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Rambis just did so horribly with the Lakers in that first go-round, even if he did have a winning record. Phil Jackson came in and benefitted from another year of experience from Kobe, but the difference between those pre-Jackson Laker teams and post-Jackson was so stark.

I mean, I don't remember every short stint by every coach in the league, but I particularly remember the Rambis Lakers looking like a complete mess.
 
fnordius said:
I'm really encouraged that Van Gundy is all scheduled and ready to go. Can't say that I ever believed that "time off with the family" would last much more than a year, but this makes it official.
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man, i'm just glad stan's alive and has been found! :p
 
nbrans said:
Rambis just did so horribly with the Lakers in that first go-round, even if he did have a winning record. Phil Jackson came in and benefitted from another year of experience from Kobe, but the difference between those pre-Jackson Laker teams and post-Jackson was so stark.

I mean, I don't remember every short stint by every coach in the league, but I particularly remember the Rambis Lakers looking like a complete mess.
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Well to be fair Shaq was not in favor of Rambis coaching. He was in a horrible situation. Also Rambis played a big part in LA ending the Rodman experiment.
 
Miles and Miles said:
Are they interviewing John Whisnit (sp?, former Monarchs coach)? Or did they burn that bridge? I just assume they would since he seemed so close to getting the job last year.

As soon as Jeff Van Gundy leaves the Rockets I would assume that we will hear murmurs of him being interviewed too.
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I doubt we'll be interviewing JVG, only because he really doesnt seem like the 'type' of coach we're looking into...and as many as are on the list of candidates, I think that GP has a general idea as to what he wants, and sees a little of that in all of the guys he's bringing in for interviews. At the same time, I think that a few of these guys probably approached Geoff, and not the other way around...which is very Muss-ish, and since GP is the one making this choice, HE wont make the same mistake the Maloof family did in making theirs. Out of all these guys, I'd say Porter, Theus and Stan Van Gundy might be considered frontrunners, and either of them would be fine with me.
 
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Circa_1985_Fan said:
I doubt we'll be interviewing JVG, only because he really doesnt seem like the 'type' of coach we're looking into...and as many as are on the list of candidates, I think that GP has a general idea as to what he wants, and sees a little of that in all of the guys he's bringing in for interviews. At the same time, I think that a few of these guys probably approached Geoff, and not the other way around...which is very Muss-ish, and since GP is the one making this choice, HE wont make the same mistake the Maloof family did in making theirs. Out of all these guys, I'd say Porter, Theus and Stan Van Gundy might be considered frontrunners, and either of them would be fine with me.
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Jeff isn't coaching for a while. He already said that he wanted to keep his family in houston until his kids graduate from high school.

I expect him to be in the broadcast booth for a few years.
 
Well, Indiana desperately wants him, and has indicated that they are no longer interested in Theus, but SVG hasn't accepted anything yet. We are the only other team which has been OKed to interview him, so we will only not have a shot at him if the front office sits on their hands and ponders things for ages. Now, that does happen to be one of the things our FO does best, but I really hope they don't do it this time. If we lose SVG, it's basically Carlisle, whose style I can't stand, or some noob.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
I doubt we'll be interviewing JVG, only because he really doesnt seem like the 'type' of coach we're looking into...and as many as are on the list of candidates, I think that GP has a general idea as to what he wants, and sees a little of that in all of the guys he's bringing in for interviews. At the same time, I think that a few of these guys probably approached Geoff, and not the other way around...which is very Muss-ish, and since GP is the one making this choice, HE wont make the same mistake the Maloof family did in making theirs. Out of all these guys, I'd say Porter, Theus and Stan Van Gundy might be considered frontrunners, and either of them would be fine with me.
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Petrie made the choice on Muss.
 
Kingster said:
Petrie made the choice on Muss.
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No, he didn't. As Smills91 pointed out, Petrie got the Maloofs to consider other alternatives to Whisenant. It was the FAMILY MALOOF decision to hire Eric Musselman, not Geoff Petrie's ...
 
I have a feeling that ol' #30 will be our next head coach...just a gut feeling. He has a good pedigree in the coaches he has played/learned from(Adelman, Riley, Popovich, Ramsey). He's young, yet poised, through experience, and his relationship with Geoff both as a player and coach for him over the last 22 years(14 total for Geoff's teams) I think will make him a frontrunner, if not THE frontrunner. Do I like the idea of him as coach more than any of the others? Tough to say, at this point...there's a lot of grey areas with this franchise right now that Geoff has to try and bring some new life to...and its tough to say who, out of all those guys, would be right for this job.
 
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Circa_1985_Fan said:
I have a feeling that ol' #30 will be our next head coach...just a gut feeling. He has a good pedigree in the coaches he has played/learned from(Adelman, Riley, Popovich, Ramsey). He's young, yet poised, through experience, and his relationship with Geoff both as a player and coach for him over the last 22 years(14 total for Geoff's teams) I think will make him a frontrunner, if not THE frontrunner. Do I like the idea of him as coach more than any of the others? Tough to say, at this point...there's a lot of grey areas with this franchise right now that Geoff has to try and bring some new life to...and its tough to say who, out of all those guys, would be right for this job.
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Who is #30?



edit: Sorry I forgot it's Terry Porter right?
 
VF21 said:
No, he didn't. As Smills91 pointed out, Petrie got the Maloofs to consider other alternatives to Whisenant. It was the FAMILY MALOOF decision to hire Eric Musselman, not Geoff Petrie's ...
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I posted this on 06-03-2006, 01:44 PM

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13083&page=2

"Another interesting tidbit was that Musselman was a Maloof choice all the way. Petrie said there was a 6-0 vote for his hiring. It was not 7-0 meaning the seventh person as Petrie. How do you all feel about that?"
 
Warhawk said:
Congratulations - want a cookie or gold star? :rolleyes:

We were all aware of this....
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Since Mike0476 spoke directly with Joe and Gavin, I think his imput was relevant.

:)

I think Mike was just co-signing those of us who disagreed with Kingster (post #41) when he said Musselman was Petrie's decision.
 
VF21 said:
I think Mike was just co-signing those of us who disagreed with Kingster (post #41) when he said Musselman was Petrie's decision.
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That's exactly what I was trying to do.

Oh and I would like a cookie...chocolate chip please...fresh out of the oven. :D
 
VF21 said:
No, he didn't. As Smills91 pointed out, Petrie got the Maloofs to consider other alternatives to Whisenant. It was the FAMILY MALOOF decision to hire Eric Musselman, not Geoff Petrie's ...
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Petrie is the invisible man. He wasn't there when the coaching candidates were interviewed. He didn't exist when the list was compiled. He didn't have influence over who was on the list. He didn't comment when the Maloofs wanted Whis. He wasn't there when Muss was added to the list. Petrie is hologram, an empty vessel reflecting the best wishes of all, and responsible for nothing.
 
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Kingster said:
Petrie is the invisible man. He wasn't there when the coaching candidates were interviewed. He didn't exist when the list was compiled. He didn't have influence over who was on the list. He didn't comment when the Maloofs wanted Whis. He wasn't there when Muss was added to the list. Petrie is hologram, an empty vessel reflecting the best wishes of all, and responsible for nothing.
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It's been well-documented that Musselman wasn't Petrie's first choice.
 
Kingster said:
Petrie is the invisible man. He wasn't there when the coaching candidates were interviewed. He didn't exist when the list was compiled. He didn't have influence over who was on the list. He didn't comment when the Maloofs wanted Whis. He wasn't there when Muss was added to the list. Petrie is hologram, an empty vessel reflecting the best wishes of all, and responsible for nothing.
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That wasn't my point.

The Maloofs own the team. They wanted Adelman gone and they wanted to pick his successor. Period. The family wanted to promote their friend John Whisenant to the position. Petrie was able to convince them to at least look at a few other candidates when Whisenant shot himself in the foot with a couple of ill-timed comments in the press that reportedly didn't sit well with the family.

The Maloofs conducted the interviews and, after Musselman blew them away in his interview with power point presentations, binders, etc. the family voted 6-0 to hire him. George, Joe, Gavin, Phil, Colleen and Adrienne were the six people casting the votes.

Geoff Petrie wasn't really part of the process. He is part of the process THIS time partially because of how "well" the last selection turned out.
 
Koz last night evidently said that Terry Porter will most likely be the Kings Head Coach. The Rise Guys are trying to get him on this morning for his usual slot.
 
VF21 said:
That wasn't my point.

The Maloofs own the team. They wanted Adelman gone and they wanted to pick his successor. Period. The family wanted to promote their friend John Whisenant to the position. Petrie was able to convince them to at least look at a few other candidates when Whisenant shot himself in the foot with a couple of ill-timed comments in the press that reportedly didn't sit well with the family.

The Maloofs conducted the interviews and, after Musselman blew them away in his interview with power point presentations, binders, etc. the family voted 6-0 to hire him. George, Joe, Gavin, Phil, Colleen and Adrienne were the six people casting the votes.

Geoff Petrie wasn't really part of the process. He is part of the process THIS time partially because of how "well" the last selection turned out.
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Sure, and this time it will be the Maloofs decision - ultimate decision - just like last time. And last time Petrie steered them to Muss as an alternative to Whis, right? He is responsible for providing that alternative, right? And he is responsible for determining the number of candidates contacted and interviewed, right? If not, then what the heck does Petrie do? Does he consult with the Maloofs on who they want him to interview? On how many candidates they want him to interview? On the questions that they want him to ask? Is he simply their conduit, or does he have a voice in the matter? My view is that he was responsible as much as the Maloofs. He did have input on who and how many were interviewed. He framed the interview. If I'm wrong, then I guess he's simply the Maloof's puppet.
 
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Well if it wasn't Whis and it wasn't Muss, then who was it?
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It was a simple, and dimwitted process last time:

a) the Maloofs canned Adelman, because he was a convenient scapegoat for them and wouldn't consult them and stroke them and make them feel important and involved.

b) the Maloofs did this with the obvious preplanned intention of immediately hiring their WNBA coach/old family friend/suck up John Whisenhart, who other than the WNBA had some really nifty AAU experience, was once an assistant coach in college.

c) Geoff was not involved in either maneuver, and appeared to be trying to stay out of the mess and not get pulled down into the Maloofs pique himself.

d) But with Whiz all but hired solely by Maloof whim (some reports that it was Mama Maloof who really had a crush on him), it seems Geoff stepped up to suggest to the Maloofs that they really should go through some pretense of a real hiring process rather than actin on impulse. And then I think it was Geoff himself who sneakily put together a short list of guys for the Maloofs to interview in the hopes that one of them would catch their eye and turn them away from the Whiz boondoggle. Unfortunately the one who did was Eric Musselman, after which we got to hear all about how great the Maloofs were at picking good candidates to hire because they did it all as a family etc. etc. et.c (from the Maloofs of course). At BEST, Muss was thrown up by Geoff (along with Mario Elie...and I think there might have been one more?) as a last ditch effort to try to distract the Maloofs from making a laughingstock out of their team. Which does not mean that Geoff had no regard whatsoever for Muss -- indeed, at the time he was considered one of the young coaches around the league likely to get a second shot at it. But it does mean that in no way was it indicated that Muss would have been the guy Geoff would have hired if he was running the process or in any way doing anything except just trying to save the Maloofs from themselves.
 
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slugking50 said:
Koz last night evidently said that Terry Porter will most likely be the Kings Head Coach. The Rise Guys are trying to get him on this morning for his usual slot.
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Why is everyone sold on Terry Porter? When he coached the Bucks, his record was 41-41 and the 2nd year was 31-53 or something like that.
 
Rockmeister said:
Why is everyone sold on Terry Porter? When he coached the Bucks, his record was 41-41 and the 2nd year was 31-53 or something like that.
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I think he is a legit candidate, but I've noted the record last time too. Looks a lot like Muss's pre-Kings record actually. Different though: has deep ties to Geoff, former assistant for us under Adelman (who he played for), former player, leader as a player, and so far as I know not a guy who lost his team last time.. Now as I recall they sucked defensively, but then again they weren't very talented.

Thing is that such a move would seem to be Geoff very clearly steering the ship back into the Adelman era with an Adelman protege, with likely many of the same strengths and weaknesses. A more natural transition, almost like hiring one of Rick's assistants (which Porter was of course) with just the one year delay in between. Wonder how the Maloofs would feel about that? And wonder if that's what we really want to do?
 
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