It's really tired. If Haliburton isn't on a winning team when he gets paid we'll see what all the geniuses say too, though thankfully they won't be here.
[Game] Kings @ Mavericks, 3/05/2022 2pm Pacific 5pm Eastern
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Tetsujin
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Even a Bobby Portis signing would do wonders for the Kings (no offense to Trey Lyles, whose super cheap team option for next season is looking better and better by the game).
serbiangoat
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So was Dinwiddie.
I don't think there is any way we could get Portis.
captain bill
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Seeing as the FO’s first choice has the TWolves back in the playoffs (along with an upgraded roster) I have some trust in them to find the right person
Tetsujin
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I think that, as long as Vivek stays out of Monte's way, the playoff drought ends next season.
If Vivek and his crew do what they have been known to do, we'll have another rebuild on our hands and it won't matter that we traded Tyrese for Sabonis anyways.
Yeah, I was a big fan of Malone right from his first interview and I believed then and continue to believe that there was no basketball-related reason to fire him. They probably could have salvaged things with a decent coaching hire though. I can't imagine a worse pairing of coach and franchise player than George Karl and DeMarcus Cousins.
steelevt
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Well, Fox missed a free throw and had his first turnover at a critical time.
I don't think he made his teammates better today. But yeah 44pt meaningless points in a loss against a Dallas team without Doncic.
At least he is increasing his trade value.
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ShastaKingsFan
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Malone should still be the coach of this team, right now. You can't expect buffoons to make a good hire, after they fired the guy they lucked into
hgut
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Hahahaha I am impressed.
I know who the 3rd spidey will be!
He was. Their lack of size is going to make them matchup dependent (they're screwed whenever they play Denver) but Dinwiddie, Brunson, and Doncic are a lot to handle on the perimeter and they have the shooters around them to punish teams for double-teaming.
Tetsujin
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He's got a player option for next year but it's waaaaaaay under market and the Bucks don't necessarily have the cap space to work out a richer deal without them having to move bigger pieces (hence them trading Donte for half a season of Serge Ibaka so they wouldn't be on the books for his RFA deal).
The Kings have the full MLE to work with this season and enough flexibility to get more room if they'd like. Portis is probably more expensive than the MLE but we'll have to see.
This isn't the strongest free agent class to work with.
hgut
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I don't think that a bounce would have made any difference.
A legit play off team should have won this game by 20pt.
Fair enough! At least they failed quickly. And that's the only nice thing you'll ever hear me say about the Pete D'Alessandro and Chris Mullin front office.
I think he's valuable enough to the Bucks they'd figure out a way to keep him happy. I guess we'll see how the Bucks do in the postseason since it's hard not to think they had an incredible run of good fortune with their matchups last year, but hard to imagine leaving the Bucks for the Kings too.
You said their names which is nicer than I will ever be.
Some would argue that a legit playoff team wouldn't be 24-41 going into this matchup either.
serbiangoat
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Dwight Powell has carved out an unlikely for the most part successful NBA career while not being able to shoot or defend and being grossly undersized I'm impressed tbh by that.
Tetsujin
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I never understood why the hell Carlisle kept him in the starting lineup like he did but Powell's now outlasted him and is still starting for the Mavs to the point that they unloaded Porzingis and kept him starting so there must be something I'm not seeing.
I seriously don't think you can underestimate how much change the team has gone through mid-season. The team literally has 3 dudes still playing who were in the rotation game 1 (4 with Holmes just coming back) and I imagine virtually nothing in their offensive sets translates to playing with a Sabonis archetype. We've seen the offensive bones look amazing at times, but just seriously undisciplined. I imagine an off-season and training camp fixes a good chunk of those problems. Hasn't helped Gentry has looked totally overmatched with handling this rotation.
Fox-Barnes-Sabonis are pretty clear build-arounds
DDV or Mitchell should just be starting at this point over Holiday, but in general, just excellent defensive archetypes the Kings haven't had in forever. Pretty clearly 25-30 MPG type role players.
Holiday-Lyles need to be 8th-9th man types, but should be useful in 12-15 MPG type roles
So basically:
Fox || Mitchell
DDV || ??? (TD?)
??? || Holiday
Barnes || Lyles
Sabonis || Holmes (or Jones/Queta if he's traded)
Kings need a 3/4 flex wing and a bench scorer/4th option, but I do think the bones are here to be good with the right coach pick. Really, that's what Monte has to nail this off-season more than anything.
serbiangoat
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The guy is way worse imo than Kleber (when healthy) and he's managed to beat him out as well.
Tetsujin
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I honestly think he's worse than Boban too. I mean, I understand why the Mavs can't play Boban too often while they can play Powell but from a pure basketball skill standpoint, I'd take Boban 10 times out of 10.
serbiangoat
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Dwight Powell is basically a SF with zero skills it's amazing what he's achieved.
kb02
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Kings lost though they should’ve won. It was basically the Kings against a bunch of average, at best, NBA players. Yhall saying Fox had a good game. Dude took 31 shots to get 44 points. THIRTY ONE shots. At what point will yhall get over the raw stats based on volume and evaluate him on whether he helps his team win.
44 points on 31 shots is good dude, jesus christ. You can't pretend to be a math guy and still have a take like this.
Also, go ahead and tell the class why Fox lost the Kings this game.
Tetsujin
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Especially when you factor in the fact he somehow only had 6 free throws all game.
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