Starting to have a bad feeling about this return to play actually happening.
It absolutely will not be happening and people have been fooling themselves for weeks thinking it will.
There will be no major sports (with the exception of PPV UFC) for the next six months, minimum. Sorry, but people need a dose of reality. You've seen your last NBA game of this "season". There will be lawsuits.
There will be no MLB, at all.
There will be no NFL, at all.
There will be ZERO college sports, anywhere.
We will be lucky if baseball starts next April. There will likely be no NBA for the first few months of next season.
Only a sith deals in absolutes...
We shall see. Money is a powerful motivator and has been known to make happen or not to happen. And if you don't think politics influence judicial proceedings, I don't know what to tell you. What I also can't tell you is how the cards being held are going to play out. That we shall see or at least a version that they (whoever they are) want you/me to see.It absolutely will not be happening and people have been fooling themselves for weeks thinking it will.
There will be no major sports (with the exception of PPV UFC) for the next six months, minimum. Sorry, but people need a dose of reality. You've seen your last NBA game of this "season". There will be lawsuits.
There will be no MLB, at all.
There will be no NFL, at all.
There will be ZERO college sports, anywhere.
We will be lucky if baseball starts next April. There will likely be no NBA for the first few months of next season.
So we can have 50+ feudal States? Depending on how you break down the individual States. The waste lands and the "sterilized" pockets?The public health and epidemiological aspects of the bubble games are much more interesting than the basketball aspect. It seems like the NBA has thoughtfully designed rules for managing the disease.
The experiment will tell us something about the viability of cordoning off areas where people can live relatively normally.
Not sure what feudalism has to do with it, or wastelands vs sterilized "pockets." It all sounds a bit high fantasy.So we can have 50+ feudal States? Depending on how you break down the individual States. The waste lands and the "sterilized" pockets?
Simple. Who is allowed in the controlled environment and who is excluded? And who gets to decide? You WILL have the have's and the have's not. We already do. But add to that, the allowed and the allowed not.Not sure what feudalism has to do with it, or wastelands vs sterilized "pockets." It all sounds a bit high fantasy.
I'm talking about figuring out what is actually technically feasible in the real world today in a a controlled environment.
It absolutely will not be happening and people have been fooling themselves for weeks thinking it will.
There will be no major sports (with the exception of PPV UFC) for the next six months, minimum. Sorry, but people need a dose of reality. You've seen your last NBA game of this "season". There will be lawsuits.
There will be no MLB, at all.
There will be no NFL, at all.
There will be ZERO college sports, anywhere.
We will be lucky if baseball starts next April. There will likely be no NBA for the first few months of next season. The riots that result form the upcoming acquittals of cops (you can bank on both acquittals) will be far worse than what we've had, and that will cause a THIRD wave in Oct/Nov. The chaos that is about to ravage through our society will be something that you thought only happened in third world countries. Add in 25% unemployment, and a lot of people just don't have much to lose.
Sorry but COVID-19 is still out there. Yes, there's more testing available BUT when there was fewer tests only those who were symptomatic or in contact of a positive were being tested. Now without symptoms you can be tested. That's a huge variable to take into account. The fatality rate is dropping but is that because it's not as bad as first reported or because younger individuals are now coming up positive and the younger generation has a less likely chance of it killing them now? Down the road who knows what health impact it may or may not have on them?Username and post do not check out
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A lot of the media is trying to trick us into thinking this whole thing is a bigger deal than it really is. Cases are surging because available tests are surging. Death rate continues to drop. The media will drop facts like "ICUs in Florida are at 90% capacity". Is that all ICUs? Just a few? One? Do people know that ICUs are normally at 55-85% capacity without any major diseases going around? Is the stigma of COVID causing some people that test positive to believe they might be sicker than they actually are, which is taking up more hospital beds that might need be? Would many of these people just stayed home and recovered like normal if we had never heard of COVID?
I'm not saying open the flood gates and get back to normal but there are a heck of a lot of us out there that are forced to go back to work and be around a ton of people and we don't make millions of dollars to put up with it. Players need to toughen up and deal with it.
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A lot of the media is trying to trick us into thinking this whole thing is a bigger deal than it really is. Cases are surging because available tests are surging. Death rate continues to drop. The media will drop facts like "ICUs in Florida are at 90% capacity". Is that all ICUs? Just a few? One? Do people know that ICUs are normally at 55-85% capacity without any major diseases going around? Is the stigma of COVID causing some people that test positive to believe they might be sicker than they actually are, which is taking up more hospital beds that might need be? Would many of these people just stayed home and recovered like normal if we had never heard of COVID?
I'm not saying open the flood gates and get back to normal but there are a heck of a lot of us out there that are forced to go back to work and be around a ton of people and we don't make millions of dollars to put up with it. Players need to toughen up and deal with it.
Death is not the only possible negative outcome. I've seen lingering effects from mild complications like pneumonia for a month or more. Shortness of breath, chest pain, fatigue...
I'm not going to knock someone for deciding not to take a risk that they don't have to take.
A lot of the media is trying to trick us into thinking this whole thing is a bigger deal than it really is.
I guess we’re really doing this then
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A lot of the media is trying to trick us into thinking this whole thing is a bigger deal than it really is. Cases are surging because available tests are surging. Death rate continues to drop. The media will drop facts like "ICUs in Florida are at 90% capacity". Is that all ICUs? Just a few? One? Do people know that ICUs are normally at 55-85% capacity without any major diseases going around? Is the stigma of COVID causing some people that test positive to believe they might be sicker than they actually are, which is taking up more hospital beds that might need be? Would many of these people just stayed home and recovered like normal if we had never heard of COVID?
I'm not saying open the flood gates and get back to normal but there are a heck of a lot of us out there that are forced to go back to work and be around a ton of people and we don't make millions of dollars to put up with it. Players need to toughen up and deal with it.
You might be right about the actual reality of the virus.
I contend that that has little bearing on the institutional reactions put in place... which are dictated by hyper fearful politicians that don't want a death on their watch... in an election year. The social and political dynamics are what I'm basing my extremely dire predictions on. The government reactions to date have been even far more extreme that I originally thought.
The entire school year in the majority of public schools at all levels will be online next year. There will be no sports.
as someone who has a daughter in law as an ER doc in AZ, I can tell you there is plenty to be worried about.
Typically a 2nd year resident like her overseas a couple first year residents and spends time looking deeper into cases. Instead she has to cover her own set of cases and manage first years who because of Covid did not get their normal training in their last year of Med school because hospitals were shut down. They are in critical care and having to decide who gets what treatment and who doesn’t.
when you reach the point you have over run your medical personnel people will die needlessly.
...keep the discussion to the relevant sports-related points on this board.
Thanks!
Was debating whether or not to listen to this one. Will check it out now, thanks.and listening to Shams/Simmons talking about the financial bugaboo that some owners are facing (including the Kings ownership group).
I think this NBA thing is going to happen on some level for a variety of reasons, even if it morphs into a glorified pickup game situation because half the teams have to be disqualified or it ends up being cancelled after it has started. My opinion tends to change in a daily/weekly basis, but that's where I'm at now after watching how the MLS just dealt with positive tests and listening to Shams/Simmons talking about the financial bugaboo that some owners are facing (including the Kings ownership group).[/QUOTE
Thanks for the heads up. Will listen to it.
There was an article a few months ago discussing certain ownership groups, who would be more adversely impacted by a prolonged shutdown than others. Teams with new arenas and commitments around their arenas--Kings, GSW, Milwaukee...
Also, for a pending FA like Bogi, outside of injury, this is the worse possible thing to happen to him. Contract values are going to shrink.
The long term impacts of the virus are unknown. What is known is the respiratory system and brain can have huge impacts, and last time I checked the brain and lungs are important. Seriously though there is going to be lasting adverse mental factors for a long time because millions have it.Death is not the only possible negative outcome. I've seen lingering effects from mild complications like pneumonia for a month or more. Shortness of breath, chest pain, fatigue...
I'm not going to knock someone for deciding not to take a risk that they don't have to take.
Well what I mostly want to know was who was on the airplane and who traveled to Orlando. Any significant names not on the plane based on closing the facility. We are getting crickets in terms of information.