Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!

just reading in Hoopshype that many team executives believe Chicago will need to give up draft compensation just to get out of LaVines contract.
Not sure how desperate things are in Chicago but I was a bit surprised by that.
 
Is it that Chicago want to start completely fresh project , or it is money issue ?
More or less trying to get rid of all star level player sounds strange at least
 
Is it that Chicago want to start completely fresh project , or it is money issue ?
More or less trying to get rid of all star level player sounds strange at least
Judging by Chicago’s record and everything I read it appears they want to blow it up and start fresh.
Not so easy to do with LaVines fat contract, concerns that he hasn’t proved to add to a winning culture, and multiple knee surgeries.
So who knows, its just chatter but if its draft picks Chicago wants outside of talent that matches salarie, they might be hard pressed to get that.
 
IMO the KINGS need to stay away from the likes of Zach Lavine and focus more on OG or Siakam, maybe even Malcolm Brogdon.

Siakam is likely too cost prohibitive contract wise, but OG and Brogdon seem like bargains except for the compensation that it would take to land them.

Lavine is not only cost prohibitive contract wise, he also is a defensive liability. I think the KINGS have enough of those types already.
 
IMO the KINGS need to stay away from the likes of Zach Lavine and focus more on OG or Siakam, maybe even Malcolm Brogdon.

Siakam is likely too cost prohibitive contract wise, but OG and Brogdon seem like bargains except for the compensation that it would take to land them.

Lavine is not only cost prohibitive contract wise, he also is a defensive liability. I think the KINGS have enough of those types already.
id like Brogdon plus he can handle the ball
 
With the emergence of the new best JJJ in Miami I think Caleb Martin might be in play and a very good pick up for the Kings and you could play him at the 3 and move Keegan to the 4 or bring him off the bench. Miami needs a back up PG and Davion is there type of guy. But yeah Brogdan is still the #1 option imo hard to beat.
 
IMO the KINGS need to stay away from the likes of Zach Lavine and focus more on OG or Siakam, maybe even Malcolm Brogdon.

Siakam is likely too cost prohibitive contract wise, but OG and Brogdon seem like bargains except for the compensation that it would take to land them.

Lavine is not only cost prohibitive contract wise, he also is a defensive liability. I think the KINGS have enough of those types already.
I know Brogdon and Sabonis are ex teammates and good friends, so likely established chemistry, but isn’t he primarily a guard, a position where we’re solid. I know, LaVine is also a guard but not quite the defender.
Anyways, what might we give up in this case.
 
I’ve thought about this more lately and I’m currently out on Siakam. 4 straight years of poor 3 point shooting, his best attribute outside of scoring is probably passing. Operates in the same space and has some overlapping skills with Sabonis. Costs too much. I don’t think we land OG and if we do it’s because we stupidly traded Keegan. Lakers have the best trade package for Lavine and there are plenty of things not to like about him. Everyone in the league wants Caruso. One first round pick from us won’t get it done and they don’t need Davion. For me that leaves Derozan because of the skill set that allows us to give different looks on offense and the likely lower price or we ride out with the guys we have and look for help in the offseason. Still time before the trade deadline for some team to collapse and a target shake loose.
 
I’ve thought about this more lately and I’m currently out on Siakam. 4 straight years of poor 3 point shooting, his best attribute outside of scoring is probably passing. Operates in the same space and has some overlapping skills with Sabonis. Costs too much. I don’t think we land OG and if we do it’s because we stupidly traded Keegan. Lakers have the best trade package for Lavine and there are plenty of things not to like about him. Everyone in the league wants Caruso. One first round pick from us won’t get it done and they don’t need Davion. For me that leaves Derozan because of the skill set that allows us to give different looks on offense and the likely lower price or we ride out with the guys we have and look for help in the offseason. Still time before the trade deadline for some team to collapse and a target shake loose.
I think that leaves Finney-Smith as next up for me.

I think he’d be an excellent fit here with his size, length, defense against PFs, rim protection, and shooting. His age (30) is what makes him not ideal for me, but I like the idea of trying to pry him away for Mitchell, Duarte, and a couple 2nds. You could have a rotation of…

PG - Fox (34) / Monk (14)
SG - Huerter (28) / Monk (14) / Murray (6)
SF - Murray (26) / Barnes (22)
PF - Finney-Smith (28) / Sasha (10) / Lyles (6) / Barnes (4)
C - Sabonis (34) / Lyles (14)

Fox = 34 min
Sabonis = 34 min
Murray = 32 min
Huerter = 28 min
Finney-Smith = 28 min
Monk = 28 min
Barnes = 26 min
Lyles = 20 min
Sasha = 10 min

If we’re playing against a bruiser at C, you could potentially swap Sasha’s minutes with Len/McGee.
 
I just read three pages of Kings Fans trade suggestions and didn't see anyone suggest PJ Washington. What's going on?
I mean he is always a solid option/fit for us, and he is now on a great value contract making $46.5 mil over 3 years as a 25 year old (while Barnes got $54 mil over 3 years as a 31 year old). Not to mention Washington’s contract declines over time.

I don’t really see a trade this season that works for both sides while also making the money work, but he’s a guy we could revisit as a trade target in the off-season.

Davion Mitchell & Chris Duarte for PJ Washington works money wise in the off-season so we’d just need to negotiate over draft compensation to get CHA to bite on the trade.
 
The more games I watch , more and more I think that the team doesn’t really need any additional in this trade period …
There is a chemistry in the team , all players are giving their best , some more often , others less…
All of them including foxy had a bad game/s , everyone has his moment of glory, so I believe they are in position not only to qualify but get some wins in payoffs ….
Looking at the H2H why not be a title contender (if we miss GS as long as possible …)
 
I think that leaves Finney-Smith as next up for me.

I think he’d be an excellent fit here with his size, length, defense against PFs, rim protection, and shooting. His age (30) is what makes him not ideal for me, but I like the idea of trying to pry him away for Mitchell, Duarte, and a couple 2nds. You could have a rotation of…

PG - Fox (34) / Monk (14)
SG - Huerter (28) / Monk (14) / Murray (6)
SF - Murray (26) / Barnes (22)
PF - Finney-Smith (28) / Sasha (10) / Lyles (6) / Barnes (4)
C - Sabonis (34) / Lyles (14)

Fox = 34 min
Sabonis = 34 min
Murray = 32 min
Huerter = 28 min
Finney-Smith = 28 min
Monk = 28 min
Barnes = 26 min
Lyles = 20 min
Sasha = 10 min

If we’re playing against a bruiser at C, you could potentially swap Sasha’s minutes with Len/McGee.
DFS is exactly the guy we should be going to get. Under contract for next season with a player option for the following year as well, so we'd get some long-term use out of him. But I keep harping on this; the Kings don't need another offensive focal point; you let Keegan develop into that role naturally. And while he's struggled this year with the shot, you see how all the tools can be there for him to be a 20 PPG scorer very easily very soon.

So many fun lineup combinations you could do with DFS in the mix.
 

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I’d like to make a play for PJ Washington. A lot of two way potential there and possibly could be had for considerably less value than some of our other targets while having a similar impact.
 
DFS is exactly the guy we should be going to get. Under contract for next season with a player option for the following year as well, so we'd get some long-term use out of him. But I keep harping on this; the Kings don't need another offensive focal point; you let Keegan develop into that role naturally. And while he's struggled this year with the shot, you see how all the tools can be there for him to be a 20 PPG scorer very easily very soon.

So many fun lineup combinations you could do with DFS in the mix.
I agree with this. He’d be a perfect pick up and likely won’t cost as much as OG.
 
I mean he is always a solid option/fit for us, and he is now on a great value contract making $46.5 mil over 3 years as a 25 year old (while Barnes got $54 mil over 3 years as a 31 year old). Not to mention Washington’s contract declines over time.

I don’t really see a trade this season that works for both sides while also making the money work, but he’s a guy we could revisit as a trade target in the off-season.

Davion Mitchell & Chris Duarte for PJ Washington works money wise in the off-season so we’d just need to negotiate over draft compensation to get CHA to bite on the trade.
Edit: looks like I quoted the wrong post of yours but obviously I meant DFS

I haven’t watched one Nets game this year. His defensive rating is around 119 if any stock can be put into that. Is he still above average on that end?
 
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I mean he is always a solid option/fit for us, and he is now on a great value contract making $46.5 mil over 3 years as a 25 year old (while Barnes got $54 mil over 3 years as a 31 year old). Not to mention Washington’s contract declines over time.
Nothing for or against PJ Washington as a King. I haven't seen him play much, but get the idea.
 
I haven’t watched one Nets game this year. His defensive rating is around 119 if any stock can be put into that. Is he still above average on that end?
Yeah I haven't really followed him since getting traded to the Nets. I know with the Mavs, he was an impact superstar and one of the best role players in the NBA with his shooting and versatile defense.
 
I don't think we need a star at all we just need this tough 3-4 guy that can guard wings and be passable on offense
The only issue is the stats back it up. No Fox, or Fox not going off and it's a tough W. Has been for two seasons. Right now, I'll take Monte's word for it, shoot for a star. If that's not a real possibility then he'll move onto other things. If it's OG then the idea of Keegan and OG is probably the most tempting since that's insane D at F if Keegan keeps it up. Hopefully his back issues aren't from being in a defensive stance and being ping ponged off screens all night.
 
The only issue is the stats back it up. No Fox, or Fox not going off and it's a tough W. Has been for two seasons. Right now, I'll take Monte's word for it, shoot for a star. If that's not a real possibility then he'll move onto other things. If it's OG then the idea of Keegan and OG is probably the most tempting since that's insane D at F if Keegan keeps it up. Hopefully his back issues aren't from being in a defensive stance and being ping ponged off screens all night.
I just think toughness is something this team needs more than anything.

I think we have enough people that could score at will in theory, that would be Fox Monk probably Davion (he can get a shot off against anyone with his elite quickness) Keegan with time and honestly probably Domas too.

I think this team needs to improve in the mental aspect basically someone that's going to make them a little tougher
 
Hopefully his back issues aren't from being in a defensive stance and being ping ponged off screens all night.
he took a hard spill in the Dallas game. I noted it because I had slipped in the kitchen and slammed on my back in a similar way recently. I could barely move for 3 days and it took 2 weeks for it to fully heal. I was surprised he played the rest of the game but then I remembered he is half my age haha.
 
I just think toughness is something this team needs more than anything.

I think we have enough people that could score at will in theory, that would be Fox Monk probably Davion (he can get a shot off against anyone with his elite quickness) Keegan with time and honestly probably Domas too.

I think this team needs to improve in the mental aspect basically someone that's going to make them a little tougher
Man, I kinda disagree. They are plenty tough. Have they had a few weak willed moments this year, sure. But it’s not egregious.

As much as @sactowndog towndog is annoying with the constant length and D argument, he is right about that. We don’t have it and the defensive stats prove it. Even though we have great D, teams shoot over our players and they far exceed their %%.

What I do disagree with is that he thinks there was some magic move that would have made us better this offseason.
 
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