JJ suspended for not reporting (merged AGAIN)

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Jim Jackson Not Reporting

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3283094

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The New Orleans Hornets suspended Jim Jackson indefinitely on Wednesday for not reporting to the team, two days after he was acquired from Houston in a trade.


Jackson, who plays guard and forward, was acquired from the Rockets along with forward Bostjan Nachbar for guard David Wesley.


The trade will not be affected by Jackson's suspension, the Hornets said in a statement Wednesday. Nachbar was available for the New Orleans' home game Wednesday night against Phoenix.

Jackson has played with Dallas, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Golden State, Portland, Atlanta, Cleveland, Miami and Sacramento, in addition to Houston, where he signed as a free agent before last season. He had averaged 13.3 points and 4.8 rebounds in 24 games with the Rockets this season.

Maybe the Kings CAN pick him up...
 
S

stifeler

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#4
that sucks!!

I feel so bad for Jim Jack. He was a starter in houston now he probably wants to retire right? tough break...
 
#7
I would start him in Sacramento just to stir up Peja and Doug. Alternate each night between SM and SG. See if Peja is better off the bench. Maybe make Peja pull at least 8 rebounds per night for the honor of starting.
 
#9
Jim Jackson has come across as a bright, intellegent person, who knows exactly what he wants. This dude will retire first, before he goes to a 2-72 team. I don't know why Houston traded him in the first place.


Work your magic Petrie, we need Jimmy Jackson!!!!!!
 

Bricklayer

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#10
And people wonder why he has a bad rep around the league. :rolleyes:


If we didn't have a personal interest in this we'd be all shaking our heads and saying what a turd he was being....again.

In any case, could work out for us -- experienced and toguh SF/OG backup. But it will be tough.

Third time I am mentioning this: In order for the Kings to trade for Jim Jackson we will need to match salaries. Because of the size of his salary that means trading away Darius Songaila AND either Matt Barnes, Maurice Evans or Kevin Martin to get him.

The only way we can get him for "free" is if New Orleans buys out his contract. But why they would do that I don't know.
 
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Bricklayer said:
And people wonder why he has a bad rep around the league. :rolleyes:


If we didn't have a personal interest in this we'd be all shaking our heads and saying what a turd he was being....again.

In any case, could work out for us -- experienced and toguh SF/OG backup. But it will be tough.

Third time I am mentioning this: In order for the Kings to trade for Jim Jackson we will need to match salaries. Because of the size of his salary that means trading away Darius Songaila AND either Matt Barnes, Maurice Evans or Kevin Martin to get him.

The only way we can get him for "free" is if New Orleans buys out his contract. But why they would do that I don't know.
Darnit... reality can be so annoying at times.
 

VF21

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Bricklayer said:
And people wonder why he has a bad rep around the league. :rolleyes:


If we didn't have a personal interest in this we'd be all shaking our heads and saying what a turd he was being....again.

In any case, could work out for us -- experienced and toguh SF/OG backup. But it will be tough.

Third time I am mentioning this: In order for the Kings to trade for Jim Jackson we will need to match salaries. Because of the size of his salary that means trading away Darius Songaila AND either Matt Barnes, Maurice Evans or Kevin Martin to get him.

The only way we can get him for "free" is if New Orleans buys out his contract. But why they would do that I don't know.
Sorry, big guy ... but I disagree with you.

JJ did well here, and from all reports he did well in Houston. So, to continue to talk about his bad rep is bringing up ancient history IMHO...

As far as him not wanting to report to the Hornets, I think it's his choice to make. He signed to play with Houston and, from all I've seen, had every reason to believe he'd be staying there. After all the hard work he put in to conquer his attitude problems, etc. I think this trade totally blindsided him and he simply chose NOT to have to pick up stakes and move to New Orleans. It is his choice - since it doesn't affect the trade I cannot see why he's being cast as the villian. He's a veteran player who has spent way too much time jumping from team to team. I think he finally just decided enough was enough... especially after doing a good job for the Rockets and being traded to the black hole of the NBA...

Having said all that, I would welcome him back to the Kings with open arms.
 

VF21

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As far as the money goes:

New Orleans trades: Jimmy Jackson (No games yet played in 2004/05)
PG Dan Dickau (9.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 21.8 minutes)
New Orleans receives: PG Bobby Jackson (11.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 21.7 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.3 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

Sacramento trades: PG Bobby Jackson (11.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 21.7 minutes)
Sacramento receives: Jimmy Jackson (No games yet played in 2004/05)
PG Dan Dickau (9.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 21.8 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -2.3 ppg, -1.4 rpg, and +0.5 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Hey, it may not be the best solution but the money works... ;)
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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yes, because we're all suportive when a prima donna athlete such as, oh, Mitch Richmond or Chris Webber or Eli Manning or Gary Payton decides hes better than the struggling team he gets traded to and decides to be unprofessional and **** them over?

That's B.S. A turd is a turd is a turd, "understandable" or not. Just because we suddenly may benefit doesn't suddenly make his conduct alright. We've been on the other side of this one, and may be again.
 

VF21

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#15
My reasoning, besides the money?

Bobby is injured. We don't know if he'll be coming back or how well he'll be able to play. He has an expiring contract, which should make him attractive to the Hornets.

We get JJ and a backup PG. The Hornets get Bobby. If he doesn't heal, they're not out much because JJ wasn't going to report to them anyway. If he does heal, he can negotiate a new deal...

Okay, I'm ready... Let the screaming begin.
 

Bricklayer

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Jimmy Jackson cannot be traded along with another player for two months after having just been traded to the Hornets. And two months from now is after the trade deadline. So he has to be moved by himself.


And for Bobby???? Now that's just taking the JJ-lovin' too far. Wouldn't mind having him back, but he's got to come cheap to make it worth our while.
 
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VF21 said:
Sorry, big guy ... but I disagree with you.

JJ did well here, and from all reports he did well in Houston. So, to continue to talk about his bad rep is bringing up ancient history IMHO...

As far as him not wanting to report to the Hornets, I think it's his choice to make. He signed to play with Houston and, from all I've seen, had every reason to believe he'd be staying there. After all the hard work he put in to conquer his attitude problems, etc. I think this trade totally blindsided him and he simply chose NOT to have to pick up stakes and move to New Orleans. It is his choice - since it doesn't affect the trade I cannot see why he's being cast as the villian. He's a veteran player who has spent way too much time jumping from team to team. I think he finally just decided enough was enough... especially after doing a good job for the Rockets and being traded to the black hole of the NBA...

Having said all that, I would welcome him back to the Kings with open arms.
Well said.....absolutely, ditto. Would be a welcomed addition to this club. He is the attitude that this team desperately needs. If we didn't have a personal interest in this, maybe we would be saying what a bad guy he is. But we all know the history here. Houston was JJ's choice and he was playing well for them, only to ship him to Siberia. He is suspended and is paying a price for it. I do not condone the inmates running the assylum, but in this case the Jackson has been sent to Alcatraz for no reason at all.
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus

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Bricklayer said:
yes, because we're all suportive when a prima donna athlete such as, oh, Mitch Richmond or Chris Webber or Eli Manning or Gary Payton decides hes better than the struggling team he gets traded to and decides to be unprofessional and **** them over?

That's B.S. A turd is a turd is a turd, "understandable" or not. Just because we suddenly may benefit doesn't suddenly make his conduct alright. We've been on the other side of this one, and may be again.
Hrmm... I was beginning to think that I was the only person who felt this way...
 

VF21

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Bricklayer said:
Jimmy Jackson cannot be traded along with another player for two months after having just been traded to the Hornets. And two months from now is after the trade deadline. So he has to be moved by himself...
Oh yeah... forgot about that little fly in the ointment.

Never mind.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Jimmy Jackson cannot be traded along with another player for two months after having just been traded to the Hornets. And two months from now is after the trade deadline. So he has to be moved by himself.
If that is the case, why did Rasheed Wallace play only one game for Atlanta after he was traded from Portland, only to be traded to Detroit? I don't think that rule is true.
 

Bricklayer

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Purple Reign said:
If that is the case, why did Rasheed Wallace play only one game for Atlanta after he was traded from Portland, only to be traded to Detroit? I don't think that rule is true.
The difference is that Rasheed was traded ALONE to Detroit. He could not have been packaged with another Atlanta player in the deal.

Similarly, JJ can be traded ALONE to us, but you can't throw in guys like Dickau (or whoever it might be) along with him. Has to jsut be him.

My guess is that rule is in place to keep teams from trading for guys just to package them with some of their own players in another trade -- i.e. trading for them without any intention of keeping them and thus sending the players bouncing from one team to another around the league.
 
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Problem I have with Bobby being traded? Simple loyalty... Yes I do realize that he wants more money. And I do think that he should be traded. But trading him to the Hornets after all he has done for this organization is simply wrong, and unfair. Not only that, but I don't think JJ is worth Bobby Jackson. Bobby will be back for the playoffs, which is all that matters.
 

VF21

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Did you READ the first post in this thread? He has been suspended by the Hornets. He's obviously not going to be playing. If he's on your fantasy team, you might consider benching him - at least until something more concrete is known.

It seems YAHOO just doesn't get it...
 
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JJ suspended for not reporting to HORNETS....

Hornets suspend Jackson for not reporting
By BRETT MARTEL, AP Sports Writer
December 29, 2004

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- The New Orleans Hornets suspended Jim Jackson indefinitely on Wednesday for not reporting to the team, two days after he was acquired from Houston in a trade.


Hornets coach Byron Scott suspected Jackson would not show up as scheduled after speaking with him by phone shortly after the trade brought the 13-year veteran to the worst team the league.

``He basically didn't want to start over. He wants to have a chance to win a championship just like 200 other players in this league,'' Scott said. ``We've encouraged him to just come down and meet everyone in the organization ... and I think he could have a change of heart, but right now he's pretty adamant about this not being something he wants to do at this particular point in his career.''

When Jackson failed to arrive, the Hornets suspended him indefinitely.

Jackson, 34, was averaging 13.3 points and 4.8 rebounds this season with Houston -- a team that at 13-15 has played below expectations but nonetheless stands a much better chance of making the playoffs than Hornets, who were 2-25 going into Wednesday night's game against Phoenix.

Hornets guard Baron Davis, who before this season started said he was disappointed with his team's offseason moves and wouldn't mind being traded himself, said he could relate to Jackson's stance.
``Nobody wants to go from having a chance to be in the playoffs to the worst team in the league, especially when your at the end of your NBA career,'' Davis said. ``It would be different if you were young and wanted playing time.''

By suspending Jackson, the Hornets do not have to pay him. Jackson also could be fined by the league under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.


The Hornets hope that will serve as motivation for Jackson to report.

New Orleans general manager Allan Bristow said that if Jackson thinks his refusal to report will motivate the Hornets to trade him, he could be mistaken.

``We certainly hope over time he will realize the Hornets family wants him here,'' Bristow said. ``When you talk about the Hornets and their record right now ... certainly that's a discouraging mark ... but we don't plan to be in this position very long.

``Trades are a vital part of getting this team back to the way we want it to be. We take trades very seriously and certainly expect that Jim Jackson will change his mind and be here soon,'' Bristow said.

Bristow said he knows from his playing days that being traded can be traumatic and that he hopes Jackson is simply ``in shock'' and will soon come to his senses.

``He's going to come in, he can start, not only for this year but for next year. We're looking more for next year than for this year because of injuries and trying to get everyone back together,'' Bristow said.

The Hornets have had up to five players on the injured list at one time this season, receiving league exemptions to surpass the usual maximum of three. Among the injured are recent All-Stars Jamaal Magloire, who'll be out another month with a broken finger, and Davis, who returned last week from a 19-game absence.

Jackson could not be reached for comment Wednesday evening. A phone call to his agent, Mark Termini, was not returned.

Jackson, who plays guard and forward, was acquired from the Rockets along with forward Bostjan Nachbar for guard David Wesley.

The trade was not affected by Jackson's suspension, the Hornets said. Nachbar was available for New Orleans' home game Wednesday night against Phoenix.
Jackson has played with Dallas, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Golden State, Portland, Atlanta, Cleveland, Miami and Sacramento, in addition to Houston, where he signed as a free agent before last season.


gotta feel for jimmy... cant really blame him for not reporting... the hornets should just release him... and he should just sign with the KINGS!!! :D
 
#26
He'll most likely report. Just like the Glove did with the Celitcs. It also sounds to me like they really want him and have no plans to trade him anyways. Of course there could be a lot of teams with some sweet deals for the Hornets, unfortunately the Kings not being one of them.
 
#27
Hornets Suspend Jackson Indefinitely

http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/jackson_041229.html


Hornets Suspend Jackson Indefinitely



New Orleans - The Hornets suspended guard/forward Jim Jackson indefinitely for failing to report to the team.

Jackson was acquired along with forward Bostjan Nachbar from the Houston Rockets in exchange for guard David Wesley on December 27. The trade will not be affected by Jackson's suspension, meaning Nachbar will be available for tonight's contest vs. Phoenix.

"We're confident that once Jim has time to evaluate his situation more closely, he'll understand that we have a great organization and a tremendous coaching staff and that New Orleans is a wonderful place to become part of the community," said Hornets General Manager Allan Bristow. "The Hornets have established a strong winning tradition over the years. We plan to continue to work tirelessly to get back to that."

Jackson has spent time with Dallas, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Golden State, Portland, Atlanta, Cleveland, Miami and Sacramento in addition to Houston (where he signed as a free agent prior to the 2003-04 season). He had averaged 13.3 points and 4.8 rebounds in 24 games with the Rockets this season.

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Can't blame him for not wanting to join the Hornets after being successful on winning teams like the Kings and the Rockets. Maybe this would be a good time to try to sign JJ back on the cheap?
 

HndsmCelt

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AriesMar27 said:
can you do that?
Can who do what?
Players still have human rights as far as I know and if they choose not to play so be it, of course they will not get paid but hey that is his perogative.

Cana team suspend a palyer? Sure and if they don't want to pay a no-show who's contract they bought its a smart move just in case things go to arbitration in terms of who is in full or partial breach of contract.

I suspect the concerned parites are woking behind the scenes to work something out.