Is the team finally on the same page

Is the team finally on the same page

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Getting there

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • Not necessarily

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • Total voters
    32
No, we go through this every time they win a few games in a row. This is what bad teams do. They win a couple that make you think they're going to turn the corner and then they turn around and get smashed by 25 points the next game and then lose the next 4 out of 5.
 
Let's put it this way: The team knows what is on the page. If they go off the page it isn't because they don't know what's on the page. If they go off the page it's because they willfully want to go off the page; not because they are confused or unclear about what is on the page.

Also, even if they commit to fully being on the same page doesn't mean it's always going to be a pretty outcome. They are still young and the team has some talent deficiencies. Some nights they are going to get hammered. That's the way it goes with good veteran teams, so the Kings will certainly be no different.
 
No, we go through this every time they win a few games in a row. This is what bad teams do. They win a couple that make you think they're going to turn the corner and then they turn around and get smashed by 25 points the next game and then lose the next 4 out of 5.

This is the fear. I think they are getting on the same page but who knows if it will last long term. Looks like MT will be out for awhile and who knows when the next Boogie Meltdown will occur. I hope they can keep it together though. I'm just not sure if they have enough talent to continue this the rest of the season.
 
Ask me after this road trip.

For now... "who knows."

Speaking of the road, why is this team so bad on the road? 10-7 at home and 1-12 on the road. I'd like to have hope about this upcoming 3 game easy peasy road trip, but their road record suggests that this board will be groaning 2 out of the next 3 games. In sum, I agree with you... this road trip will show if anything has changed.
 
Speaking of the road, why is this team so bad on the road? 10-7 at home and 1-12 on the road. I'd like to have hope about this upcoming 3 game easy peasy road trip, but their road record suggests that this board will be groaning 2 out of the next 3 games. In sum, I agree with you... this road trip will show if anything has changed.

Historically, bad teams really struggle on the road. The Kings lost 37 straight road games back in the day. Good times! Right now, there is no such thing as an "easy peasy" road trip for the Kings. Every game will be a challenge but if they can somehow come back 2-1 I think we would have something to build on. This will be a good test.
 
Historically, bad teams really struggle on the road. The Kings lost 37 straight road games back in the day. Good times! Right now, there is no such thing as an "easy peasy" road trip for the Kings. Every game will be a challenge but if they can somehow come back 2-1 I think we would have something to build on. This will be a good test.

I don't see any other 'historically' bad teams with a 10 wins at home and only 1 win on the road. 4-9 would make more sense. I didn't ask about what a team did 20 years ago. And this is an easy road trip, because it is the easiest one remaining on the schedule. As of right now, the 4 teams they are about to face on the road are a collective 45-81.
 
At the start of the season had you told me after 30 games we would be 11-19 going on a roadtrip with 3 really winnable games with these factors

  • Reke would miss half the season
  • DeMarcus would not be playing anywhere near what hes capable of outside roughly 10-12 games and getting suspended for 5 while being pretty much benched in both Clippers games and three of those games were against Portland, Lakers which we trashed with him and a Bucks team which would have had issues defedning him
  • Thornton would be struggling epicly (due to outside factors)
  • Isaiah Thomas would not be playing as well as his rookie season
  • The Aaron Brooks/Chuck Hayes deal's didn't real have much of a impact
  • John Salmons would be our starter at SF
  • Watched some of Keith Smarts rotations/set plays

I probably would have told you, that you are crazy and we would be lucky to win more than 5 games, if Cousins does not get suspended imo we beat Portland 3-1 in the season series at least and more than likely would have beat at the time the struggling Lakers.

Tbh 11-19 with all these factors is beyond acceptable
 
Yes. These guys are buying into a team concept of sharing the ball and getting out of the ISO crap. 4 straight games of 28-12 AST/TO ratio's tells you these guys are beginning to trust in each other and what Keith Smart is selling them. It'll be up to Tyreke to add his game to what we have going now and not disrupt the great offensive flow we have going now.
 
I don't see any other 'historically' bad teams with a 10 wins at home and only 1 win on the road. 4-9 would make more sense. I didn't ask about what a team did 20 years ago. And this is an easy road trip, because it is the easiest one remaining on the schedule. As of right now, the 4 teams they are about to face on the road are a collective 45-81.

The Kings have had 17 at home and 13 on the road. So that's one reason they have 10 wins at home -- more opportunities. Phoenix has a similar home and away record as we do and if you look at previous seasons you will see other teams with similar trends. Again, there is no such thing as an "easy" road trip for the Kings, hence their 1-12 road record. The 45-81 is a collective .357 winning percentage. The Kings are 11-19, a .367 winning percentage. So they are all about the same and that's why it will be hard for the Kings to win because they will be on the road. You realize all those other teams will look at the Kings as an "easy" game too, right?
 
At the start of the season had you told me after 30 games we would be 11-19 going on a roadtrip with 3 really winnable games with these factors

  • Reke would miss half the season

  • DeMarcus would not be playing anywhere near what hes capable of outside roughly 10-12 games and getting suspended for 5 while being pretty much benched in both Clippers games and three of those games were against Portland, Lakers which we trashed with him and a Bucks team which would have had issues defedning him

  • Thornton would be struggling epicly (due to outside factors)

  • Isaiah Thomas would not be playing as well as his rookie season

  • The Aaron Brooks/Chuck Hayes deal's didn't real have much of a impact

  • John Salmons would be our starter at SF

  • Watched some of Keith Smarts rotations/set plays

I probably would have told you, that you are crazy and we would be lucky to win more than 5 games, if Cousins does not get suspended imo we beat Portland 3-1 in the season series at least and more than likely would have beat at the time the struggling Lakers.

Tbh 11-19 with all these factors is beyond acceptable

You're ok with the bad record because a bunch of guys have been struggling? They're struggling because they aren't very good players. Not because they're normally good players that just aren't doing what they're capable of.
 
You're ok with the bad record because a bunch of guys have been struggling? They're struggling because they aren't very good players. Not because they're normally good players that just aren't doing what they're capable of.

Cousins has missed 5 games, Reke has missed around 12 games, Thornton has missed around 5 and probably going to miss more. All together, these guys have played maybe 10 games together and these 3 were easily considered our best players going into the year. Also, this is year 1 of a Keith Smart offense/defense and the team is starting to understand what he wants to do.

It doesn't excuse Smart's poor rotations for 95% of the year, but there are other factors as to why we're 11-19 right now, namely injuries. I don't think many teams would be all that successful when your top 3 players have missed time and played very little together on the season
 
The Kings have had 17 at home and 13 on the road. So that's one reason they have 10 wins at home -- more opportunities. Phoenix has a similar home and away record as we do and if you look at previous seasons you will see other teams with similar trends. Again, there is no such thing as an "easy" road trip for the Kings, hence their 1-12 road record. The 45-81 is a collective .357 winning percentage. The Kings are 11-19, a .367 winning percentage. So they are all about the same and that's why it will be hard for the Kings to win because they will be on the road. You realize all those other teams will look at the Kings as an "easy" game too, right?

The kings are the only team trending upward out of those 5 teams with a collective .350 win per. I would also still say that the kings record doesnt reflect the talent on the team where as a team like cleveland is probably only capable of achieving a .350 win per
 
Cousins has missed 5 games, Reke has missed around 12 games, Thornton has missed around 5 and probably going to miss more. All together, these guys have played maybe 10 games together and these 3 were easily considered our best players going into the year. Also, this is year 1 of a Keith Smart offense/defense and the team is starting to understand what he wants to do.

It doesn't excuse Smart's poor rotations for 95% of the year, but there are other factors as to why we're 11-19 right now, namely injuries. I don't think many teams would be all that successful when your top 3 players have missed time and played very little together on the season

I just don't buy the fact that we're a better team with all those guys healthy. We've seen them all play together plenty and it's never really worked before. I don't see why it's going to work now.
 
The Kings have had 17 at home and 13 on the road. So that's one reason they have 10 wins at home -- more opportunities. Phoenix has a similar home and away record as we do and if you look at previous seasons you will see other teams with similar trends. Again, there is no such thing as an "easy" road trip for the Kings, hence their 1-12 road record. The 45-81 is a collective .357 winning percentage. The Kings are 11-19, a .367 winning percentage. So they are all about the same and that's why it will be hard for the Kings to win because they will be on the road. You realize all those other teams will look at the Kings as an "easy" game too, right?

Obviously its the entire record that counts, but the question is, are they progressing and getting any better? In November they won 4 and lost 10. In December, they won 7 and lost 7. So at the moment, it would appear that yes, they're making progress. The road will be the test. All the teams they're playing are reasonably beatable. Of course thats what the Knicks and Celts thought when they looked at thieir schedule and saw us. If the Kings can continue to play the same style, sharing the ball and getting better shots, then on the nights when the shots are dropping, like last night, they'll win some games.

If they go back to one on one basketball, then I expect the losing to continue. Lets face it, they've been shooting lights out the last two games. Thats just not going to happen everynight, open shots or not. So continuing to play like they have the last few games is definitely an improvement, but I'm not sure the overall talent level is good enough to beat good teams on a regular basis, even when their doing everything right. But hey, what do I know? I never thought the Warriors would win the championship that year with only one real star on the team in Rick Barry, but they did.
 
No, we go through this every time they win a few games in a row. This is what bad teams do. They win a couple that make you think they're going to turn the corner and then they turn around and get smashed by 25 points the next game and then lose the next 4 out of 5.

This....

Until the Kings actually have a WINNING SEASON I'll keep my kudos to myself.
 
The kings are the only team trending upward out of those 5 teams with a collective .350 win per. I would also still say that the kings record doesnt reflect the talent on the team where as a team like cleveland is probably only capable of achieving a .350 win per

Every team in the league thinks they have talent. That thought isn't exclusive to the Sacramento Kings.
 
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