense for us. As you said, it's not like they're going to put Jabari or Amen on the table. Maybe in a crazy squint they might give up Tari Eason? It's unlikely enough that I'm not going to go through the cap stuff, but it would probably have to be Barnes+(Kessler?)+(cut JTA for roster space) for Eason+Oladipo+Landale to make salaries work. I'd have to at least consider that one. Might help us in the long run if Eason can bring up his shooting a bit.
I see no fit. They want to give up Oladipo or Landale or Jeff Green. We can't trade Barnes for cap space and picks. Makes no sense for us. As you said, it's not like they're going to put Jabari or Amen on the table. Maybe in a crazy squint they might give up Tari Eason? It's unlikely enough that I'm not going to go through the cap stuff, but it would probably have to be Barnes+(Kessler?)+(cut JTA for roster space) for Eason+Oladipo+Landale to make salaries work. I'd have to at least consider that one. Might help us in the long run if Eason can bring up his shooting a bit.
With the news that Houston is interested in Barnes, that makes them a perfect three team partner with us and Portland. We would need to send out Barnes in any Jerami Grant trade, and Portland would likely have no interest in Barnes. So how about (this works on Trade Machine):
Kings Get: Jerami Grant and JeSean Tate
Kings Give: Barnes (Houston) Davion (Portland) Duarte (Portland) Kessler (Portland), 2026 FRP (Portland)
Why: Upgrade Barnes to Grant, at the cost of a FRP. Also get a look at Tate, who is a guy I have long thought is a nice bench big wing.
Blazers Get: Mitchell, Duarte, Kessler, Victor Oladipo, 2026 FRP (Kings), 2024 SRP (Rockets)
Blazers Give: Grant, 2030 SRP (Houston)
Why: Get a FRP for Grant, while also unloading his entire $27M contract to create cap space to build around their young guys. Oladipo, Mitchell, and Kessler are all expiring contracts, and Duarte has one more year. Immediately frees up $23M in cap space. Also get a chance to take a look at Mitchell. They give up a distant, protected second round pick to satisfy the rule that every team has to touch every other team in the trade.
Rockets Get: Barnes
Rockets Give: Tate, Oladipo, 2024 SRP (Portland)
Why: upgrade Tate to Barnes at the cost of a second round pick this year (probably low 40s). Barnes gives them more veteran leadership and shooting than Tate, and they could use both of those things.
Maybe the picks are off. Maybe we need to give more picks, or maybe Houston does, but the structure of this trade, with the involved players would be a win-win-win I think.
I’d love him on this team. He’d instantly be our starting SG and helps elevate the team defensively. He would be able to take on the tough defensive assignments that we’ve seen Keegan be tasked with. We lose some of the “knock down” shooting from Kevin, but I think Grimes makes up for it on defense.I think Grimes is a great answer for what we're looking for, but the answer would be to just play both in the rotation. Not entirely sure why the Knicks are souring on him, but he'd be a great fit at the 2 here
Grimes isn’t someone who can effectively run an offense or score in a hurry. I think they essentially want a 6MOY caliber player, or a good backup PG. I also think they see Grimes as an expendable piece because they already have Donte and Hart who have similar size and skill sets.I’m surprised Grimes is supposedly on the block. Has he not taken over the IQ role?