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ONEZERO
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i know this isnt the right time for this type of question, but where is the kings/hornets game going to be. its the second game of the season.
ONEZERO said:
I'm curious. If it's not the right time for this type of question and you acknowledge it's not the right time, why did you ask it?
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No one knows right now what's going to happen. What was mentioned at one point was that the Hornets might temporarily play at LSU. The Saints are going to be based in San Antonio.
KingsFan54
Bench
VF21 said:
from what I hear and I'm sorry but I can't remember where I heard it, the NBA is considering moving the Hormets for the entire season. As of yet where they will play has not been determined.
IVote4Replay
G-League
KingsFan54 said:
I heard that they are looking at Oklahoma City for the upcoming season..- Realgm:
John Rhode, The Daily Oklahoman - 09/02 - 9:45 AM EST
Oklahoma City is among the cities which could become home to the New Orleans Hornets for the upcoming NBA season, according to sources in Oklahoma City and national reports on Fox Sports Radio.
The Hornets’ possible move, due to the destruction left behind by Hurricane Katrina, is in the exploratory stage, pending discussions with officials from New Orleans, the Hornets and the NBA.
thedofd
Bench
KingsFan54 said:
This is probably an item best put in the NBA forum, but I found this item on Hoopshype to be interesting:
http://www.oregonlive.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/olive_JohnCanzano/archives/print076018.html
Friday, September 02, 2005
Is this the beginning of the Las Vegas Hornets?
Ok, we all know the NBA has been looking for an excuse to place a team in Las Vegas.
So just you watch.
The National Basketball Association moving the New Orleans Hornets franchise out — not just for a few weeks, or the first half of the season, but until October, 2006. Yesterday, an e-mail went out from the league to each of the 30 teams instructing them to make provisions for playing the Hornets somewhere else this season.
You sort of hope the league isn't bailing on the city of New Orleans, and will help with the reconstruction of that city, but also, you know the league is going to jump all over the opportunity to get a team in Sin City, the site of the 2007 NBA All-Star Game. <http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-timdahlberg&prov=ap&type=lgns>
Wonder if you can get odds on this...
Doesn't KC have a new arena? Is it done yet? They might make a play to showcase the new building, even if they don't try to get the Hornets to move and just put the facility out there for the world to see. Good PR.
Doubt if the Vegas thing would fly, but interesting idea.
Doubt if the Vegas thing would fly, but interesting idea.
The Hornets will, IMHO, stay in Louisiana. The LSU facility is big enough to hold them; I don't see the NBA moving the franchise out of Louisiana at this point, for a variety of reasons. And personally, I think the idea of moving them to Vegas would be HORRIBLE for the NBA to even contemplate. Talk about bald-faced opportunism. I don't think even Stern would attempt to pull that off...
I knew someone would bring it up, however. Whoever John Canzano is - he's the name on the "article" the link leads to AFTER you register for their site - I don't think he's speaking from anything other than personal viewpoint.
I knew someone would bring it up, however. Whoever John Canzano is - he's the name on the "article" the link leads to AFTER you register for their site - I don't think he's speaking from anything other than personal viewpoint.
loopymitch
All-Star
IMO they really should stay in La. if they can. Obviously nothing can take people's mind off the tragedy but a temporary distraction can be a welcome relief.
I don't think either the Hornets or the Saints will be playing in New Orleans again. New Orleans was a tenuous sports city to begin with. The Saints almost moved this summer, before the state legislature came through, and there has been no support for the Hornets to date. It's a GREAT event city, or was. Having things in the future like the Super Bowl and All-Star Game would be tremendous, but Louisiana and city money needs to go to better things than sporting events, and the NBA and NFL should probably move on.
My prediction: Saints to San Antonio, Hornets to KC.
My prediction: Saints to San Antonio, Hornets to KC.
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ONEZERO
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I got my own thread started without doing it myself. Haha
loopymitch
All-Star
One good thing if the Hornets move to KC then we won't.
I wouldn't like to see Saints in Texas but that would be closer for their fans.
It's just a difficult situation all around.
I wouldn't like to see Saints in Texas but that would be closer for their fans.
It's just a difficult situation all around.
chelle
Starter
WE need them to stay in Louisiana. Not only does it provide financial revenue for us, it gives us something "normal" to hang on to. The city may fall aprt, be can always count on the Saints to lose!!
Honestly, as much as we complain about the Saints and the Hornets, we love them. For many, it is an "I love to hate you" situation, but it is still part of our daily life. The Hornets are new and not as ingrained in our collective mindset, but they are still important. LSU provides a viable option. Possibly ,more so for the Hornets than the Saints if they can work out schedules. Playing in Death Valley will give the Saints MANY less seats and they were remodeling the stadium, but maybe a closer "COLLEGE-LIKE" atmosphere will inspire them.
Forgive my PURELY SELFISH thougts, but I would much rather the Hornets play at the Pete Mac in Baton Rouge than Okalhoma. I go to about 5-6 games a season (I DO NOT miss when the Kings come to town). I would miss being able to go to games. Baton Rouge is fine with me UNTIL we rebuild New Orleans.
Honestly, as much as we complain about the Saints and the Hornets, we love them. For many, it is an "I love to hate you" situation, but it is still part of our daily life. The Hornets are new and not as ingrained in our collective mindset, but they are still important. LSU provides a viable option. Possibly ,more so for the Hornets than the Saints if they can work out schedules. Playing in Death Valley will give the Saints MANY less seats and they were remodeling the stadium, but maybe a closer "COLLEGE-LIKE" atmosphere will inspire them.
Forgive my PURELY SELFISH thougts, but I would much rather the Hornets play at the Pete Mac in Baton Rouge than Okalhoma. I go to about 5-6 games a season (I DO NOT miss when the Kings come to town). I would miss being able to go to games. Baton Rouge is fine with me UNTIL we rebuild New Orleans.
chelle said:WE need them to stay in Louisiana. Not only does it provide financial revenue for us, it gives us something "normal" to hang on to. The city may fall aprt, be can always count on the Saints to lose!!
Honestly, as much as we complain about the Saints and the Hornets, we love them. For many, it is an "I love to hate you" situation, but it is still part of our daily life. The Hornets are new and not as ingrained in our collective mindset, but they are still important. LSU provides a viable option. Possibly ,more so for the Hornets than the Saints if they can work out schedules. Playing in Death Valley will give the Saints MANY less seats and they were remodeling the stadium, but maybe a closer "COLLEGE-LIKE" atmosphere will inspire them.
Forgive my PURELY SELFISH thougts, but I would much rather the Hornets play at the Pete Mac in Baton Rouge than Okalhoma. I go to about 5-6 games a season (I DO NOT miss when the Kings come to town). I would miss being able to go to games. Baton Rouge is fine with me UNTIL we rebuild New Orleans.
I appreciate the sentiments of what you say, but I think it would be pretty silly to spend time and money rescuscitating the SuperDome and the arena at the expense of housing, industry, or medical facilities. Now, getting the SuperDome back in a reasonable period of time will be key because it is the venue for most of the large events New Orleans hosts, and that will bring tourist dollars back into the city. It's a top priority, but certainly a rung below infrastructure and industrial/tourist facilites. More importantly, are locals going to be able to afford to go to games anytime soon? Stern and Tagliabue may need to move the Hornets and Saints with the same kind of agreement that Charlotte and Cleveland recieved in regards to expansion teams.
chelle
Starter
Venom said:
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Keeping the Saints in New Orleans gives that to the area. People cannot rebuild without money. It is sad to say, but most of the people who lost everything had the least. They will NEED jobs. The sports side of it is totally trivial. It is the fact that from parking attendants, cleaning crews, ushers, etc the Superdome provides jobs. All these things provide money to people. If local companies get the contract, LOCAL people will be paid to rebuild the Superdome. Again, playing a game in and of itself is so unimportant I hate to even mention it. I just know that we need it to be sure people have jobs. Many people's livelyhood depend on it. That is not even to mention how much of New Orleans' economy is based on the Large events held there. From a purely economical standpoint, they need to be back as soon as possible. Also, most of the poeple who go to the Saints' games to enjoy it are not locals. Again, that is a sad commentary on our social structure, but it is fact.
I TOTALLY AGREE THAT MEDICAL FACILITIES AND HOMES SHOULD HAVE TOP PRIORITY.
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loopymitch
All-Star
I agree chelle, any sense of "normalcy' is needed and of course the jobs.
mcsluggo
Starter
Yes like the people of Vancouver decided they wanted to send THEIR team to Memphis, and the citizens of Brooklyn, Kansas City and Baltimore decided to send the Giants, Kings and Bullets to S.F, Sac and Washington
It s business, and if the owners of those teams think they can slink out without tarring their trademarkable assets too much, they are gonzo. If on the other hand they think they can play up the warm fuzzies to a sufficient degree they may stay.(imagine if every midwesterner who bought an "I <heart> N.Y." tee-shirt, decides to buy a $180 replica Archie Manning Saints Jersey next. Ka-ching.)
It s business, and if the owners of those teams think they can slink out without tarring their trademarkable assets too much, they are gonzo. If on the other hand they think they can play up the warm fuzzies to a sufficient degree they may stay.(imagine if every midwesterner who bought an "I <heart> N.Y." tee-shirt, decides to buy a $180 replica Archie Manning Saints Jersey next. Ka-ching.)
BigWaxer
Starter
its to early to tell.
However the one thing over the years that has gotten amercians through times like this is sports. It lets people "forget" at least for a few hours their own troubles.
I am pretty certain in saying that no pro team in any sport that is in Louisiana will be moving as a result of this disaster. Sure they may move and play in a temp facility but I suspect we won't be seeing the LVegas hornets or LA Saints.
It serves everyone best if all pro teams that are in NO stay in NO. It's time for the city to rebuild and for us as americans to show our true character
However the one thing over the years that has gotten amercians through times like this is sports. It lets people "forget" at least for a few hours their own troubles.
I am pretty certain in saying that no pro team in any sport that is in Louisiana will be moving as a result of this disaster. Sure they may move and play in a temp facility but I suspect we won't be seeing the LVegas hornets or LA Saints.
It serves everyone best if all pro teams that are in NO stay in NO. It's time for the city to rebuild and for us as americans to show our true character
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chelle said:
But who is going to have the discretionary income to attend a Saints or Hornets game? Besides, nobody went to Hornets games to begin with. I don't think either team employs enough people to justify the expenses needed to rejuvenate those facilities. The SuperDome is paramount only because it is where all the large events occur, which will be key to regenerating the tourist revenue. I maintain that the NFL should authorize an expansion franchise for New Orleans in 2008 or 2009, and allow the Saints to move. The Saints were already on the brink of moving anyway, and the state/city will not be able to afford to keep them. As you stated, the Saints do not attract locals anyway (neither do the Hornets), and that would allow eight more weekends a year between 2006 to 2009 for large events that attract thousands of tourists to the city. Again, I do not think that the Saints and Hornets were economically viable anymore before Katrina, and now it would be silly for both the owners and the city to keep them in New Orleans.
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SpursFan
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The Saints will play in San Antonio this season.
The first home game will not be in SA because of two reasons.
1. The NFL doesn't want to take any of the spotlight from the rescue and relief in NO and the entire gulf coast region. The second home game won't be until Oct. 2 which gives the NFL enough time to let things calm down a bit.
2. Tom Benson, the Saints owner, and the city of San Antonio are currently working on a season ticket package for this season.
It's been reported on local sportsnews that the Saints will be based in San Atonio until the season is over. Many of the players have spent and will spend the weekend looking for homes and schools for their children in the SA area.
The first home game will not be in SA because of two reasons.
1. The NFL doesn't want to take any of the spotlight from the rescue and relief in NO and the entire gulf coast region. The second home game won't be until Oct. 2 which gives the NFL enough time to let things calm down a bit.
2. Tom Benson, the Saints owner, and the city of San Antonio are currently working on a season ticket package for this season.
It's been reported on local sportsnews that the Saints will be based in San Atonio until the season is over. Many of the players have spent and will spend the weekend looking for homes and schools for their children in the SA area.
BigWaxer said:
I don't think the hornets will move, after all they just arrived not long ago.
However, it is common knowledge that the Saints have been grumbling for years due to the aging Superdome. I did a search and saw articles going back to '01 talking about the Saints battle to get a stadium (sounds like a certain basketball team located in NorCal...) The Saints have been battling for a new stadium for a while, with the local officials refusing the latest plans earlier this year. The Superdome is nice, but even before the disaster was getting old and lacking in things owners see as needed these days, like large numbers of luxury boxes.
Excerpt from an article I found at (free registration or use "slashdot" for username/pass):
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/06/06/sections/sports/sports/print_548666.php
Before the disaster, it sounded very much like the situation the Kings are in. Team and ownership is supportive and wants to stay, but government and public are not behind using the amount of public money needed to build a modern stadium. Now with the disaster, the already aging superdome was trashed inside and out. I personally don't think they will move, but I wouldn't count out the possibility.
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loopymitch
All-Star
I actually heard something on ESPN that made sense which doesn't happen very often. there is discussion where the Super Bowl will be played in 2010 I think it was. Let NO host it, irregardless of whether the Saints are still there or not. The increased renevue of course would be beneficial but it would also help the morale of the city which right now doesn't have a whole lot to be thankful for.
I know it's kind of off the topic but I thought that was a good point.
I know it's kind of off the topic but I thought that was a good point.
