[Grades] Grades v. Spurs 3/28/12

[JB_kings]

Yet I know you watched the game, and he WAS hitting the jumpers.

He didn't take as many as he should have. A team like the Spurs isn't going to change their game plan based on making one or two perimeter shots.

 

[Spike]

He didn't take as many as he should have. A team like the Spurs isn't going to change their game plan based on making one or two perimeter shots.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Are we willing to accept that this season is lost and let Evans shoot his way into a better jump shot? After all, we do want him to improve, right? It's not going to happen unless you work at it against live competition.

He wasn't ever set up for any perimeter shots in last night's game. IT set him up for one in the early going, Thornton for one, and the rest went to Cousins. I'm certainly not blaming him for tossing them into Cousins, but he didn't really get Evans involved after the half, and certainly not in the 4th. If his role is distributor/getting everyone involved, then he's failing at it.

 

[JB_kings]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Are we willing to accept that this season is lost and let Evans shoot his way into a better jump shot? After all, we do want him to improve, right? It's not going to happen unless you work at it against live competition.

He wasn't ever set up for any perimeter shots in last night's game. IT set him up for one in the early going, Thornton for one, and the rest went to Cousins. I'm certainly not blaming him for tossing them into Cousins, but he didn't really get Evans involved after the half, and certainly not in the 4th. If his role is distributor/getting everyone involved, then he's failing at it.

I want him to drive, stop and pop. It would cure him of his natural want to fade because he would be driving into the shot. I don't have a problem with him working productively on this for the rest of the season. Coach's comments seem to support that too. He wanted him to shoot more against the Spurs.

 

[Tetsujin]

I want him to drive, stop and pop. It would cure him of his natural want to fade because he would be driving into the shot. I don't have a problem with him working productively on this for the rest of the season. Coach's comments seem to support that too. He wanted him to shoot more against the Spurs.

That would require Reke actually touching the ball which is becoming increasingly rare as MT and IT have the ball gravitational pull of an expanding sun.

 

[Bricklayer]

Give the Spurs some credit for great defense when they needed it. Popovich has won 5 rings because he knows how to take away what the opposing team wants to do. They focused on Evans because he lit them up last time. The Spurs decided to make someone else beat them. Evans is a driving fool but his game is difficult to feature in the NBA because he has some limitations. It is good to see that he now is using his left hand like a professional. I liked Smart's line in the locker room last night when he said Evans needs to take the shots the defense gives him ... even if he misses all of them. Evans hasn't adjusted yet to the NBA quality defense. He still drives into 3 guys at once and makes the ugliest turnovers of the game. It is interesting that everyone is crying about Evans and no one mentioned that Thomas got 28 with 10 assists. Professional atheletes should not whine because they have to adjust their games to fit their teams. Neither should the forum wanna be coaches.

I think someone may have stepped in their own goo. This thread sounds like a bunch of old women making a quilt.

Load of crap.

Tyreke Evans has been in this league 3 years, averaging 18.5ppg over that span. He ANNIHILATED this same Spurs team just two months ago to the tune of 23pts 11rebs 7ast and the backbreaking game winning shot. In that three year period Tyreke has NEVER once been frozen out of the offense to the tune of 5 shots in a game. NEVER ONCE. Not even close in fact. For the coach or anybody else to suggest that suddenly Tyreke Evans doesn't know how to score or attack NBA defenses is just ridiculous. The way this is going in a couple of years time Kings fans are probably going to get a much deserved demonstration of that when Reke comes back to town to face our 30th ranked defnese keyed by defensive stalwart guards IT and MT. It ain't going to be pretty.

 

[ParniValjak]

Load of crap.

Tyreke Evans has bveen in this league 3 years, averaging 18ppg over that span. He ANNIHILATED this same Spurs team just two months ago to the tune of 23pts 11rebs 7ast and the backbreaking game winning shot. In that three year period Tyreke has NEVER once been frozen out of the offense to the tune of 5 shots in a game. NEVER ONCE. Not even close in fact. For the coach or anybody else to suggest that suddenly Tyreke Evans doesn't know how to score or attack NBA defenses is just ridiculous. The way this is going in a couple of years time Kings fans are probably going to get a much deserved demonstration of that when Reke comes back to town to face our 30th ranked defnese keyed by defensive stalwart guards IT and MT. It ain't going to be pretty.

Also prior to yesterday's game, these are Tyreke's career stats against the Spurs (7 games):

20.42ppg, 5.6rpg, 6apg, 37mpg, 0.464 (17.85 FGA), .300 (2.85 3PA), .636 (4.71 FTA)

His only other comparably bad game against the Spurs was his first one (and 3rd one as a PRO) where he had 6 points on 3-9 shooting in 24 minutes. Take that game out and the numbers above become even more dominant.

The Spurs defense has been great but it is no different to what Tyreke has faced against them every time he has played them. The **** game he had yesterday has less to do with the great Spurs defense and a lot more to do with how he is used nowdays.

But hey we wouldn't be the Sacramento Kings if we don't continually shoot ourselves in the foot with some retarded moves and consequences that come from those moves.

 

[VF21]

Was this really a lineup problem, an Evans problem, a somebody problem? I don't think so. Credit no. 1 the Spurs, they deserve a lot, a whole lot of credit, credit our propensity to make too many foolish attempts on offense, as always, couple of key break downs while Spurs made a couple of key successful plays. Otherwise, I don't believe it proved anything new about the Kings.

Keep emphasizing team play, looking for open shots or passing, hustling back on defense like a guard oriented team should be particularly good at (we're not). Do these sorts of things and all will begin to fall into place.

Can't do that. We have to find someone on our own team to blame for the problems.

 

[mac]

That would require Reke actually touching the ball which is becoming increasingly rare as MT and IT have the ball gravitational pull of an expanding sun.

You and Spike seem to be the only ones seeing what I see. Tyreke isn't getting set up, isn't getting the ball. If he pulls up for shots people call him selfish, if he doesn't he's passive. I watched the game and did not see these opportunities for good shots he was apparently supposed to take.

 

[rainmaker]

You and Spike seem to be the only ones seeing what I see. Tyreke isn't getting set up, isn't getting the ball. If he pulls up for shots people call him selfish, if he doesn't he's passive. I watched the game and did not see these opportunities for good shots he was apparently supposed to take.

Lol, really? I feel I've harped too much on this for this forum and have tried censoring myself somewhat.

But yes, I agree with you two. Kind of funny how a couple weeks ago it seemed Reke had been told specifically not to shoot jumpers, as his long 2's and 3 pt attempts dropped dramatically. Now Smart wants him to fire up jumpers? That's what he said yesterday.

So that's Smart's excuse. Reke goes 3-4 in the 1st half, and he couldn't find a way to get him a single shot in the flow of the offense the entire 2nd half. His one 2nd half shot was a pass to him under the hoop with 2-3 secs on the shot clock. That's it. IT/MT completely play keep away, and Smart's response is Reke didn't shoot enough jumpers. This really isn't funny, at all, and people wonder why Reke's confused.

He starts firing up jumpers and Smart will say he's not getting people involved enough, as he said over a month ago. Need a coach who doesn't change his mind and make idiotic excuses every other day and constantly contradict himself.

 

[ppine]

From the bee today a good article on Evans and what Smart wants him to do.

101,
Thanks for the reference. I have to work hard to find coverage of the Kings in Nevada and the Bee.

Anyone who really thinks that Evans had trouble scoring against San Antonio because "he wasn't being used properly", needs to open their eyes and realize that Evans cannot drive on a team that is waiting for him, and he can't shoot over the top of them either.

 

[Lockehead]

The last game showcased a bit of chemistry growing between IT and Cousins. IT's making a good case for him in being our primary PG for now.

I doubt IT/Thornton/Reke on the floor at the same time is ever going to work as a legitimate starting lineup, theres only one ball and too many guys need it. Between IT/Thornton/Cuz and IT/Reke/Cuz, i choose the latter.

On another note, i think the Reke being out of place thing in the Spurs game, isnt about him being out of place at all, or "frozen out" for that matter. The Spurs took away a part of his game. After that his options were limited. The thing is for him to continue developing his game and in effect his position as well.