SacTownKid
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Pride will only carry you so far and when the basketball concepts and principles aren't there it won't carry you nearly far enough nor for very long.
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Pride will only carry you so far and when the basketball concepts and principles aren't there it won't carry you nearly far enough nor for very long.
theclash4u5
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How did Karl turn so many of his teams into playoffs contenders without any interest in coaching defense? That's what I want to know. It's like it's suddenly gone...or the team just isn't buying in.
The Kings have proven over and over again that by going small with this roster and previous rosters AND previous coaches, it leads to some crap records. Whomever the next coach is needs to be a guy who wants to go big, play to our strengths, AND puts defense as a priority.
theclash4u5
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We had that guy. He was fired.
Blob
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There was a play at 98-95 all that epitomized the Kings season. Rondo and Ben were weak side defenders standing like statues. Harden was pounding the ball. Beverly and Ariza were hanging out at the three point line. Beverly curls along the baseline and Rondo stands in one spot and completely loses his man and no one says anything. Ben notices Beverly running along the baseline and takes a step to trail him. He leaves Ariza even more wide open in the corner to catch an easy pass and make a 3.
Two guys totally oblivious at the most critical juncture of the game right in front of the Kings bench!!!!
A turnover and another 3 turns a 3 point lead into 3 point deficit and Kings never get closer. This is what BAD teams do. And we have seen it all year. BAD communication. BAD coaching. This was more than a missed assignment. It was intentionally trying to let the opponent score without giving a damn. Or just confusion beyond belief.
I can accept losing when you are outclassed but when you out-hustled and out-prepared and out-coached and you give away points through JV level basketball it is disgusting to watch.
Two guys totally oblivious at the most critical juncture of the game right in front of the Kings bench!!!!
A turnover and another 3 turns a 3 point lead into 3 point deficit and Kings never get closer. This is what BAD teams do. And we have seen it all year. BAD communication. BAD coaching. This was more than a missed assignment. It was intentionally trying to let the opponent score without giving a damn. Or just confusion beyond belief.
I can accept losing when you are outclassed but when you out-hustled and out-prepared and out-coached and you give away points through JV level basketball it is disgusting to watch.
kingsboi
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I have a feeling that by the time the team realizes this...it's going to be too late.
kingsboi
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Cousins air balls a three and the second one after that barely hits the rim...so then in a sequence we see jump shot after jump shot being missed. Followed by trying to bully his way into a wall by the name of Howard who is a excellent defender and just cannot score on him in any which way he tries. Cousins took himself out of this game, as usual, not the refs.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
How long did the Warriors fans have to suffer before they became a playoff team with Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson and company? what about after they left?
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Live by the jumper...die by the jumper
And the sad part is, it's exactly what our owner wanted. He listened to the wrong people and we all have to suffer with the results.
theclash4u5
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Aaron Bruski @aaronbruski 2m2 minutes ago
GK: I think video will say that it was not a bad DEF game. The pace of the game was extremely fast. When you play fast you give up points”
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GK: I think video will say that it was not a bad DEF game. The pace of the game was extremely fast. When you play fast you give up points”
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kingsboi
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At this point, Vivek has stepped aside and let Vlade do his thing so I can't go and complain about the owner even though the culture he established here upon his arrival was frightening enough and still hasn't changed. One would hope Vlade values defense more than pace and does something in the off season.
k_dubb90
Bench
This x1000
Blob
Starter
Yep. When he came off the bench he tried to dominate the offense which is a total misread of time and situation. The offense was humming along nicely. He needed be a cog in the machine. Not try to be the machine.
It was impatient and stupid basketball. And sort of a carryover of the frustration that was mounting all game. He allows 1st quarter and 2nd quarter (perceived) bad call and bad play to carry into crunch time. It affects his demeanor and judgement. Its a loser's mentality.
The focus of a winner is focusing your energy on what you can control not exhausting energy on what you cannot. Cousins has the mindset of a loser in that he diffuses so much energy in a perpetual state of angst that could be more constructively directly. Its kind of pathetic.
Vlade may be running the show, but if we'd kept Mike Malone we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Vivek's biggest mistake was letting Chris freakin' Mullin choose our front office personnel. That was the beginning of the end for intelligent basketball. I'm glad he's taking a back seat now to people who actually know what they're doing but what ever happened to holding staff accountable? We've got 61 games left, there's still time to turn the season around but only if we make a change soon.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Houston's TEAM TS% was .619 this game.
Which come to think about probably isn't bad for us defensively this year.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
I don't really see what they can do at this point in regards to personnel. What coach wants to come here after all these head coaching changes? I'm thinking Thibs wants a off season off just to clear his mind and take a break from basketball and give head coaching another go next season. In the mean time, we can talk about Malone, Mullin and Pete all we want but they are all gone and now we have to live in a state of mind where anything and everything this organization does will be observed with a magnifying glass because patience has worn thin with the players and more than anything...the fans.
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kingsboi
Hall of Famer
The only kind of winning Cousins has been exposed to was that in the Olympics last season. I figured that would help mature him a bit as a player and start bringing a different mindset to the game. That didn't happen and it's the same thing that continues to happen. He has to be the easiest all-star player to take out his game because smart teams know what's going to get him furious and what you then see is reckless abandon.
The loser mentality is all he knows...I can't blame the guy. He doesn't know what it takes to win in the NBA and all he can really go by is what his peers feed him and Rondo being his anger management counselor.
This is what I thought I heard. While he's technically correct, I've got two points to make:
1. Did you lose your brain George?
2. His definition and my definition of good defense is not the same.
This season is doomed.
Entity
Hall of Famer
I don't like all the double teaming we do. We leave shooters wide open because somebody dives down to double. Most cases it's not needed. For instance Rudy pulling off ariza to help casspi who had harden trapped on baseline. Result pass to ariza for easy layup. Or Ben pulling all the way to the paint to double off the ball harden had it at three point line kicks it over for wide open three.
ShastaKingsFan
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It's virtually impossible to "turn things around" in a positive way towards consistent success, when someone's attitude is negative 'most' of the time. Whenever an adverse challenge presents itself, it's always a 'downer' and draining to everyone on the team...including the coaching staff.
Until the outlook and attitude changes, the odds will always be stacked heavily against
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