How would you build a contender with our current assets? (split)

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A bit off topic, but how would the forum build a contender with our current assets? What is our 3 year projection? I just don't see how this is going to get better anytime soon. We will lose Rondo in free agency, Ben hasn't improved enough to be a difference maker and or raise his trade value. Gay is starting to get banged up and has very limited trade value. We probably don't have any high draft picks coming our way. We are a team full of guys who are in their prime and will not get better. A defensive coach would surely help but we aren't magically going to win 50 games. We need to get younger after the failed Cousins/Gay/Rondo/Karl/veteran bench experiment.
 
A bit off topic, but how would the forum build a contender with our current assets? What is our 3 year projection? I just don't see how this is going to get better anytime soon. We will lose Rondo in free agency, Ben hasn't improved enough to be a difference maker and or raise his trade value. Gay is starting to get banged up and has very limited trade value. We probably don't have any high draft picks coming our way. We are a team full of guys who are in their prime and will not get better. A defensive coach would surely help but we aren't magically going to win 50 games. We need to get younger after the failed Cousins/Gay/Rondo/Karl/veteran bench experiment.

Kings fans have had the jitters since at least last year, but there's no reason the current model doesn't work better than it is currently. We really are jsut talking defense at this point. Shootig would be nice, but that's if we are chasing a title. To be a good team? Just defense. Under reasonable coaching Cuz/WCS could easily be the top frontcourt, and top defending frontcourt in the game. You have a pure PG averaging more assists than anyone has since early 90's Stockton. The framework is there.

Put another way, if we had nothign but a league average defense. Just average, not every projecting strength, this is what our numbers would look like.

First, on pure Pts/gm:
Pts For: 107.1
Pts Opp: 101.8 (league average -- we give up 109.1 (not league average)
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Diff: +5.3 -- Cleveland's Diff is +6.0, Toronto's +4.4, Clippers +3.9

Now more realistically given our pace fascination:

Second on ORtg:
ORTG For: 106.1
ORTG Opp: 105.7
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Diff: +0.4 -- Mavs at -0.9, Rockets -1.9, Grizz -0.9


All we need is just average defense and we are a playoff team with a huge frontcourt to build around. We have 2/5 of an excellent defensive lineup with Cuz/WCS. Going to give some away with Rondo. Really just looking at the wings as a fix.
 
Kings fans have had the jitters since at least last year, but there's no reason the current model doesn't work better than it is currently. We really are jsut talking defense at this point. Shootig would be nice, but that's if we are chasing a title. To be a good team? Just defense. Under reasonable coaching Cuz/WCS could easily be the top frontcourt, and top defending frontcourt in the game. You have a pure PG averaging more assists than anyone has since early 90's Stockton. The framework is there.

Put another way, if we had nothign but a league average defense. Just average, not every projecting strength, this is what our numbers would look like.

First, on pure Pts/gm:
Pts For: 107.1
Pts Opp: 101.8 (league average -- we give up 109.1 (not league average)
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Diff: +5.3 -- Cleveland's Diff is +6.0, Toronto's +4.4, Clippers +3.9

Now more realistically given our pace fascination:

Second on ORtg:
ORTG For: 106.1
ORTG Opp: 105.7
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Diff: +0.4 -- Mavs at -0.9, Rockets -1.9, Grizz -0.9


All we need is just average defense and we are a playoff team with a huge frontcourt to build around. We have 2/5 of an excellent defensive lineup with Cuz/WCS. Going to give some away with Rondo. Really just looking at the wings as a fix.

Why does Rondo's defense get a pass when IT's defense a few years back was one of the biggest problems we had according to some? He's just as big a turnstile as IT was, especially fighting through screens. At least IT could play quality on-ball defense once in awhile.

Omri is the only perimeter player we have who plays defense with any sort of consistency at a high level. You can hide 1 bad defensive player on the wing, you can't hide 3 like we do now starting. Which is a big reason why I've been hesitant to put everything on Karl; you can have the greatest scheme in the world, but it won't matter if the players don't put the effort in to do it. And I don't buy for a second that the only reason Rondo, the SG's and Rudy have struggled this season defensively is because of scheme.
 
Omri is the only perimeter player we have who plays defense with any sort of consistency at a high level. You can hide 1 bad defensive player on the wing, you can't hide 3 like we do now starting. Which is a big reason why I've been hesitant to put everything on Karl...
There are better defenders on the team than the ones who get playing time; they may not be good defenders, but they are better defenders. And they don't play. Who else's fault could that be, but the guy in charge of deciding the rotations?

And I don't buy for a second that the only reason Rondo, the SG's and Rudy have struggled this season defensively is because of scheme.
Rondo and Gay have never been thought as elite defenders, but they've never been thought of as bad defenders until recently. Why do you think that is?
 
Why does Rondo's defense get a pass when IT's defense a few years back was one of the biggest problems we had according to some? He's just as big a turnstile as IT was, especially fighting through screens. At least IT could play quality on-ball defense once in awhile.

Omri is the only perimeter player we have who plays defense with any sort of consistency at a high level. You can hide 1 bad defensive player on the wing, you can't hide 3 like we do now starting. Which is a big reason why I've been hesitant to put everything on Karl; you can have the greatest scheme in the world, but it won't matter if the players don't put the effort in to do it. And I don't buy for a second that the only reason Rondo, the SG's and Rudy have struggled this season defensively is because of scheme.

IT was a selfish dude as a "PG". Still is.

Rondo is the ultimate pure PG. Rondo doesn't get a pass on his defense so much as outweighs it with contributions on the other end (and the rebounding is a huge bonus too). Since Rondo is making a major contribution as the team's offensive QB, then he earns his place as the team's designated not good defender same way as so many pure PGs of the past have done, (Magic, Nash, Mark Jackson, you name it), although I have hopes that because he was once quite good, that in a big game he might be able to pick the defense back up in a way that a lifelong poor defender cannot.

But, since Rondo is poor, we need at least one exceptional wing.

Ignoring benchers for the moment, we could make a defensive go of things with:

Cousins -- very good
WCS -- great
Wing#1 -- solid
Wing #2 -- stopper
Rondo -- poor

But you need a roster change to make that happen, and you need a coach focused and serious about making it happen.

A while back I mentioned the possibility of getting George Hill as one of our wings by trying to make a Hill for Jeff Teague swap a three way affair. Then last week it was mentioned nationally that the Hawks and Pacers might be talking about those very two pieces. Still interests me considerably. We'd be halfway home. Need one more defensive wing and a coach willing to just throw Cuz/WCS out there for 30 min a night up front.
 
Interesting thread :) I love being a fantasy gm. Its nice to not focus on all this negativty surrounding the kings right now but instead look at a possible future. This is going to be a long post (as is our way to a contender) :p
On to my thoughts:

1) I decide to build around Cousins because he is our best player right now and we wouldn't get better if we trade him. All of the rest of the moves are made in order to maximize the strengths of Cousins and hide his weaknesses. Note: this has nothing to do with being pro-Cousins, I would do it exactly the same way with every franchise player. Ths is just how you do this.

2) I pick a coach that knows that defense is important and that we should play Cousins down low and build a motion offense around his post presence (not that hard). Cousins should score there and draw fouls, but a kick out to an open 3 is as valuable. I also choose someone as coach the players will respect and trust because he values loyalty. He doesnt necessarily has to be the greatest X and Os guy but a leader that can motivate and get them to play hard.
So I fire Karl and take a look at other options, for example Thibodeau, Larranaga, Tony Brown.. I don't like the other options available so this is a hard but important decision.

3) okay this is something I've been waiting for us to realize for years now: If Cousins is your centerpiece the PF becomes very important because he has to be guy that is going to protect him defensively and makes his life easier offensively. Ideally, you want somebody that is big enough to guard the opponents post big, mobile enough to guard stretch bigs and can hit 3s. Yeah right. Basically you want Serge Ibaka but there is no way we get him. So we have to use more than one player to accomplish this. We already have Willie Cauley-Stein and Kosta Koufos so that leaves only a stretch 4 to bring in. I'm going with Ryan Anderson here. He is a free agent this year and I think we can sign him because he is from the Sacramento area although we probably have to overpay a bit. He also gives us a good second option on offense and firepower of the bench once Cousins gets a rest.

4) Because I plan to sign Ryan Anderson we can get away with trading Rudy for bigger needs without our offense depending too much on Cousins. I'm looking for a wing that can guard 2s and 3s, is a good off'-ball defender and can hit a 3. This is tricky and we may not be getting full value here but I would trade Rudy to Phoenix for P.J. Tucker and Miami's 2018 first round pick (+ salary filler). Tucker is one of the best defenders and toughest players out there and this is exactly what we lack so I decided to do this deal.
I then flip Miamis first rounder for a late first rounder this year and draft Taurean Prince who is basically P.J. Tucker in young.

5) Honestly I don't know what to do with the PG position in fre agency. I don't know if Rondo wants to stay after I fired Karl and traded Rudy and I don't know if I want to and am able to pay him as much as he wants. So this a big ?. I do take a look at Lin, Chalmers, Cole in free agency though if Rondo leaves.

6) I resist to trade our shooting guards and I go one step further and try to extend Mclemore before October 31. I do not do this because I believe that either of them will be the answer but I think their value is so low right know that we would not get anything significant back and hope for improvement. And in the case of Mclemore, he played so little this year that I think we can get a good deal before he hits RFA the year after that and the cap baloons to 102 mil.

7) I think Curry and Butler opt out so I fill the remaing roster spots with vet leaders, for example Hinrich, Perkins etc.

Roster to start 2016/2017:
? / Collison / Hinrich
Mclemore / Belinelli/ J. Anderson
Tucker / Casspi / Prince
WCS / R. Anderson /Acy
Cousins / Koufos

Okay, obviously, this is not a championship caliber team. I think the SF, PF and C position are about as good as we could get and many players are returning so its not a complete overhaul. But our guard rotation is still nothing to write home about because who knows if Mclemore improves and Belinelli rebounds. But we have good balance, and our defense should be much improved. And on offense we should be able to get enough points to win.
So if all goes according to plan we reach 41-45 wins and get the 8th seed. We manage one season without drama and play up to our talent. This is about as good as one can hope for when considering the Karl drama.
The key is to stay patient because going in the 2017/2018 season we are in a good position to make further deals to elevate us to 45+ wins and maybe the 5th, 6th or 7th seed. We have cap space, good but expendable role players on good deals (Mclemore, Belinelli, Koufos) and picks that can be traded. We showed one year of stabilty and are now a up and coming team instead of the laughing stock of the NBA. So depending on the situation we could get that PG or SG that would take us to the next level either by free acency or trade. Factor in growth by WCS, Mclemore, Prince and Cousins and I like our chances.
 
The thread should be called how to build something respectable not how to build a contender. Unless we get a game changing draft pick (which we sort of dont really have thanks to the pick swaps) who is a freak of freaks we currently don't have anything to make us a contender the best we should be aiming for is like a 45 win team which would be amazing. Unless Kevin Durrant and Cousins become best friends over ASW we are looking at a 40/45 win type team best case scenario.

We need to try do what Portland/Utah/Pistons have done this season if we are building around Cousins try get guys of similar age to Cuz and get some tough guys on the roster.
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The thread should be called how to build something respectable not how to build a contender. Unless we get a game changing draft pick (which we sort of dont really have thanks to the pick swaps) who is a freak of freaks we currently don't have anything to make us a contender the best we should be aiming for is like a 45 win team which would be amazing. Unless Kevin Durrant and Cousins become best friends over ASW we are looking at a 40/45 win type team best case scenario.

We need to try do what Portland/Utah/Pistons have done this season if we are building around Cousins try get guys of similar age to Cuz and get some tough guys on the roster.
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I get what you are saying, but all franchises should be looking to build a contender.

This year was supposed to be our 8th seed momentum building season. Unless we rip off a bunch of games in a row we are going to end with the same uncertainty we have had the past several seasons.
 
Interesting thread :) I love being a fantasy gm. Its nice to not focus on all this negativty surrounding the kings right now but instead look at a possible future. This is going to be a long post (as is our way to a contender) :p
On to my thoughts:

1) I decide to build around Cousins because he is our best player right now and we wouldn't get better if we trade him. All of the rest of the moves are made in order to maximize the strengths of Cousins and hide his weaknesses. Note: this has nothing to do with being pro-Cousins, I would do it exactly the same way with every franchise player. Ths is just how you do this.

2) I pick a coach that knows that defense is important and that we should play Cousins down low and build a motion offense around his post presence (not that hard). Cousins should score there and draw fouls, but a kick out to an open 3 is as valuable. I also choose someone as coach the players will respect and trust because he values loyalty. He doesnt necessarily has to be the greatest X and Os guy but a leader that can motivate and get them to play hard.
So I fire Karl and take a look at other options, for example Thibodeau, Larranaga, Tony Brown.. I don't like the other options available so this is a hard but important decision.

3) okay this is something I've been waiting for us to realize for years now: If Cousins is your centerpiece the PF becomes very important because he has to be guy that is going to protect him defensively and makes his life easier offensively. Ideally, you want somebody that is big enough to guard the opponents post big, mobile enough to guard stretch bigs and can hit 3s. Yeah right. Basically you want Serge Ibaka but there is no way we get him. So we have to use more than one player to accomplish this. We already have Willie Cauley-Stein and Kosta Koufos so that leaves only a stretch 4 to bring in. I'm going with Ryan Anderson here. He is a free agent this year and I think we can sign him because he is from the Sacramento area although we probably have to overpay a bit. He also gives us a good second option on offense and firepower of the bench once Cousins gets a rest.

4) Because I plan to sign Ryan Anderson we can get away with trading Rudy for bigger needs without our offense depending too much on Cousins. I'm looking for a wing that can guard 2s and 3s, is a good off'-ball defender and can hit a 3. This is tricky and we may not be getting full value here but I would trade Rudy to Phoenix for P.J. Tucker and Miami's 2018 first round pick (+ salary filler). Tucker is one of the best defenders and toughest players out there and this is exactly what we lack so I decided to do this deal.
I then flip Miamis first rounder for a late first rounder this year and draft Taurean Prince who is basically P.J. Tucker in young.

5) Honestly I don't know what to do with the PG position in fre agency. I don't know if Rondo wants to stay after I fired Karl and traded Rudy and I don't know if I want to and am able to pay him as much as he wants. So this a big ?. I do take a look at Lin, Chalmers, Cole in free agency though if Rondo leaves.

6) I resist to trade our shooting guards and I go one step further and try to extend Mclemore before October 31. I do not do this because I believe that either of them will be the answer but I think their value is so low right know that we would not get anything significant back and hope for improvement. And in the case of Mclemore, he played so little this year that I think we can get a good deal before he hits RFA the year after that and the cap baloons to 102 mil.

7) I think Curry and Butler opt out so I fill the remaing roster spots with vet leaders, for example Hinrich, Perkins etc.

Roster to start 2016/2017:
? / Collison / Hinrich
Mclemore / Belinelli/ J. Anderson
Tucker / Casspi / Prince
WCS / R. Anderson /Acy
Cousins / Koufos

Okay, obviously, this is not a championship caliber team. I think the SF, PF and C position are about as good as we could get and many players are returning so its not a complete overhaul. But our guard rotation is still nothing to write home about because who knows if Mclemore improves and Belinelli rebounds. But we have good balance, and our defense should be much improved. And on offense we should be able to get enough points to win.
So if all goes according to plan we reach 41-45 wins and get the 8th seed. We manage one season without drama and play up to our talent. This is about as good as one can hope for when considering the Karl drama.
The key is to stay patient because going in the 2017/2018 season we are in a good position to make further deals to elevate us to 45+ wins and maybe the 5th, 6th or 7th seed. We have cap space, good but expendable role players on good deals (Mclemore, Belinelli, Koufos) and picks that can be traded. We showed one year of stabilty and are now a up and coming team instead of the laughing stock of the NBA. So depending on the situation we could get that PG or SG that would take us to the next level either by free acency or trade. Factor in growth by WCS, Mclemore, Prince and Cousins and I like our chances.
If you go by the assumption that you lose rudy then you lose rondo i think it's too much to give up. Play wcs more and put all of your efforts to get the most tenacious defender you can at sg and I think we're looking alright.
 
Cousins will only become a true "plus" defender when he stops complaining and loafing on plays when he thinks he got fouled.

To improve team defense I think we get better by getting rid of Marco. Package him and Kufos or Rudy Gay if you can get back value. I'm not necessarily sold on Rondo. He is as much a part of the terrible defense as anyone, and could walk for nothing at end of season. What will be his asking price, 3 years $40+ mil??
 
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Cousins will only become a true "plus" defender when he stops complaining and loafing on plays when he thinks he got fouled.

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Cousins will only become a true "plus" defender when he stops complaining and loafing on plays when he thinks he got fouled.

See, this bit of echo chamber nonsense needs to stop. Now.

It is absolutely 100% WRONG. Not debatable. WRONG.

Its an oft repeated piece of slimework intended to win rhetorical points/support an anti-Cousins plank. It has no factual basis. No statistical basis whatsoever.

However many baskets Cousins' complaints to refs cost us, he makes up for 10x over when he is back. He's a huge "plus" defender for us, and has been for several years now. Our defensive rating with Cousins on the floor is 6.2pts better than when he is off it. Out of our 9 rotation guys the only other guy even close is Casspi (which makes no sense but its been there all year).

DRTG On/Off of 9 rotation players:

Cousins -6.2
Casspi -5.6
Cauley-Stein -0.3
McLemore +0.0
Collison +1.4
Gay +1.5
Belinelli +1.9
Rondo +4.7
Koufos +4.8


When Cousins is on the floor our 106.0 DRTG is only a tic off the league average of 105.7. When Cousins is off the floor our DRTG is 112.2, much worse than even the last place Lakers (110.5).
 
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Rondo and Gay have never been thought as elite defenders, but they've never been thought of as bad defenders until recently. Why do you think that is?


This part might not be true. Rondo said himself he didn't need to play defense his last couple of years in Boston and we all know how it went in Dallas.

I love watching Rondo play but I do think he can try harder on defense than he has. He was very solid earlier in his career. Long arms great bbiq etc.
 
If you go by the assumption that you lose rudy then you lose rondo i think it's too much to give up. Play wcs more and put all of your efforts to get the most tenacious defender you can at sg and I think we're looking alright.

Rondo has said more than once that Rudy had nothing to do with him coming to Sacramento. He came here to play with the best big man in the NBA.
 
The only stats that matter much to me are Wins and Losses. Cousins needs to improve his attitude and teamwork, same as it's been for his entire career. His bad attitude is a big part of the losing culture that plagues are team. That said he is our best chance, and I wouldn't trade him ...... yet.
 
The only stats that matter much to me are Wins and Losses.

If "the only stat that matters to you is Wins and Losses" then you can have no intelligent plan to ever get better. You can't discern a damn thing actually going on. You would dump that loser Anthony Davis, would have traded Stephen Curry after his 3rd year, if not sooner, would have fired Gregg Loservich after his first season as coach.

You may think "all you care about is Wins and Losses" is some clever and impregnable cliche, but its hardly that. Its an open invitation to ignorance and prejudice. "Wins and Losses" are the very first inquiry, the child's inquiry, the starting point of inquiries. All higher level analysis useful in actually building that winning team comes afterward.
 
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See, this bit of echo chamber nonsense needs to stop. Now.

It is absolutely 100% WRONG. Not debatable. WRONG.

Its an oft repeated piece of slimework intended to win rhetorical points/support an anti-Cousins plank. It has no factual basis. No statistical basis whatsoever.

However many baskets Cousins' complaints to refs cost us, he makes up for 10x over when he is back. He's a huge "plus" defender for us, and has been for several years now. Our defensive rating with Cousins on the floor is 6.2pts better than when he is off it. Out of our 9 rotation guys the only other guy even close is Casspi (which makes no sense but its been there all year).

DRTG On/Off of 9 rotation players:

Cousins -6.2
Casspi -5.6
Cauley-Stein -0.3
McLemore +0.0
Collison +1.4
Gay +1.5
Belinelli +1.9
Rondo +4.7
Koufos +4.8


When Cousins is on the floor our 106.0 DRTG is only a tic off the league average of 105.7. When Cousins is off the floor our DRTG is 112.2, much worse than even the last place Lakers (110.5).

Boogie is a good defender. And he can be a great defender when he wants to be. But your argument is fallacious in the sense that you cannot prove a good defender relative to bad group of defenders. He is just better than bad! That may be mediocre or tick better than average. To wit:

Darren is 423 out of 440 in DRPM at -3.29. (Bottom 90%!)
Marco is 438 out of 440 in DRPM at -4.47. (Bottom 90%!)
Boogie is 13 out of 440 in DRPM at +3.90. (Top 10%!)

I realize these numbers are smoothed for teammates and opponents but where would Boogie's on/off rating be if we did not have this sieve defenders in the second unit? Marco and Darren are often on the floor when Boogie is resting. Teams are lighting us up. The on/off numbers reflect that.

In other words concluding Boogie is among the best or the best defender on the team AND also saying his defense suffers due to chronic complaining to refs are NOT mutually incompatible statements. I would edit the gilly420's statement to read:

Cousins will only become a true "plus" defender realize his potential as a defender when he stops complaining and loafing on plays when he thinks he got fouled.

I would like to see Boogie take 1-2 more steps out onto the perimeter (when necessary) as he did in the second half to take away Okafor ability to roam free and shoot open shot. He shut him down and was instrumental in our comeback win.

Boogie did this to lesser degree against Gasol recently but his unwillingness to step out or trap or move his feet and instead swipe at the ball and go for stupid steal attempts in the backcourt leaves team vulnerable.

It happens over and over! His frequent lack of discipline and inconsistent effort is what I think Gilly420 is referring to. The bottom line is that his on/off stats are impressive but they could also be better.
 
This part might not be true. Rondo said himself he didn't need to play defense his last couple of years in Boston and we all know how it went in Dallas.

I love watching Rondo play but I do think he can try harder on defense than he has. He was very solid earlier in his career. Long arms great bbiq etc.
I don't really consider "lazy defender" to be equivalent to "poor defender." YMMV.
 
It would take a lot of unrealistic trades/FAs for this to happen, but this is what I think:

(Regular season)
  1. Trade Caron Butler for Detroit 2017 2nd rounder
  2. Tank the rest of the year to get a top 5 pick
(Beginning offseason/draft)
  1. Trade Rudy Gay for Grizzlies 2016 1st rounder
  2. Draft defensive PG Kris Dunn in top 5
  3. Draft future PF Jonathan Jeanne in late 1st
  4. Draft SF Dorian F-Smith in the 2nd with Spurs pick

(Free Agency) Kings have around 38m for FA, assuming cap is at 86m.
  1. Sign Harrison Barnes for 4 years-$72million (Around 14-15mil left)
  2. Sign Kent Bazmore for 3 years-$36mil
  3. Sign Jon Leuer for 2 years-$12mil
  4. S&T Belinelli and Curry for Tyler Johnson for 4 years-$20million
2016 Roster:

Dunn- Collison - Johnson
Bazemore- McLemore - Anderson
Barnes- Casspi - Smith
WCS- Leur - Dukan
Cousins- Kofus - Acy

Does it make us competitive in 2016? Maybe not. Does this give us a bright future? Hell yea.

This team could be huge contenders within a few years..pending on development.
 
With the current assets? you can't. However, the first step is to tank the season and get a top 10 pick because this team lacks talent and youth in the worst way. We all know the Kings have been terrible drafting the last few seasons sans Trill so from there I'd try to do a sign and trade for Rondo for either Mike Conley or Kris Dunn and then follow that up by trading Gay for something of worth. DC, Koufos and Casspi is a nice bench to have around. Belinelli has to go as well, good luck. Too much work to do. Let's make the playoffs first then turn into a contender.
 
we need a proper focus on defense - schemes, accoutability etc

in my mind we need a defensive SG - this could be ben with mentoring

pieces are there - play acy more - you can look to upgrade belli but we arent far off in reality

im not an advocate of tanking - team is good enough to be anywhere from 4-8th seed in the west as currently constructed
 
We need better SGs. Ben is taking forever to develop (I still think he might be good eventually though) and Marco is just trash (offensively, it's how Karl uses him. Defensively it is hopeless).

And a better coach.

Cuz/WCS will be an amazing frontcourt duo..... That should be the untradable core.

I like DC. Rondo, I have mixed feelings. His floor general game is incredible, but he defense is awful. If he asks for too much, I'd let him walk. If we can lock him up on a fair deal, then we should trade DC. The guy deserves more than Rondo backup minutes, and the 2 PG thing Karl does is awful.

Rudy.... Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. I think he's a great 2nd option. OTOH, he's inconsistent and soft as hell. There is just something Charmin' about him, and I aint talkin his smile! I wouldn't trade him just to trade him, but if we can shore up a few holes in the roster by shipping him out in a fair trade, I'd be for it. Omri is a beast playing with the starters.

Otherwise......Gosh.

Koufos is a solid backup C. People like to bash him, but I think he's good coming off the bench to spell Cuz. Cuz/KK/WCS looks like a good 3 big rotation to me. Omri is solid. Acy is a good roleplaying scrapper (who deserves more time somehow).

Really, besides the glaring hole at SG.... I still think our roster is pretty good on paper. It is just too bad we have senile Karl ******* all over this season.
 
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