If it wasn't for Iverson, Webber would still be in the Kings..
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Webber was interviewed during the 1st quarter of the 6ers vs mavs game.
I believe Kobe Bryant is the only player currently under contract who has a provision for a trade veto. The rules in the NBA CBA are very strict about who can and can not have them. I believe its something like 8 years in the league and 4 with the current team so Webber wouldn't have qualified at the time he signed his contract.
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Now, I seem to remember at the time Webber was traded that the Kings sat down with him and had to get his okay. Webber only agreed because 1. Iverson called him and said he wanted Webber on the 6ers and 2. Webber said he didn't really want to stay if the Kings wanted him gone. I remember thinking, at the time, that it sounded like Webber could have stopped the deal.
Now, while I believe the above to be true, I suppose it could all have been in a dream.
Now, while I believe the above to be true, I suppose it could all have been in a dream.
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No words for the whys
He insists trade isn't 'about me and Peja'
Sacramento Bee, The (CA)
February 25, 2005
Author: Martin McNeal
Bee Staff Writer
Estimated printed pages: 3
WHAT IS WEBBER SAYING?
Chris Webber said his emotional goodbyes to Kings coach Rick Adelman and several players after learning of his trade to Philadelphia late Wednesday.
Emotional, he said, because he has grown to admire his teammates as well as his adopted city.
"It's funny," Webber said Thursday from one of his two Granite Bay homes after flying home, "just as much as I didn't want to come (to Sacramento), I didn't want to leave."
Webber said he had no problem with Peja Stojakovic, that he had wanted to win an NBA championship with the Kings and that he had wanted to retire with the team.
But Webber, the Kings' leading scorer and rebounder, also said he decided not to block the trade.
Webber had to waive a clause in his contract that would have been triggered when he was dealt. That clause, however, would have lifted his salary above the maximum level allowed in the collective bargaining agreement.
"I got off the bus (at the hotel in Dallas), and (Adelman) asked me to come to his room because he and (Kings president of basketball operations) Geoff (Petrie) needed to talk to me," Webber said. "Geoff told me there might be a trade. I told him I didn't want to leave. I wanted to win a championship here with these guys.
"But I knew that if I didn't have that clause in my contract, I probably already would have been traded, so I wouldn't stand in the way."
Webber said he met with Adelman after the deal had been consummated, and both called their conversation emotional.
"He said some very nice things to me," the coach said of Webber.
Said Webber: "People can criticize me all they want, but I know coach Adelman opened up my style of play through all types of injuries. He trusted me and allowed me to expand my game.
"Before I came to the Kings, I played in the post quite a bit and not out on the floor. But because of the system we used in Sacramento, that was not the way I played here. So I wanted to thank coach Adelman and coach (Pete) Carril and coach (John) Wetzel and E.T. (Elston Turner), because I think it's not likely that I'm going to get to work with a group like that again.
"Not in business or basketball or anywhere else, I'm guessing."
Webber also spent time in his room with Bobby Jackson, Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans and Kevin Martin that he said also helped soothe the pain of the business of pro basketball, in which players sometimes are sent away from where they want to be.
A day and a plane trip back to Sacramento later, the effects of the deal still hadn't truly hit Webber.
"I'm purely shocked," he said. "I didn't expect this."
Webber said he hoped people would not believe reports that he had problems with Stojakovic.
"I had no problem with Peja and told him numerous times how much I wanted him to stay (in Sacramento)," Webber said.
"Even in the summer," when Webber was quoted as saying his team had been soft in the playoffs, "there was never anything directed at Peja, because I wouldn't do that to him. My comments were directed to us as a team, no matter how people want to take them. It was about us getting it together as a team. People shouldn't make this about me and Peja."
Soon Webber will board a plane for Philadelphia to begin one more phase of a star-crossed career. But he won't be alone. He was traded with Matt Barnes and Michael Bradley.
Barnes, a former Del Campo High School star, was unavailable for comment.
Webber said he initially had concerns about Philadelphia's demanding fans.
"I really worried about how the city of Philly was going to accept me," he said, "but then about five minutes after the trade, (Allen Iverson) was on the phone with me, and that made me feel better."
* * *
The Bee's Martin McNeal can be reached at mmcneal@sacbee.com. Caption:
Sacramento Bee file, 2004 / Bryan Patrick Chris Webber said his trade had nothing to do with any reported friction with Peja Stojakovic. "I had no problem with Peja," Webber said. Fresno Bee / Darrell Wong Peja Stojakovic and Chris Webber enjoy a laugh during an exhibition game last October. Webber says his complaint about soft postseason play was not directed at Stojakovic. Associated Press / Donna McWilliam (top) and Sacramento Bee / Randy Pench (left) What might be bad news to Kings fans is good news for the rest of the Western Conference - or at least for this Dallas Mavericks fan, above, before Thursday's game. But Kings fans also are used to games without their star forward, who has been hobbled by injuries the past two seasons, beginning with the 2003 Western Conference semifinals against the Mavericks.
Memo: THE WEBBER TRADE AFTERMATH
Edition: METRO FINAL
Section: SPORTS
Page: C1
Dateline: DALLAS
Copyright 2005 The Sacramento Bee
Record Number: SAC_0404974279
He insists trade isn't 'about me and Peja'
Sacramento Bee, The (CA)
February 25, 2005
Author: Martin McNeal
Bee Staff Writer
Estimated printed pages: 3
WHAT IS WEBBER SAYING?
Chris Webber said his emotional goodbyes to Kings coach Rick Adelman and several players after learning of his trade to Philadelphia late Wednesday.
Emotional, he said, because he has grown to admire his teammates as well as his adopted city.
"It's funny," Webber said Thursday from one of his two Granite Bay homes after flying home, "just as much as I didn't want to come (to Sacramento), I didn't want to leave."
Webber said he had no problem with Peja Stojakovic, that he had wanted to win an NBA championship with the Kings and that he had wanted to retire with the team.
But Webber, the Kings' leading scorer and rebounder, also said he decided not to block the trade.
Webber had to waive a clause in his contract that would have been triggered when he was dealt. That clause, however, would have lifted his salary above the maximum level allowed in the collective bargaining agreement.
"I got off the bus (at the hotel in Dallas), and (Adelman) asked me to come to his room because he and (Kings president of basketball operations) Geoff (Petrie) needed to talk to me," Webber said. "Geoff told me there might be a trade. I told him I didn't want to leave. I wanted to win a championship here with these guys.
"But I knew that if I didn't have that clause in my contract, I probably already would have been traded, so I wouldn't stand in the way."
Webber said he met with Adelman after the deal had been consummated, and both called their conversation emotional.
"He said some very nice things to me," the coach said of Webber.
Said Webber: "People can criticize me all they want, but I know coach Adelman opened up my style of play through all types of injuries. He trusted me and allowed me to expand my game.
"Before I came to the Kings, I played in the post quite a bit and not out on the floor. But because of the system we used in Sacramento, that was not the way I played here. So I wanted to thank coach Adelman and coach (Pete) Carril and coach (John) Wetzel and E.T. (Elston Turner), because I think it's not likely that I'm going to get to work with a group like that again.
"Not in business or basketball or anywhere else, I'm guessing."
Webber also spent time in his room with Bobby Jackson, Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans and Kevin Martin that he said also helped soothe the pain of the business of pro basketball, in which players sometimes are sent away from where they want to be.
A day and a plane trip back to Sacramento later, the effects of the deal still hadn't truly hit Webber.
"I'm purely shocked," he said. "I didn't expect this."
Webber said he hoped people would not believe reports that he had problems with Stojakovic.
"I had no problem with Peja and told him numerous times how much I wanted him to stay (in Sacramento)," Webber said.
"Even in the summer," when Webber was quoted as saying his team had been soft in the playoffs, "there was never anything directed at Peja, because I wouldn't do that to him. My comments were directed to us as a team, no matter how people want to take them. It was about us getting it together as a team. People shouldn't make this about me and Peja."
Soon Webber will board a plane for Philadelphia to begin one more phase of a star-crossed career. But he won't be alone. He was traded with Matt Barnes and Michael Bradley.
Barnes, a former Del Campo High School star, was unavailable for comment.
Webber said he initially had concerns about Philadelphia's demanding fans.
"I really worried about how the city of Philly was going to accept me," he said, "but then about five minutes after the trade, (Allen Iverson) was on the phone with me, and that made me feel better."
* * *
The Bee's Martin McNeal can be reached at mmcneal@sacbee.com. Caption:
Sacramento Bee file, 2004 / Bryan Patrick Chris Webber said his trade had nothing to do with any reported friction with Peja Stojakovic. "I had no problem with Peja," Webber said. Fresno Bee / Darrell Wong Peja Stojakovic and Chris Webber enjoy a laugh during an exhibition game last October. Webber says his complaint about soft postseason play was not directed at Stojakovic. Associated Press / Donna McWilliam (top) and Sacramento Bee / Randy Pench (left) What might be bad news to Kings fans is good news for the rest of the Western Conference - or at least for this Dallas Mavericks fan, above, before Thursday's game. But Kings fans also are used to games without their star forward, who has been hobbled by injuries the past two seasons, beginning with the 2003 Western Conference semifinals against the Mavericks.
Memo: THE WEBBER TRADE AFTERMATH
Edition: METRO FINAL
Section: SPORTS
Page: C1
Dateline: DALLAS
Copyright 2005 The Sacramento Bee
Record Number: SAC_0404974279
LMM
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Now, I seem to remember at the time Webber was traded that the Kings sat down with him and had to get his okay. Webber only agreed because 1. Iverson called him and said he wanted Webber on the 6ers and 2. Webber said he didn't really want to stay if the Kings wanted him gone. I remember thinking, at the time, that it sounded like Webber could have stopped the deal.
Now, while I believe the above to be true, I suppose it could all have been in a dream.
I believe that's true.
As I said above, I don't think it was a no-trade clause but a trade kicker that would increase C-Webb's salary even more. The article below seems to explain the whole situation.
So basically, without the trade kicker, Philly wouldn't have traded for Webber. I guess you can interpret that as a "no trade clause" since he had to waive the trade kicker to get traded.
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