[Grades] Grades v. Suns 12/26/2014

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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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Are we having fun yet?

Santa appears to have entirely bypassed the ole 916 (Sacto area code) this year, and dropped a big lump of coal on everybody's head. At least you hope its coal -- you do have a sled being pulled around by a bunch of reindeer flying around overhead.

So...we tried to outrun the Suns. Worked kinda like trying to outrun the Warriors. You're supposed to be a smart guy Vivek -- figuring the pattern out yet? Kayte did me a solid and put together the post coup defensive stats I was going to put together myself -- and guess what ladies and gents? We are right back to the same nonsense we've practiced around here for the past 8 years: dead last in defense. Who the hell cares if you score 104, 106, 108 points, if the opponent is scoring 110+ every night. Morons.

We also of course continued one of the most remarkable stretches of complete dependence on a single player I can recall. I lost track of the exact count, but we have to be something like 2-21 or so without Cuz over the last two years? Its ludicrous. Basically it means we'd be on pace to challenge for the worst basketball team in NBA history over 82 games. Maybe 7 wins or so.

Boxscore

Stats: 34min 16pts (7-15, 0-1, 2-2) 4reb 5ast 2stl 0blk 2TO
Gay ( C ) -- well, we had 7 guys reach double figures in this one. Is this the basketball "jazz" of which Vivek speaks? No structure, no leaders...I am being serious when I ask why did these guys fire Keith Smart besides a reflexive and increasingly its looking childish desire to mark their territory and kill everything touched by a Maloof? Because that was exactly the nonsense Smart preached. And Rudy, our only star without Cuz out there, was just one voice amongst many, and he even made it look hard with a lot of challenged high degree of difficulty stuff. At no point could I discern any particular plan or struture to what he was doing, or what we were doing with him. He would freelance, sometimes force up a tough shot against any of the Suns midsized athletes covering him, sometimes create for a teammate, as virtually the only guy passing, sometimes doing neither. He started slow, did not get his 2nd hoop until 4 minutes were left in the half, but surged down the stretch, and kept it going into the 3rd when he got some breakouts off of sloppy Suns play and both finished themselves and set up Ben for some of his points. Unfortunately on the other end he seemed to master the art of being just out of position on basically everybody, his man, switches, bigs, little, did not matter. Just close enough he did not look lost. Rarely close enough to effect shots. And so he became one of many guys contributing to our defensive non-existence. --Brick

Stats: 12min 2pts (1-1, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Thompson ( F- ) -- If there was a lower score I could give him I would. I realize JT only played 12 minutes, and I suppose you could chalk up some of his results to lack of minutes. But two points and one rebound. JT looked like he just wasn't interested. At one point he stood at the foul line on defense, guarding no one, and merely pointed at Len as he was heading to the basket with no one between him and the basket. No effort on JT's part to defend the basket at all. On his one attempt to post up in the second half, he turned the ball over. Absolutely terrible! --Baja

Stats: 32min 11pts (5-13, 0-1, 1-2) 16reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Evans ( C+ ) -- Unlike JT, Evans pulled down 16 boards tonight. One might think that it would be enough to get a higher grade, but about 7 of those rebounds were putbacks off his own misses when he had his shot blocked. But non the less, you have to commend the effort. And you always get effort from Reggie. He also scored eleven points on five of thirteen shooting. A couple of his baskets coming by way of putbacks of misses by Casspi. He did have a very nice post move in the first quarter when he banged left and then spun right and kissed it off the glass. He also had a nice drop step move later in the game, but missed the shot. All in all he did a good job, considering that the pace of the game didn't suit his physical abilities. 32 minutes of up and down the floor basketball is not the style I want Reggie playing. Defensively I don't want him going one on one with Dragic either. Dragic has a killer cross over by the way. Oh, and by the way, a little side note to Stauskas. Don't turn your head when your guarding Dragic. --Baja

Stats: 35min 13pts (5-14, 2-7, 1-3) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
McLemore ( C- ) -- if it were not for Derrick Williams out pointing him in this regard, I would say that Gentle Ben may have had the dubious honor of epitomizing NBA 3.0 tonight as he hit 5 shots, 2 alley oop dunks, 2 threes, and one we don't care about because it wasn't an alley opp or a three, and did little else. It was exciting. I was excited. I know you were too. Of course when your shooter is neither shooting (5-14FG, 2-7 from three) nor contributing anything else to the boxscore (2reb 1ast) chances are you are not dealing with a truly stellar grade, excitement or no. Had multiple near ballhandling issues in the early going against the quicker Suns guards, but managed to weeble and wobble his way around trouble and only finished the game with 1 credited turnover. He was playing some pretty good defense early, which was something in this game, and he hit a feet set corner three from Collison. But always with the good shots there was mixed in junk that he basically missed from the moment the neuron in his brain misfired and made him decide to take a bad shot. Followed the early three with a wild drive into heavy traffic that had no hope and triggered a Suns fastbreak. When he returned to the game all was forgiven as he took a long alley oop from Gay to cut the lead to 2, and while he didn't do anything thereafter for a full quarter, by the time he popped up again it was for another big alley oop from Rudy on the break to cut the lead to 81-80. So not only alley oops, in fact given that nothing happened we cared about in between we might even call them back to back alley oops, but also well timed back to back alley oops capping runs that got us right back even. Unfortunately then the 4th rolled around, and he did not get even one alley oop! It was like we were back in the 1950s. From a boring technical side he also started missing basically everything. Missed an open three, missed a technical FT after Omri got into it with IT, he did hit one solitary jumper (a boring one with no chance to be on Sportcenter) with us down 15 at the 4:30 mark, but we were gone by then, and it didn't ignite anything new for Ben as he went back, missed another corner three at the 3:30 mark, missed a layup at the 2:20 mark, and just generally had a bad shooting night. When we upgrade the Grading Consortium from 2.0 to 3.0 this will be an A for "Alley oop!". Still stuck in the hoary past though where things like substance matter, there wasn't much here.--Brick

Stats: 36min 19pts (5-12, 4-7, 5-6) 1reb 2ast 3stl 0blk 3TO
Collison ( C ) -- you know the great thing about the game last night? Our guards almost had the NBA 3.0 thing down pat, and 8 of the 10 shots they hit were either threes or alley oops. Progress! For Darren, a bit uncharacteristically that meant his contribution was as a three point shooter. In the first half he got two of the corner threes which he can hit, and in the third, he was one of the leaders of our comeback as he hit two more of the longer ones from up around the arc. Now, that meant he only hit 1 non three, but who cares. His 1reb and 2ast meant we got a total of 3reb and 3ast from our two starting 35+min guards on the night, combined, but who cares. He hit 4 threes! He also added in one nice defensive tie up of IT on the break in the first half, although strength against Bledsoe was an issue. There were some random seeming turnovers, as sans Cuz DC's limitations as a creater have been really exposed and his assists in the month of December are down to 4.8/per game. But again, he hit 4 threes, and that was exciting.--Brick
 
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Stats: 22min 16pts (7-9, 1-2, 1-3) 5reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Williams ( B+ ) -- and here he truly is: Mr NBA 3.0. Maybe even the guy who gerbil was so upset was not being used correctly. Put him in a defenseless run up and down the court with your brain stem turned off NBA 3.0 game, and look at the DWill put up those numbers on a losing team! In the early going it was a bit of a dubious pleasure, as while he came in attacking on offense, got an alley oop (fun! entertaining! yay!) and a wild finish inside, he also missed a pair of FTs and was being scored on back the other way by the Morris twins as fast as he was scoring on ours. But I think after a while the snark was less warranted, as he was in his element, which of course picked up his whole game, suddenly he got aggressive on the d-boards, , got a finish through Len hanging in the air, and was generally very marketble to the Bangladeshi market. Lost a bit of steam during the halftime break, came out and missed a jumper (a jumper!) and was less hypereffective. But he did get another hustling o-reb and finish, and compared to JT was Charles Barkley out there. Played defense like Barkley too. --Brick

Stats: 18min 11pts (3-5, 0-0, 5-6) 5reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Casspi ( B+ ) --thank heaven for Omri again, as he was about the only King you could watch out there without wincing half the time, again. Along with DWill made a real punchy appearance off the bench in the first half in particular, and was doing it the right way. While DWill was doing his attack the rim thing, Omri was often the guy setting him up and notched several assists as he goosed us into picking up our pace. He was also running the floor, and in a rare event in this one, came up with a big defensive stop when he went up inside and blocked Len at the rim. Best overall player on the floor for us I thought, and cut to the rim and took the pass from Rudy to tie the game in the final seconds of the half. When he returned in the third came back in with huge energy again, was missing finishes inside, but they were working like passes as Reggie cleaned them up and laid them in. Wasn't as effective as he had been in the first half though, and got into a bit with IT int he early 4th as we started to refade, and incident which unfortunately seemed to spark IT's competitiveness and help him bury us.
--Brick

Stats: 15min 12pts (6-14, 0-0, 0-0) 8reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Landry ( B- ) -- came in and shotclock viollation on first attempt to get it to him. Huge struggle against Len's length but a certain amount of relentless below the rim play as he began to get his finishing game going inside. Stymied below the rim again after returning in the late third, but finally squeaked one through just on pure determination. Out of a timeout in the early 4th with us down 12 started a wild drive, appeared to travel, but reset and got the finish inside anyway. Lots of attempts on the night, not lots of finsihed below the rim, a lot of struggles, grabbing the misses/blocked shots, more struggles. Productive numbers in just a messy high volume sort of way. --Brick

Stats: 26min 4pts (2-8, 0-0, 0-0) 5reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
McCallum ( C ) -- looked good in the early going of this one, coming in in the late first and pushing the pace. Took a screen and darted right to the open rim in the early 2nd, and added a high arcing prayer over Len. Along with Rudy, the only guy to notch any assists for us tonight. But his offense dried up as usual, and things fell apart on his second half watch, and he wasn't able to slow IT at all once he got going, which you would imagine was probably the situation in practices last year. Better than a Sessions game? Eh.. --Brick

Stats: 9min 2pts (0-2, 0-2, 2-2) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Stauskas ( INC ) -- in in the late first. Missed his threes and outclevered by Dragic on defense. Still no signs we have a backup SG this season. Odd how Malone couldn;t make a team with no backup C, backup PG or backup SG, and no starting PF, win many games wihtout Cuz. --Brick
 
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i'm smarter than vivek. i know s*** like analytics and think 7 steps ahead. we're on pace for another high lotto pick! i know what i'm doing!
 
Our pace the last 3 games is 4th in the league and likely higher after tonight.

We've given up
104
108
108
128
115
since Malone got fired.

47% FG percentage against over those 5 games.

Our starting lineup was top 5 in the league under Malone in both PPG against and FG% against have steadily risen since he got canned. This is a direct byproduct of our FO and Vivek. It's a change in style which is making us less competitive wusses.
 
#Carl Landry really picked up the slack for Ramon Sessions not playing the amount of ridiculous forced shots and stupid passes was something legends are made off
#No surprise the only player on the entire roster that benefits playing full court bball Derrick went off.
#Casspi aka Mr fix it was terrific did everything easily our best player
#Rudy made some tough shots but his defense at times and the fact he never decided to even challenge himself and try guard one of the Morris twins was embarrassing
#Collison, needs to shoot the ball more he's imo our 2nd best shooter after Ben stop pump faking for the love of god...had some awful turnovers
#Reggie did a few nice things but his defense allowed for Alex Len to look like Tyson Chandler
#Ben was just ok...the fast game aside from the odd alley hoop does not suit Ben, the less controlled basketball you play the worse Ben plays, it's the reason why he struggled in summer league and it's the reason everytime he has a bad stretch it cause we/he are going to quick
#Ray......unless he turns into a elite shooter he can't penetrate well enough for a NBA PG, he also lacks play making ability, he has to be a 3 and D guy or else he's a 3rd PG at best.
#JT..........I have nothing


This is just crap, this is basically the Kings we know and have grown to accept, the sad thing is the next 4 games are against scrub teams and we could easily be with a healthy Cousins 1 game below 500. and I doubt we will even do that.
 
I was there. From a "product" standpoint, it was pretty crapty. Disorganized on offense, halfcourt defense mediocre. The only reason we scored so many points was due to pacing. Honestly, the offense looked more cohesive under Malone. Let that sink in.
The seats were nice though, and I grabbed a sixer of 21st Amendment before the game, so all was not bad. ;)


Gee, I love scoring points!
 
difference between a month ago and now? defined roles on the team and there was structure. everybody knew what was expected of them. now? we're playing jazz baby. everybody freelance 3.0 style.
 
we need to lose and lose for a few years so it gets through to the head of the snake. we'll rack up a few more lotto picks which hopefully can replace boogie when he decides to take his talents to south beach.
 
Fire PDA already. Stupid gerbil.
Can't fire him yet.. it'll make Vivek look even worse... I think Vivek was listening to everyone in the FO about the firing of Malone. I think Pete was the one who fired him.

Pete is behind all of this.. but it'll make our organization look terrible as a whole if we fire Pete this season.
 
The game was fun ... at times. Just enough to deceive me into being hopeful again. But then, SoSDD. Casspi and Williams got iced because they were doing too well?

The highlight of the night for me was getting into a bit of a Twitter twist with Aaron Bruski and that's not what I want to be doing during a Kings game.

This is a trainwreck of previously unparalleled proportions. Ty Corbin looked like he'd been hit by the train. I am now actively encouraging everyone to send tweets to @Vivek and @Pdoro - remind them that they said this was our team and that we demand a coach that can right the ship, a guy who can get us back on course - and whatever other nautical references you may want to add.

I won't fault the team tonight because they really tried, but when you're up to your arse in alligators it's hard to remember your original objective was to drain the swamp.

Just one month ago these guys were playing defense, they were playing TEAM ball, they were enjoying themselves and entertaining us. All that is gone and the blame falls on the guy who fired our coach.

They need to make it right and they need to do it NOW.
 
Hi guys.

Just like you, I have watched the terrific beginning of this Bball year of the kings.

Just like you I have watched, the development of Dmac.

Just like you I have watched fine Manager like Malone and better defense.

Just like you I have watched Dmac get injured, the Sac lose few games and the owners fire him for no reasonable reason at all. I really believe that with him the Sac had a chance to get to the PO, as they have looked like a unit... And not so much now(but let's see in the next few games).

Just like you, I have watched Omri developed his game, in both ends of the floor and become to be a real asset. scoring 55% of his shots. And I don't know if there are other SF out there more efficient(and even tonight he was the only player with a positive +\-). So I wonder, why not to play him much more, if it's for the benefit of the team.

Just like you, I have watched all of those things... And just like you, some of the things are not so transparent to me. It's just frustrating, because unlike in the last years, the Kings had and still have the potential with a really fine consistent unit, in Dmac/collison/Ben/Casspi/gay, to reach the PO, with the right Manager. I'm Not yet ready to lose hope for this year... Like a run of defeats, can come a run of wins, this team have shown it has it in it... They just need the right -team- players in the game and the right/wise direction followed with charisma and fire, from the manager side.
 
so your advocating putting mully in mid-season when he needs a summer to get his staff and full training camp? they have a plan in place just waiting for the fans to endure it for a few more months. meanwhile you should get some popcorn and enjoy the ride. it's going to be compelling.
 
Our pace the last 3 games is 4th in the league and likely higher after tonight.

We've given up
104
108
108
128
115
since Malone got fired.

47% FG percentage against over those 5 games.

Our starting lineup was top 5 in the league under Malone in both PPG against and FG% against have steadily risen since he got canned. This is a direct byproduct of our FO and Vivek. It's a change in style which is making us less competitive wusses.

You just don't understand. It's not about wins and losses. It's about style of play . . .
 
Hi guys.

Just like you, I have watched the terrific beginning of this Bball year of the kings.

Just like you I have watched, the development of Dmac.

Just like you I have watched fine Manager like Malone and better defense.

Just like you I have watched Dmac get injured, the Sac lose few games and the owners fire him for no reasonable reason at all. I really believe that with him the Sac had a chance to get to the PO, as they have looked like a unit... And not so much now(but let's see in the next few games).

Just like you, I have watched Omri developed his game, in both ends of the floor and become to be a real asset. scoring 55% of his shots. And I don't know if there are other SF out there more efficient(and even tonight he was the only player with a positive +\-). So I wonder, why not to play him much more, if it's for the benefit of the team.

Just like you, I have watched all of those things... And just like you, some of the things are not so transparent to me. It's just frustrating, because unlike in the last years, the Kings had and still have the potential with a really fine consistent unit, in Dmac/collison/Ben/Casspi/gay, to reach the PO, with the right Manager. I'm Not yet ready to lose hope for this year... Like a run of defeats, can come a run of wins, this team have shown it has it in it... They just need the right -team- players in the game and the right/wise direction followed with charisma and fire, from the manager side.
I think if the Kings really want to pull through with this high tempo type of offense, they need to trade everyone except for Cousins, Gay, Casspi, and Ben. I believe the Kings can succeed if Pete makes some amazing trades this year AND gets us a HC that can fit running with those 4 players.

Who would've thought 2 years ago, SF was our weakest position has turned into our strongest position? I believe that Pete can continue to make those amazing things happen. I just hope he does it soon. I believe our team can still reach the 8th seed IF we bring in the right players, personnel's, and coaches. It may be a long shot, but I don't think it's impossible. I'm still trying to be very optimistic this season because I love this team.
 
Hi guys.

Just like you, I have watched the terrific beginning of this Bball year of the kings.

Just like you I have watched, the development of Dmac.

Just like you I have watched fine Manager like Malone and better defense.

Just like you I have watched Dmac get injured, the Sac lose few games and the owners fire him for no reasonable reason at all. I really believe that with him the Sac had a chance to get to the PO, as they have looked like a unit... And not so much now(but let's see in the next few games).

Just like you, I have watched Omri developed his game, in both ends of the floor and become to be a real asset. scoring 55% of his shots. And I don't know if there are other SF out there more efficient(and even tonight he was the only player with a positive +\-). So I wonder, why not to play him much more, if it's for the benefit of the team.

Just like you, I have watched all of those things... And just like you, some of the things are not so transparent to me. It's just frustrating, because unlike in the last years, the Kings had and still have the potential with a really fine consistent unit, in Dmac/collison/Ben/Casspi/gay, to reach the PO, with the right Manager. I'm Not yet ready to lose hope for this year... Like a run of defeats, can come a run of wins, this team have shown it has it in it... They just need the right -team- players in the game and the right/wise direction followed with charisma and fire, from the manager side.

Welcome to KF! Always good to get another international fan.

Right now, Omri is one of the few bright spots in what has been a depressing couple of weeks. He has really worked hard on his game and it shows.
 
Welcome to KF! Always good to get another international fan.

Right now, Omri is one of the few bright spots in what has been a depressing couple of weeks. He has really worked hard on his game and it shows.

Yeah Omri has been great and really plays hard night in and night out. Doesn't get great results every time but you never question his effort or motivations. He's a great teammate and a real overachiever.

PDA takes a lot of crap as GM and rightfully so but as I have said his actual personnel decisions have been pretty good. Casspi was a great value signing as was Collison. I still like the Williams trade in terms of sheer value of talent, and the Rudy trade was good. Drafting Ben was also good. Would be nice if he'd leave his own roster (and coach) alone and let them grow while continuing to build the roster.
 
so your advocating putting mully in mid-season when he needs a summer to get his staff and full training camp? they have a plan in place just waiting for the fans to endure it for a few more months. meanwhile you should get some popcorn and enjoy the ride. it's going to be compelling.

Sometimes you have to rub your puppy's nose in the mess when it poops on the carpet.
 
The positives for me this year are McLemore and Casspi. They both are keepers. (D-Will has to have some consistency before I can get on his bandwagon). The rest are all meh for me, with the exception of Cousins of course.
 
Casspi is really a a great player. That is a no brainer considering his contract, but he plays really well even if we leave the contract outside the consideration. His shooting percentage keeps hanging there around 55%, which is great for a SF. He is a good passer and rebounds well. I nice block tonight. He's aways contesting shots. The one thing that has become more obvious is that to make the best of DWill, you have to have Casspi on the floor. Casspi feeds him just the way DWill needs the ball to finish and they both shine in fast tempo basketball.
 
Entertaining at times. Our players are athletic, make great plays and run. But somehow the other team always beats us by double digits. How is it humanly possible for the other team to shoot so well? It's hard to fathom.
 
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