Kings Notes: Petrie: Wells return no longer practical

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By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer

Published 12:01 am PDT Sunday, September 3, 2006

The Bee's Martin McNeal can be reached at mmcneal@sacbee.com.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/14316578p-15231524c.html

Things have been quiet around the Kings these days, but there have been talks within the organization about free-agent swingman Bonzi Wells' renewed interest in rejoining the team.

Wells, who dazzled during last season's first-round playoff loss to the San Antonio Spurs, has been unable to find the lucrative deal he sought this summer and has made it known to the Kings that he would like to return.

But as far as Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie is concerned, his team has moved on.

"There's nothing to that beyond the fact that Bonzi still has legitimate interests about wanting to play for us," Petrie said while interrupting a brief vacation. "The dynamics we've talked about before are still there.

"The tax issue still is there, and we've assembled a roster. We've basically moved on. We've made commitments. There's nothing that's changed, nothing that involves us."

The renewed interest comes after Wells and agent William Phillips failed to take a reported five-year deal extended by the Kings that would have paid him about $8 million annually. The offer was the largest made to Wells and eventually was pulled off the table by the Kings.

Then Sacramento signed free-agent swingman John Salmons, bringing the Kings just below the luxury-tax level of $65.42 million.

Signing Wells -- or virtually anyone else -- would force the Kings to pay luxury tax, which they have resisted.

Wells said throughout last season that he wanted to stay with the Kings, although he was intent on a big free-agent payday. He said he liked the organization, his teammates and the community.

Neither Wells nor Phillips could be reached for comment. Petrie said he has not spoken with Phillips in the past two weeks.

"I talked to William about two or three days before the (Al) Harrington deal went through with Indiana (and Atlanta) because he seemed to think something might happen for Bonzi if that didn't work out," Petrie said of the trade consummated Aug. 22.

One way the Kings might be able to clear cap space to sign Wells is to trade one of the three players with expiring contracts -- Corliss Williamson, Vitaly Potapenko and Jason Hart -- and not take back salary.

Bad trip -- Kings center Brad Miller is known for not wanting to travel abroad. That could mean he didn't get much for his experience this summer with the United States men's basketball team that won the bronze medal in Japan in the world championships.

Coach Mike Krzyzewski clearly saw little he liked from Miller. Miller played a team-low 50 minutes, seeing action in four of nine games on a team that had difficulty making perimeter shots.

Then again, by the time the tournament had ended, Krzyzewski looked as if he had been watching Don Nelson films by the way he was playing small ball and keeping power forwards and centers Elton Brand, Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh on the bench.
 
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Nothing really new, since GP says there is no chance Bonzi comesback this year and they have moved on. it's only Bonzi's agent trying to make other teams offer up there deals.
 
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If we could send Corliss, Potapenko or Hart to a team under the cap and resign Bonzi to a reasonable contract... It would be the first good move this summer.
 
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Nothing really new, since GP says there is no chance Bonzi comesback this year and they have moved on. it's only Bonzi's agent trying to make other teams offer up there deals.
The market for Bonzi is almost non-existant so I hope this talk means "you can always come back for next season for a couple of million" and not "you rejected our pretty lucrative (and significantly better than others) offer, moron, so you are dead to us".
 
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OldSchoolKing

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what do you think they'd offer him for a one year deal if that is even in question?
 
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You know, Charlotte is still quite a ways under the minimum salary level and I doubt they'd want Bonzi. But maybe they'd like Corliss? Then sign Bonzi, maybe to a three year deal?
 
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You know, Charlotte is still quite a ways under the minimum salary level and I doubt they'd want Bonzi. But maybe they'd like Corliss? Then sign Bonzi, maybe to a three year deal?
That would be the best case.

SPAIN WORLD CHAMPIONS. YUHUHUHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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OldSchoolKing

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You know, Charlotte is still quite a ways under the minimum salary level and I doubt they'd want Bonzi. But maybe they'd like Corliss? Then sign Bonzi, maybe to a three year deal?
Do they have a need for corliss?
 
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Bonzi would have to return humble as pie and be able to handle all the crap he would get from players and fans about this offseason and not let it affect him on the court. I don't think he can do that, and at this point I don't know if it's worth it. Someone said the other day that we should be collecting expiring contracts, not giving them away and I agree that we can pick up someone better than bonzi next year when we have more money.
 
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Bonzi would have to return humble as pie and be able to handle all the crap he would get from players and fans about this offseason and not let it affect him on the court. I don't think he can do that, and at this point I don't know if it's worth it....
nah. bygones. If he signs everyone will bury the hatchet easy. It would be pretty cool by me if we could clear the room and sign him up.
 

HndsmCelt

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Gone is gone done is done. Bonzi's agent blew it and now there is no looking back. For better or worse (probably worse) the line up at the 2 is Martin and Salmons. Time to move on for the team and for fans specualting and dreaming about Bonzi won't chance reality. At this point in the offseason I would also say a sign and trade to a team with a trade exemption to give is also gone so end the chapter and move on.
 
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The market for Bonzi is almost non-existant so I hope this talk means "you can always come back for next season for a couple of million" and not "you rejected our pretty lucrative (and significantly better than others) offer, moron, so you are dead to us".
:D So true. I would be all for dumping Corliss and not taking back salary and signing Bonzi. It sucks things worked the way they did this offseason with Bonzi not accepting our offer which was the best....but I think the time he has spent kicking himself is enough for him to come back to us and be the player we need and loved last season and in the playoffs against SA. The bottom line is, Corliss is not going to do anything for us and while we get value for him with his expiring deal next year, I rather have it this year with us signing Bonzi who should now realize that he overvalued himself and hopefully is humble enough to take a pay cut and prove his worth. I'd be all for a 1 year deal, or multi year deal like 3 years or so for under $7M/yr or whatever works to keep us under the tax and still get Bonzi's rebounding and tenacousness.


And last I heard, Bonzi still has his agent. Are you that stupid Bonzi???? Your agent screwed you out of Millions!!!!!! And your not wanting to come back to the Kings who reinvented you and the fans who had your back for more $ that never came from elsewhere and you still turned us down is absolutely crazy.

The funny thing is after all this, I still would want Bonzi back if we could clear Corliss of the books and sign Bonzi and stay under the tax. Bonzi and Artest together is way to entertaining to watch, not to mention creating match up Hell for any team we play.
 
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This is like breaking up with your girlfriend to test the waters and then realizing that nobody else wants to date you so you show up at her door like Ike Turner with some flowers saying "I'm sorry Baby!"
 
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This is like breaking up with your girlfriend to test the waters and then realizing that nobody else wants to date you so you show up at her door like Ike Turner with some flowers saying "I'm sorry Baby!"
And then a man walks up behind her, wearing a towel, going "Who's this baby?"...

lol

Bonzi = Holding Flowers
 
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Then I hate the person who's bright idea it was to sign Salmons. Just becuase Bonzi screwed up dosen't mean we had to sign a scrub to the full MLE.
I know it really sucks....I sure hope Salmons proves us all wrong and is a super stud multi position player to warrant his contract. It really also sucks that I cannot remember seeing or hearing about this guy and now he is supposed to be this great multi position player that we paid $25.5M/5 years on??? It is great having a player with versatility to play multiple positions, but then we need to trim the roster on the backup overlap of that player. We cannot be 4 deep at PG (Bibby, Salmons, Hart, Price, ???Douby who we are said to be grooming for PG???). Garcia then would be our backup to Artest and Salmons after that I think? I rather have Bonzi as backup SF after Artest and then have him starting or backing up SG. Maybe he is humble enough to accept a backup position behind Artest and start occasionally at SG, but with now having Salmons that seems like a very distant possibility and awful redundant. :mad:
 
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Salmons isn't really a scrub. He's a decent player. There is a reason why two of the better GM's in the league were chasing after him.

Granted he's not worth that contract, that said...he's still solid..and can provide play at PG, SG, and SF.
 
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ezekielbear said:
Salmons isn't really a scrub. He's a decent player. There is a reason why two of the better GM's in the league were chasing after him.

Granted he's not worth that contract, that said...he's still solid..and can provide play at PG, SG, and SF.
John Salmons is not a scrub nor is he solid hes a average to none Basketball player like i said if we could've payed Salmons at a reasonable price "HE" deserves then i would've support it. but to overpay him is not what we needed let Bricklayer explain how he feels about John " i score 5 points and i'm happy " Salmons.

hes not worth the contract he was given thus it makes the signing BAD.
 

VF21

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John Salmons is not a scrub nor is he solid hes a average to none Basketball player like i said if we could've payed Salmons at a reasonable price "HE" deserves then i would've support it. but to overpay him is not what we needed let Bricklayer explain how he feels about John " i score 5 points and i'm happy " Salmons.

hes not worth the contract he was given thus it makes the signing BAD.
John Salmons is very excited about coming to the Kings and I think people are going to be surprised about how well he fits in. This idea that his past performance is total proof of how he'll act in Sacramento is silly, considering how often players have come to the Kings and played their very best ball ever.

You don't know if he's worth the contract or not.
 
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VF21 said:
John Salmons is very excited about coming to the Kings and I think people are going to be surprised about how well he fits in. This idea that his past performance is total proof of how he'll act in Sacramento is silly, considering how often players have come to the Kings and played their very best ball ever.

You don't know if he's worth the contract or not.
That is true i hope you're right with the way he was payed there is nothing we can do but to support the signing and hope for the best :D
 

HndsmCelt

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Folks this is not about Bonzi or really even about Salmons. How many times does a GM have to sit down with any particular palyer to negotiate a contract? Usually once, maybe twice and very very rarely three or more times. But how many times will a GM have to negoitate with a particular AGENT? Depending on how good the agent is and how large his stabel is at least every 2-3 years. More to the point Sports Agents are a small tight group. If one farts every one else knows what he had for brekfast in minuets.

Once Bonzi's agent proved himself to be unreasonable and GP had made his final offer GP HAD to back that up. The ONLY way to back up this is my final offer is walk away from the table and that also means imediatly finding the best replacement situation in your price range. (the Salmons contract size is a differnt issue all together)

A few things are acomplished here. First, next time arround THIS agent will understand what final offer means and will KNOW not to play games with GP. Second every other agent learns the same lesson. But for this lesson to have ANY teeth in it GP can not give in at all. So unless Bonzi fires his agent and APROACHES the Kings with a deal OR if Bonzi's current agent calls GP OFFERING Bonzi at vet minium for one year (effectively saying I know I blew it and I learend my lesson) there can be no talkes with Bonzi.

Sad, and maybe not even Bonzi's fault directly but thats the way it has to be for GP to be ABLE to make any decent deals in the future. This is COMPLEETLY about Geof's crediblity. Salmons was just the right guy in the right place at the right time. I wish him well.
 
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