[Game] Kings at Pelicans, Monday April 12th, 6 PM Pacific (9 PM Eastern)

dude12

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Monte may have already landed 2 rotation players in second round picks in Woodard and Ramsey. Walton won’t play them though. I suspect Woodard is a keeper but we won’t know this year.
 
Monte may have already landed 2 rotation players in second round picks in Woodard and Ramsey. Walton won’t play them though. I suspect Woodard is a keeper but we won’t know this year.
He may have. Though him feeling he needed help at the trade deadline for the position they play was not a positive sign.
 
Not sure how people can compare the Hawks and the Kings talent wise. Granted the difference in talent is on Vlade but it is significant.

Even if you assume Trae/Bogi is slightly worse then Fox/Buddy (Must at real GM would call it better) the difference in the front court is significant.

Capella (15.3) versus Holmes (14.1)
Collins (18.2) versus Bagley (13.9)
Hunter (16.0) versus Barnes (15.5)

Not to mention Gallo (13.4) or Reddish (11.2) versus
Metu and Bjelicia.

Our front court players with maybe Barnes being an exception would struggle to get minutes in their rotation barring injury.
I'm not sure how anyone can't see the situational comparisons. When you are dead in the water from the neck up as a team and need a boost it's one of the few things you can pull off. It just is regardless of the other things. Dead in the water doesn't consider talent it wants change and the locker room and more specifically the voice of that locker room is a good starting point. Especially considering the holdover coach part of it for the Kings. Coming into the year with that hanging overhead was stupid. Sitting and squandering more time before they hopefully pick it back up once Fox gets his 4th wind is even more stupid.
 
I'm not sure how anyone can't see the situational comparisons. When you are dead in the water from the neck up as a team and need a boost it's one of the few things you can pull off. It just is regardless of the other things. Dead in the water doesn't consider talent it wants change and the locker room and more specifically the voice of that locker room is a good starting point. Especially considering the holdover coach part of it for the Kings. Coming into the year with that hanging overhead was stupid. Sitting and squandering more time before they hopefully pick it back up once Fox gets his 4th wind is even more stupid.
Depends if you think that boost gets you to the 4 seed like Atlanta or just missing the playoffs again like the Kings.
 

dude12

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He may have. Though him feeling he needed help at the trade deadline for the position they play was not a positive sign.
Vivek wants to make the playoffs, so you go get vets for the rotation and then he got younger guys who fit the timeline. You could say it wasn’t a positive sign if Woodard and Ramsey were playing big minutes and Monte felt he needed to replace them in the rotation. That isn’t the case here. Walton just refuses to bring these guys along.
 
Vivek wants to make the playoffs, so you go get vets for the rotation and then he got younger guys who fit the timeline. You could say it wasn’t a positive sign if Woodard and Ramsey were playing big minutes and Monte felt he needed to replace them in the rotation. That isn’t the case here. Waltons just refuses to bring these guys along.
“That isn’t the case here. Waltons just refuses to bring these guys along.”

You have been told this by a person in the know or you are just speculating?
 
Let’s see
Woodard has played 29 total minutes on the entire season
Ramsey has played less but Woodard was the one more ready

Is this what you consider as bringing the young players along?
Depends if you think they are NBA level players. Woodard had good games in the G-League but they weren’t really skills that would translate. He was not likely to get the offensive put backs against Capella.

I guess it strikes me as crazy to think Monte has no input on a team where he is the President of Basketball Operations.
 
Monte may have already landed 2 rotation players in second round picks in Woodard and Ramsey. Walton won’t play them though. I suspect Woodard is a keeper but we won’t know this year.
Just like he landed quality rotation players at the deadline (Harkless/Davis/Wright) who were going to help the Kings make a push for the playoffs, there is zero proof or evidence that Woodard or Ramsey are NBA players let alone rotation players. Still waiting on Harry "C-Webb" Giles and 3 & D Gabriel to come through.
 

hrdboild

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Just like he landed quality rotation players at the deadline (Harkless/Davis/Wright) who were going to help the Kings make a push for the playoffs, there is zero proof or evidence that Woodard or Ramsey are NBA players let alone rotation players. Still waiting on Harry "C-Webb" Giles and 3 & D Gabriel to come through.
To be fair, Woodard and Ramsey had no training camp to speak of after the entire world spent most of 2020 in lockdown (meaning no organized basketball of any kind for 9 months). And it's part-way through their first season in which they've played a grand total of 46 minutes combined. They haven't been put in any kind of position to succeed or fail yet. They're just names on the roster. We probably won't see much of them next season either unless someone gets injured or they start dominating in practice. Such is the life of a second round pick in the NBA.
 
Depends if you think that boost gets you to the 4 seed like Atlanta or just missing the playoffs again like the Kings.
A boost is a boost. When you are attempting to win you do what you have to otherwise you're sitting on a fence watching franchises pass you by heading in both directions.
 
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