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Hire Jerry Sloan Now !!
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Kingsguy881
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I thought they resigned him?
Section 101
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He did. But he just stepped down and so did Phil Johnson. He got into it with the GM last night.
Just google Jerry Sloan, its all over news sites.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Yikes Sandwich. Bad news for that organization....got to figure he plans to retire for good.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
that's shocking. I've been watching the game for a long time, and even I can just barely remmeber in foggy fashion a time when Frank Layden was coaching that team ratehr than Sloan.
Very very tough to see him going anywhere else though. He's old, only a year or two away from retirement in all liklihood anyway, and has never seeked out the limelight. You would have to think this will be it for him barring an impossible offer somewhere.
Very very tough to see him going anywhere else though. He's old, only a year or two away from retirement in all liklihood anyway, and has never seeked out the limelight. You would have to think this will be it for him barring an impossible offer somewhere.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
I know it's sudden, and we'll have to wait for more. But hypothetically, wouldn't you agree Sloan would be a great fit for 2 years, to really help teach and lay a solid foundation for our young guys, before he bows out of the league for good? With what he was able to do with Stockton and DWill, he would be great for Tyreke.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I have a feeling that Sloan is done for good. He's been coaching for a long, long time without interruption.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
But have you read the reports do far? First off, he just signed an extension, so he wants to continue coaching. 2nd, reportedly he and DWill had problems behind the scenes, and Sloan felt ownership was listening to DWill more than him. I'm not saying he's not done as a coach, but I haven't heard anything to lead me to believe he's done coaching.
IfAt1st
Starter
I don't give a crap what Sloan ultimately decides to do -
that is for the future to find out.
what the Maloofs have to do RIGHT NOW is contact him and see if he would coach the Kings for a couple years.
If so, they drop Westphal on his a$$ (and I LIKE Westphal!) and see what a real coach can do for their team.
If the Maloofs do any less than that, they are dealing on assumptions and guesses and not trying hard to get this ultra-young team one of the best coaches EVER who specializes in getting the most out of his player's talent.
Paying Sloan even $10 million a year is a STEAL compared to the combined salary of the team under-performing.
that is for the future to find out.
what the Maloofs have to do RIGHT NOW is contact him and see if he would coach the Kings for a couple years.
If so, they drop Westphal on his a$$ (and I LIKE Westphal!) and see what a real coach can do for their team.
If the Maloofs do any less than that, they are dealing on assumptions and guesses and not trying hard to get this ultra-young team one of the best coaches EVER who specializes in getting the most out of his player's talent.
Paying Sloan even $10 million a year is a STEAL compared to the combined salary of the team under-performing.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
There is some question I hope everybody realizes, not only about whether Sloan would even want to come in to a team like ours midseason, but whether in such a chaotic mess it would even be a good decision. We've been playing well. Been right there. Fire the coaching staff, bring in a whole new one midseason, and a new one who is irascible and has never coached any group but the Jazz, and things could just fall apart. We are not fallen apart right now. Give me a handful of smart plays, maybe 1 extra made basket in several games, and we just got done beating the league's elite 5 of 6 games. We didn't of course. But would suddenly firing Westphal and bringing in an entirely new coach with a new system out of left field just allow us to smoothly get that extra hoop a game? Or is it more likely to disrupt and confuse a young team that finally looks to have it mostly figured out.
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The Utah Jazz without Jerry Sloan? I can't even picture what that would look like. That's bad news for Utah but good news for everyone else.
I don't think there's a coach in the league that I respect more. I don't know that he would rush off to another job right now -- especially in the middle of the season -- but even one or two years of Sloan establishing his system in Sacramento would probably help this team get better. I like Westphal, he's got some good qualities as a head coach, but I'm not too enamored with the job he's done this year. Shame that option for next year has already been picked up huh?
I don't think there's a coach in the league that I respect more. I don't know that he would rush off to another job right now -- especially in the middle of the season -- but even one or two years of Sloan establishing his system in Sacramento would probably help this team get better. I like Westphal, he's got some good qualities as a head coach, but I'm not too enamored with the job he's done this year. Shame that option for next year has already been picked up huh?
MizzouKing
Starter
I'm with Bricklayer on this one. We are finally done dealing with all the fallout that comes from major changes, and we're heading in the right direction. Shaking things to the core all over again would do irepairable harm to a team that's finally coming together and building in the right direction. Is Sloan a better coach than Westphal? No doubt! Is replacing Westphal with Sloan the right decision? NO WAY.
IfAt1st
Starter
You do whatever it takes to get Sloan as the coach of the Kings.
If he wants to wait till next year, all the better for all involved.
But if he wants to go RIGHT NOW - you pull that trigger and tell Westphal to be careful with the door on the way out.
(Again, I LIKE Westphal - hell, keep him on as an assistant coach)
If he wants to wait till next year, all the better for all involved.
But if he wants to go RIGHT NOW - you pull that trigger and tell Westphal to be careful with the door on the way out.
(Again, I LIKE Westphal - hell, keep him on as an assistant coach)
kennadog
Dog On It!
I can't imagine Sloan wanting to come to Sacramento at all. Resigining with an organization he's been with for so long is much different than signing somewhere completely foreign to him. He's enjoyed such great support in Utah, up until now. I think he's 79? Hard to start all ove somewhere new, especially mid-season. If he still wants to coach and I were him, I'd wait for the summer (see if there's a lockout) and then see what offers I got then start with a new team at training camp.
KeepTheKingsInSacramento
Prospect
I think Sloan should be done for good. Or at least if I were him right now, I'd decide to hang em up for good. If he wants to come back to the A$$-Oh-C-A-Shun to coach some more, please, Mr. Petrie and Mr. Maloof and Mr. Maloof, DO NOT HIRE JERRY SLOAN! WE DO NOT NEED JERRY SLOAN! JERRY SLOAN DOES NOT NEED US! IT WILL BE A MATCH MADE IN HE!!, NOT A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN!!!
He would not be able to do any more with this team than what Paul Westphal has been able to do. Sorry to break your hearts if anyone honestly believes otherwise, but that, my friends, is true...
He would not be able to do any more with this team than what Paul Westphal has been able to do. Sorry to break your hearts if anyone honestly believes otherwise, but that, my friends, is true...
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
That is complete speculation. Speculation is not fact. Opinion is not fact. You present something as a fact, yet back it up only with opinion, lacking any substance whatsoever?
Not to mention the track records of both says different. But hey, you're not interested in facts.
beb0p
Starter
Now is not the time to replace the coach. Plus, there is no rush, if Jerry Sloan wants to coach again, he'll at least wait until the summer to weight all his options.
Let's see what PW's accomplishment is at the end of the season, and if a new coach is needed then go after Sloan (assuming he still wants in the game).
Let's see what PW's accomplishment is at the end of the season, and if a new coach is needed then go after Sloan (assuming he still wants in the game).
KeepTheKingsInSacramento
Prospect
Actually the track record of both are not quite different. Cuz both have made it to the big stage, but have failed to win it as a coach. Only difference is that Sloan made it multiple times with the Jazz, and P-Dub did it only once with the Suns..
Ok Ok, you win, but I did not intend for my last post to sound like I am stating a "FACT" but rather to sound like I am stating my "OPINION"...So here is my edited version....I do not believe Jerry Sloan can do any better with this group than what Paul Westphal has been able to do.
That's just my opinion, take it for what its worth...
Also, not sure if I would want JS to coach this young of a team, not yet at least. Maybe if we were 2-3 years older, I'd say, hell yes lets give it a shot if he is interested, but I do not know if we want to risk hiring Sloan to coach this young of a team when, in all seriousness, he can bolt out of here in 2-3 years, leaving us where we currently are.
I'd rather wait it out with PW, get a high draft pick, and see if Westphal can improve the team next season. If he fails, I say hire a young coach with mad potential (i.e. Scotty Brooks) and let him develop the team...
FYI, the biggest mistake the Maloofs ever made, other than letting go of Adelman, is not hiring Brooks to replace MuscleWoman...
Well, he's apparently done enough coaching that behind-the-scenes arguments with one player are enough to make him walk away.
How do you imagine he'd enjoy dealing with DeMarcus? Or the unspecified bogeyman (bogeyMEN, most likely) who keeps getting blamed for not running the plays that get called now - how would Sloan deal with that if a spat with Deron Williams is enough to make him up and quit immediately after he signed an extension?
He wouldn't last a week here right now. All respect to Jerry Sloan, but he wouldn't last a week. You want to toss away Westphal, who for all of his faults seems to be the most patient person in the world, and who is starting to get results for a week of Jerry Sloan and then Kenny Natt v.2? That looks like a profoundly bad idea to me. Again, all respect to Jerry Sloan, but I doubt highly that he wants to be here, and I doubt highly that he'd tolerate being here. It's not a realistic dream.
KeepTheKingsInSacramento
Prospect
I agree, and you basically stated the same thing(s) I stated in my comment just before yours...Well said, my friend!
What I like about Jerry Sloan, as the coach of this team, is that he would come in and establish his system and this current team has a lot of talent but no system to make it work. I think we actually have more talent on our team than Utah does this year. We've underperformed horribly this season (until the last two weeks or so anyway). He's the type of head coach that earns respect from his players both because of his history and because he treats all of his players the same, even the superstars.
What I don't like about Sloan is that he's already been talking about retirement and it's unlikely he'll want to coach more than 2 or 3 seasons after this if he comes back at all. So he's not the coach of the future, he's a temporary rental. I also wonder if he'll be able to earn as much respect in a new organization with a short time frame in everyone's mind. 23 years in an organization earns you a lot of respect that you can't count on with a new team and a 2 or 3 year deal. Especially if those players are 20 and 21 years old and can simply wait you out instead of listening to your criticism. (I think DeMarcus and Tyreke are smarter than that though.)
Ultimately I think you could do a lot worse than a 2 or 3 year rental of one of the greatest coaches in NBA history. Unless what we already have going with Westphal is too good to break up -- I don't think it is -- I think it'd be worth giving it a try. Presumably he'd be bringing Phil Johnson with him if he did come, who's won a Coach of the Year award coaching the Kings in the past. He's almost as old as Sloan though.
What I don't like about Sloan is that he's already been talking about retirement and it's unlikely he'll want to coach more than 2 or 3 seasons after this if he comes back at all. So he's not the coach of the future, he's a temporary rental. I also wonder if he'll be able to earn as much respect in a new organization with a short time frame in everyone's mind. 23 years in an organization earns you a lot of respect that you can't count on with a new team and a 2 or 3 year deal. Especially if those players are 20 and 21 years old and can simply wait you out instead of listening to your criticism. (I think DeMarcus and Tyreke are smarter than that though.)
Ultimately I think you could do a lot worse than a 2 or 3 year rental of one of the greatest coaches in NBA history. Unless what we already have going with Westphal is too good to break up -- I don't think it is -- I think it'd be worth giving it a try. Presumably he'd be bringing Phil Johnson with him if he did come, who's won a Coach of the Year award coaching the Kings in the past. He's almost as old as Sloan though.
ArcoKings
Starter
PW's accomplishment will be less then 18 wins this season. The Kings need a new coach.
I would be on board with very privately calling him up and asking if he'd like to coach the team in a season or two. We all know PW has a limited shelf life and the team will outgrow him. But midseason transitions are never easy. And if word got out that they even thought about this and it didn't happen then there would be a revolt. Maybe offer him a job as a special consultant to the staff.
