Kevin Martin
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kennadog, the prosecution rests.schaffeb said:
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VF21 said:Just to clarify - that's A-ONE, like the sauce.
Thanks! I can tell my eyes are tired -- the first time I read it I saw AI instead of A1 and was thinking, what? he wants to be Iverson?
I think I need some sleep!VF21 said:
I'm sorry, I just don't like his game. He's another shooting guard who can't shoot as evidenced by his horrific shooting percentages.
He's had what, 3 solid games this year? That makes him a player?
If I'm a troll you must be a homer. Can we be a little bit objective here?
I don't know if WE can be objective. I can be but I'm not at all sure about you. Kevin is in his second year on the Kings. He played very little last year so he's only one step removed from being a rookie.
Horrific shooting percentages? I suggest you look at his stats.
I'm not going to argue with you. I know what my eyes have seen and I think the majority of people around here will agree with me. I really don't give a rat's patoot about what you think about Kevin. Since you've admitted in previous posts that you've seen very few games, I might wonder what your comments are based on. But that would mean I was actually interested in a response.
Go ahead. You're not going to rain on Martin's parade. Have a nice evening and a Happy New Year.
P.S. And yes, I am a KINGS homer. To the bone. Have been for over 20 years. And proud of it.
Horrific shooting percentages? I suggest you look at his stats.
I'm not going to argue with you. I know what my eyes have seen and I think the majority of people around here will agree with me. I really don't give a rat's patoot about what you think about Kevin. Since you've admitted in previous posts that you've seen very few games, I might wonder what your comments are based on. But that would mean I was actually interested in a response.
Go ahead. You're not going to rain on Martin's parade. Have a nice evening and a Happy New Year.
P.S. And yes, I am a KINGS homer. To the bone. Have been for over 20 years. And proud of it.
Dreadnought
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schaffeb said:
Call me a biased fan but...
41% is pretty good. Thats assuming he hits 4 out of every 10 shots, and when scorers like kobe bryant have 43% (who also had 41 and 42% his first and 2nd year) id say hes on the right track for now. Give him time to grow. I dont think any other 2nd year player right now is progressing as fast as he is as of now.
More like nine, which really isn't bad when you consider that he didn't play at all in five games, and played fewer than five minutes in six others. That leaves seventeen games; he's played "solidly" in nine out of seventeen games. That beats anybody else we've got coming off the bench, and possibly a starter or two...schaffeb said:
I noticed the stats that you cited to make the case that Martin is a bad player; here's a rebuttal stat: Martin is averaging 11.1 ppg, on 46.3% shooting when playing at least 15 minutes.
Conclusion: the kid may have just needed more time.
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Hey, Schaffeb has the right to an opinion. That opinion differs a great deal from mine, but thats neither here nor there. 
SacTownKid said:Hey, Schaffeb has the right to an opinion. That opinion differs a great deal from mine, but thats neither here nor there.
There's a difference between having an opinion and making a post that starts with "I hate to be negative but..." and then proceeds to bash one of our own players.
And you've been around long enough to know that we really don't need to get off-topic and debate about whether or not someone has the right to bash our own players around here.
This isn't about you, schaffeb. You came to a thread that was celebrating one of our own players excellent performances and have tried to derail it. It's not going to continue. We - the Kings fans who are here all the time - have a right to celebrate seeing an excellent performance without someone like you raining on the parade. Period.
It's funny you say that...schaffeb said:
Because I distinctly recall people saying that about Stojakovic early in his NBA career (career 46% shooter) as well as Shawn Marion (career 47% shooter).
Shooting mechanics are overrated. If it goes in, it goes in.
Yes.schaffeb said:
I'm going to get this thread back on track.
Having watched Kevin from his first start as a King back in the pre-season of 2004-2005 (when he started for Doug Christie), I am very proud of what he has accomplished. I don't get to see many games in person but I have watched EVERY single game he's played and I think what we saw tonight is more in tune with what he's capable of and WHY Geoff Petrie drafted him.
People sometimes forget that Petrie picked him for a reason. He saw something in him he liked - a lot. I think we are just beginning to see and understand.
Way to go, Kevin!!!
Having watched Kevin from his first start as a King back in the pre-season of 2004-2005 (when he started for Doug Christie), I am very proud of what he has accomplished. I don't get to see many games in person but I have watched EVERY single game he's played and I think what we saw tonight is more in tune with what he's capable of and WHY Geoff Petrie drafted him.
People sometimes forget that Petrie picked him for a reason. He saw something in him he liked - a lot. I think we are just beginning to see and understand.
Way to go, Kevin!!!
Well, I can't speak for VF21, but as for me, the umbrage has more to do with you hijakcing the thread for six posts before it even occurred to you to think/ask about the board's ettiquitte.schaffeb said:
EDIT- It is also possible that that is the primary source of the "troll" branding...
