Jason Terry...

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#2
An expiring contract like his will be a major asset over the next season. The summer may be a bit too early for him to be that moveable though.
 
#3
An expiring contract like his will be a major asset over the next season. The summer may be a bit too early for him to be that moveable though.
i agree, and i think they need to hang onto him with the understanding that his expiring contract might be valuable at the trade deadline. the kings are woefully short of useful assets now that they've made and decided to keep their 2014 draft pick, given that they still owe a future first-rounder to chicago...

they've got an unproven ben mclemore who's stock has never been lower in the wake of the nik stauskas selection, a serviceable big in jason thompson who could potentially draw some interest from playoff teams looking for additional size, and an expiring contract in jason terry that could be helpful to teams attempting to clear cap space in advance of the 2015 free agent class (especially those teams that whiff on 2014 free agents and scramble to sign lesser talents, a la carl landry)...

speaking of carl landry, i just pray that he's able to improve his trade value considerably in the coming season. and i suppose the kings might also have a trade chip in rudy gay's massive expiring if he and the team are unable or unwilling to agree to an extension this offseason. regardless, i'm seeing limited flexibility for the kings in the trade market; jason terry may very well represent a useful component of a future trade package, but we're likely still many months away from his contract being a truly movable piece...
 

dude12

Hall of Famer
#4
Jason Terry was talking to some media in Dallas (should be able to find interview on espn Dallas) saying he's ready to play but, as all suspect, wants to play on a contender. Called Cuz an elite talent but a shaky attitude. Said Rudy was not a proven winner but a guy you can build around. Said Sac wasn't rebuilding but building.

He also mentioned that his agent and Sac will be talking and may work on a buyout.....and finally said he bleeds blue and he is a Maverick at heart.

Looking at the Mavs, it doesn't look like there is anything that can come back that fits...

If the Terry and the Kings negotiate a buyout, how does that affect the cap? All 5.8 or the negotiated buyout?
 
#8
I wish we would not buy him out, if only out of spite for saying that crap. Let him sweep the freaking locker room floor for his salary and sit by the bench in street clothes all year if he wants to. It is so disappointing to hear that from a veteran who could really be contributing some positive presence in the locker room if he was a decent person.

Please Vivek don't pay this guy to go away.
 

dude12

Hall of Famer
#9
I wish we would not buy him out, if only out of spite for saying that crap. Let him sweep the freaking locker room floor for his salary and sit by the bench in street clothes all year if he wants to. It is so disappointing to hear that from a veteran who could really be contributing some positive presence in the locker room if he was a decent person.

Please Vivek don't pay this guy to go away.
He's probably saying those things so that the FO buys him out. FO is saying they won't buy him out....there is no reason for them to do this.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#10
Jason Terry was talking to some media in Dallas (should be able to find interview on espn Dallas) saying he's ready to play but, as all suspect, wants to play on a contender. Called Cuz an elite talent but a shaky attitude. Said Rudy was not a proven winner but a guy you can build around. Said Sac wasn't rebuilding but building.

He also mentioned that his agent and Sac will be talking and may work on a buyout.....and finally said he bleeds blue and he is a Maverick at heart.

Looking at the Mavs, it doesn't look like there is anything that can come back that fits...

If the Terry and the Kings negotiate a buyout, how does that affect the cap? All 5.8 or the negotiated buyout?
This is the stuff 3 team trades are made for. No point in a buy out at this stage. Dallas may not want to pay him full face value but some other team WILL want that expiring contract.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#11
I wish we would not buy him out, if only out of spite for saying that crap. Let him sweep the freaking locker room floor for his salary and sit by the bench in street clothes all year if he wants to. It is so disappointing to hear that from a veteran who could really be contributing some positive presence in the locker room if he was a decent person.

Please Vivek don't pay this guy to go away.
While I understand your POV, if that's how he feels I do not want him within 20 miles of our locker room and all our young players. He is the stereotypical example of self-absorved veteran with a bad attitude who can't keep his mouth shut. He's the exact kind of cancer we do not want anything to do with. Let him go back to Dallas.
 

VF21

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#13
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/15/6559198/kings-guard-jason-terry-longs.html
I hope he isn't traded and that Cousins makes him as uncomfortable as humanly possible!
Like I said above, we do not want his attitude anywhere around the young team we're trying to put together. Somebody like Jason Terry spewing crap in the locker room could and most likely would cause all kinds of problems. Pay him off, drive him to the airport and fumigate everything after he's gone.
 
#14
Like I said above, we do not want his attitude anywhere around the young team we're trying to put together. Somebody like Jason Terry spewing crap in the locker room could and most likely would cause all kinds of problems. Pay him off, drive him to the airport and fumigate everything after he's gone.
Heck no. Paying him off does nothing for us. We don't need to have him around the team so his "influence" means diddly squat. Right now, he's a $5M expiring contract and one of the few assets we possess.
 

VF21

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#15
Heck no. Paying him off does nothing for us. We don't need to have him around the team so his "influence" means diddly squat. Right now, he's a $5M expiring contract and one of the few assets we possess.
My comments were mostly directed at those who wanted to see him have to deal with Cousins, etc. To me that meant he would be around the team. And that will not work. I've seen the effect unhappy players can have on a team; so have you. Locker room cancers can do more damage than even the Maloofs ever thought of.
 
#16
My comments were mostly directed at those who wanted to see him have to deal with Cousins, etc. To me that meant he would be around the team. And that will not work. I've seen the effect unhappy players can have on a team; so have you. Locker room cancers can do more damage than even the Maloofs ever thought of.
Completely agree with you on that
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#19
alright, that about does it for me with Terry. Talking like he's still a commodity = living in the past.

So went and ran a quick search, we can't take back more salary because we are at the LT limit. But if we were to swap Terry's contract ($5.85mil ender) directly out for a slightly lesser one, what are the two worst/longest term contracts in that range?

Martell Webster (3yrs $16.8mil) -- starts at $5.38
Tony Allen (3yrs $15.5) -- starts at $4.83

Both BTW players with skills/positions we could use. Obviously I doubt Memphis wants to dump Grindfather, but it would be worth asking. And Washington might easily be wiling to dump Webster's money with Porter showing signs of life in SL.
 
#20
alright, that about does it for me with Terry. Talking like he's still a commodity = living in the past.

So went and ran a quick search, we can't take back more salary because we are at the LT limit. But if we were to swap Terry's contract ($5.85mil ender) directly out for a slightly lesser one, what are the two worst/longest term contracts in that range?

Martell Webster (3yrs $16.8mil) -- starts at $5.38
Tony Allen (3yrs $15.5) -- starts at $4.83

Both BTW players with skills/positions we could use. Obviously I doubt Memphis wants to dump Grindfather, but it would be worth asking. And Washington might easily be wiling to dump Webster's money with Porter showing signs of life in SL.
Didn't or doesn't Webster have a back injury that caused him to miss a chunk of season? Last thing I would want us to do is take on additional salary for a player that might not make an impact. We need to start clearing up our mess of a salary cap at some stage.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#21
Several years back there was something. But he's played 76 and 78 games for the Wizards the last two years, and nearly 30min a game both years.

P.S. amusing factoid pulled form his B-R profile: Relatives: Cousin of Jason Terry
 
#22
Several years back there was something. But he's played 76 and 78 games for the Wizards the last two years, and nearly 30min a game both years.

P.S. amusing factoid pulled form his B-R profile: Relatives: Cousin of Jason Terry
So I went ahead and checked and its only a couple of weeks old but he is expected to miss 3-5 months after surgery to repair herniated disk in lower back

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ster-back-injury-surgery-washington/11513407/
 
#26
What I don't get is why situations like this aren't resolved more by buying out the player for his salary - vet minimum. It's not right that guys like Terry want a full buyout and then go make an extra 1.4M on top of it the same year. You want your freedom...fine, but don't double dip because you won't just play where you were traded. Then we have the option to replace his contract with somebody we want without adding salary. That seems much more fair.
 

funkykingston

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#27
Jason Terry and Carl Landry for Larry Sanders.

Don't know if Milwaukee is game but I certainly would be. Cuts over $4 million in payroll for the Bucks for each of the next three years and gives them a steady veteran who delivers post scoring, something they currently lack. Also removes Sanders as a potential headache and bad influence on Parker and Antetokounmpo.

For the Kings it's the type of gamble I think they need to make.

Unfortunately Jason Kidd seems to be a Sanders fan and is hoping he returns to form.
 
#28
What I don't get is why situations like this aren't resolved more by buying out the player for his salary - vet minimum. It's not right that guys like Terry want a full buyout and then go make an extra 1.4M on top of it the same year. You want your freedom...fine, but don't double dip because you won't just play where you were traded. Then we have the option to replace his contract with somebody we want without adding salary. That seems much more fair.
Players don't get more money in a buyout unless the new contract is more than the old (unlikely). The new team pays the salary to the old team up to the buyout amount.
 
#29
Jason Terry and Carl Landry for Larry Sanders.

Don't know if Milwaukee is game but I certainly would be. Cuts over $4 million in payroll for the Bucks for each of the next three years and gives them a steady veteran who delivers post scoring, something they currently lack. Also removes Sanders as a potential headache and bad influence on Parker and Antetokounmpo.

For the Kings it's the type of gamble I think they need to make.

Unfortunately Jason Kidd seems to be a Sanders fan and is hoping he returns to form.
That makes too much sense for Milwaukee to ever go for it.
 
#30
I don't really disagree with anything he said but it's not really his place to make those comments. The fact of the matter is he's cashing checks from the Sacramento Kings right now. If he doesn't want to play here then he should make that known to management directly, not through the media.