[News] Kings and Schroder agree on three year 45 million dollar contract. No sign and trade

kingdivac said:
Kings muffing up again .... better to keep Lyles than sign Schroder. Also cheaper. No bueno. Lyles has been a consistent bench player.
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I don't have any bone to pick with Lyles but my understanding reading the boards, twitter, reddit, etc is most people can't wait to show Lyles the door.
 
Tetsujin said:
Kings fans hate Kings players until it’s time to tease them in which case they must be kept from getting traded at all costs.
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I've been saying for years that Kings fans don't have what it takes to get the rebuild they claim they want and it seems pretty clear we're heading in that direction right now and the groans have already begun for the minor moves.
 
Padrino said:
I'm waiting to see what the Kings do with DeMar. By all accounts, it seems like there's not much interest in moving him. I have no idea what's a smoke screen and what isn't these days, but if Schroder and Westbrook are representative of Perry's "type", than DeMar is certainly his type, as well. If so, we can look forward to a lot of slow, plodding, ugly basketball that once again marginalizes Domas' value to the team and reduces Keegan's opportunities to develop offensively. I'm really hoping Perry has a plan, and I'm really hoping that plan involves prioritizing the good young talent that's already on the roster, but I remain discouraged by what I'm seeing right now.
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I agree. Not impressed so far. Really hoping there is more up Perry’s sleeve.

If we trot out a team that still has DeMar, LaVine, and Sabonis on it then this offseason will be a failure. Especially since we added Dennis… and possibly might add Westbrook?

I was hoping we would focus on giving the younger guys that play defense opportunities and clearing out older guys that are in the way.

Instead we are adding more vets to get in the way while not moving the needle in terms of playoff chances.

I can’t imagine Perry is good with that. Has to be planning something… right?
 
kingdivac said:
Lavine has no culture of defense - he looks like he's been snake-bit by his earlier injuries and doesn't wanna mix it up. . And the Kangz swooped in to get "something".
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My point was that this guy who is barely a league average PG, if that, isn't going to come in and change the culture when you have all stars and hall of famers on the roster who are all 5x better than he is.
 
Tetsujin said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1940104764815286364
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The problem with George and others. On one hand they say Demar is better than Monk (insinuating better trade value). They all suddenly shifted mind set for Monk to go in the schroder deal, and we should accept his value is just low.
Monk is 27 and a fan favorite and makes sabonis better.
Demar is 36, overwhelmingly disliked by fans and makes sabonis worse.

I think Kings fans would be totally fine swapping Demar for nothing. So yes Matt, maybe his value is better at the deadline, that same mentality applies to Monk who makes less and would be way easier to fit into a contenders plans.
 
kingdivac said:
Lavine has no culture of defense - he looks like he's been snake-bit by his earlier injuries and doesn't wanna mix it up. . And the Kangz swooped in to get "something".
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If it keeps LaVine healthy, I'm okay with less than stellar defense from him. Luka plays zero defense, but he is spectacular on offense.

Now we need to surround LaVine with defensive players to make this thing work out. LaVine is a special and very efficient scorer, let him score and surround him with defense.
 
Tetsujin said:
But can you accept negative value? If a team is going to ask for your picks to take on LaVine’s salary, you’re better off just keeping him.
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Yep why I never took Jamal’s bet. If it’s negative value, which I think it is, then you just keep him. The fact we can’t trade any of Monte’s assets for positive value is a pretty big indictment of the previous org.
 
TheMobb said:
Respectfully disagree with this. Lyles is barely a rotation player at this point. Schroder is a solid starter.
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I'd say hes been a consistently underwhelming yet fine backup. If Lyles is your 9th/10th guy thats fine. Hes been the 7th guy here and hasn't really justified that role. There's a reason he hasn't been signed yet and will probably not have a promised when the season starts
 
pdxKingsFan said:
I've been saying for years that Kings fans don't have what it takes to get the rebuild they claim they want and it seems pretty clear we're heading in that direction right now and the groans have already begun for the minor moves.
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Not really. More why sign Dennis to block your young kids from playing time and in what century are we going to address the front court issues?
 
Padrino said:
I'm waiting to see what the Kings do with DeMar. By all accounts, it seems like there's not much interest in moving him. I have no idea what's a smoke screen and what isn't these days, but if Schroder and Westbrook are representative of Perry's "type", than DeMar is certainly his type, as well. If so, we can look forward to a lot of slow, plodding, ugly basketball that once again marginalizes Domas' value to the team and reduces Keegan's opportunities to develop offensively. I'm really hoping Perry has a plan, and I'm really hoping that plan involves prioritizing the good young talent that's already on the roster, but I remain discouraged by what I'm seeing right now.
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You and me both. He's the key to what happens to this roster because of the lousy fit, the lousy defense, and like you say if he isn't shipped then Murray is going to be odd man out, which is exactly the opposite direction this team should go. I'd be selling DDR for a 2nd round pick in 2030 at this point if I had to. He has got to go.
 
sactowndog said:
Not really. More why sign Dennis to block your young kids from playing time and in what century are we going to address the front court issues?
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Because we don't have a PG on this team. Maybe Carter can get there but he's not a starting PG this year.

I feel like you can just wing it with youth at every position except that one.
 
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