Kings need to move on from Barnes.
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Should never have dropped off. Kings fans have been unreasonably fickle lately for some reason. I personally think it's because of the customers the Kings are targeting: new fans who don't get the game. There is a noticeable drop off in the sophistication of Kingsfans recently. Leave it to these Kings fans to shun the one veteran guy who's a team player, does the the little things, is a two way player, a great teammate, doesn't go for stats, and has championship experience. Yeah let's toss that guy to the curb if he has the tiniest of slumps and doesn't make the ESPN highlight reel.
Barnes is not the problem, has never been the problem, and will not be the problem. D Fox has to shoot FTs and the 3 better, Buddy needs to figure out how to contribute to winning as a starter or be OK with being a flamethrower off the bench, and Bagley needs to get healthy and come back moving the ball and playing D. Then we can get an idea of where this team can go.
I would love to re-visit the summer thread we had about Buddy: 1) Is he a 6th man or a starter? 2) Does he deserve starter money? 
From where I'm sitting, he's about 25% overpaid. He should be overjoyed at his good fortune. He got major starter's money for bench work. I call that hitting the jackpot.
From where I'm sitting, he's about 25% overpaid. He should be overjoyed at his good fortune. He got major starter's money for bench work. I call that hitting the jackpot.
I would love to re-visit the summer thread we had about Buddy: 1) Is he a 6th man or a starter? 2) Does he deserve starter money?
From where I'm sitting, he's about 25% overpaid. He should be overjoyed at his good fortune. He got major starter's money for bench work. I call that hitting the jackpot.
From where I'm sitting, he's about 25% overpaid. He should be overjoyed at his good fortune. He got major starter's money for bench work. I call that hitting the jackpot.
I never understood the dislike or apathy toward him. Is he a superstar? No. But he‘s a damn good all-around player. Well above average. He’s the type of two-way player all good teams have and need. He can do a bit of everything. And he‘s a player they can go to in the post when they need a basket late in a game or to end a drought.
Like Corey Joseph, he’s also a player they can expect consistent defensive effort from and that can be trusted to stick to his man in late game situations when a stop is needed.
IDC if he‘s overpaid or not. Really good players, especially 2-way players, are valuable and typically cost a lot.
Like Corey Joseph, he’s also a player they can expect consistent defensive effort from and that can be trusted to stick to his man in late game situations when a stop is needed.
IDC if he‘s overpaid or not. Really good players, especially 2-way players, are valuable and typically cost a lot.
Barnes has played a lot of minutes the last two years including last summer. He was a disappointment when he had to try and do isolation ball (ala Rudy) . Working hard on defense and playing a lot of minutes also will affect the players offensive output in most cases.
Fortunately we have more help lately that allows the load to be spread around and has helped open up Barnes game which has showed as of late.
Fortunately we have more help lately that allows the load to be spread around and has helped open up Barnes game which has showed as of late.
Yep. I'm just talking about the $80 mill that is not related to performance. If he's a sub, you look at the $15 mill/year area, a 25% reduction.
With these stories of Buddy's unhappiness starting to surface, I'm really wondering if some of it has to do with the incentives that you mentioned. It could be hard to reach some of these incentives if he's not a starter. So maybe the retort that Grant is saying on the radio - he's got his money, he should just focus on winning - isn't exactly correct.
IMO, Buddy is in his "rightful" position on this team as the potent 6th man. I continue to be skeptical that we've got the 2G starter of the future in Bogs. Lastly, Bazemore is a perfect stop-gap at the 2G. If he's not a legit starter at the 2G, then he's at least a part of one. I sure hope they sign him up for two to three years.
With these stories of Buddy's unhappiness starting to surface, I'm really wondering if some of it has to do with the incentives that you mentioned. It could be hard to reach some of these incentives if he's not a starter. So maybe the retort that Grant is saying on the radio - he's got his money, he should just focus on winning - isn't exactly correct.
IMO, Buddy is in his "rightful" position on this team as the potent 6th man. I continue to be skeptical that we've got the 2G starter of the future in Bogs. Lastly, Bazemore is a perfect stop-gap at the 2G. If he's not a legit starter at the 2G, then he's at least a part of one. I sure hope they sign him up for two to three years.
He is scoring more points and at a higher clip; so I think it should help him reach his incentives.
If it is a minute reduction, I get some of it. But his D was so bad and he kept making dumb turnovers he should start by being critical towards himself before he starts blaming others (if that is the case).
If it is a minute reduction, I get some of it. But his D was so bad and he kept making dumb turnovers he should start by being critical towards himself before he starts blaming others (if that is the case).
