Grades v. Spurs 11/02

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Bricklayer

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Well, these early games are playing hell with my planned themes. After watching that...that....thing...that happened on the court, I made an insto-decision to scrap tongiht's theme in favor of a standby that I wanted to save for a particularly bad night at the office. Welll...tongiht was a bad night at the office. Hence tonight's themes: Great Horror Flicks (not involving the Kings)

Salmons ( C ) -- came out and played a really selfish first half for us to make a significant contribution ot our humiliation. Ignored open teammates, drove intot he teeth of the defense, threw up junk etc. Maybe was thinking he was better than he was after the New Orleans game, but whatever it was, he was playing like Kobe's far less talented pet gerbil. Led to a quick hook and Cisco's insertion for much of the half. Came out after halftime much better, and if you look at the boxscore finsihed with some nice well rounded numbers. Unfortunately for him I happened to actually watch the game, not just read the box. In the second half his rebounding was appreciated, as for the second straight game outr completely pathetic frontline was outrebounded by a swingman (actually two -- Cisco was second on the team tongiht). But you aren't going to be able to get yourself much of a grade on my scale for being terrible when it matters, and then padding your stats in the world's longest garbagetime.
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THE THING (1982) -- Long a personal fave of mine, and still arguably the scariest movie I have ever seen. Although it was belatedly recognized as such (the legend being that reviewers in 1982 just weren't ready for a horror movie this "hard" and were still used to Spielberg blowing ET bubbles up their butts), this was arguably John Carpenter's greatest masterpiece, from back in the days before he turned into a sad old parody of himself. Great score. Great casting. Great special effects. And a wonderfully bleak ending. But the true brilliance was in the nature of the creature, or more specifically in the utter paranoia it inspired amongst a completely isolated crew in the Antartic. Oft imitated, never really equalled. Until I saw the first half of the game tonight, I had begun to despair of ever again seeing anything so horrifying again.


Thomas ( F ) -- abysmal start, made even worse by Grant and Jerry blabbing on about how we should look for Kenny to play Duncan juat about even(!!) I mean...good lord, that's just embarrassing. Kenny rewarded their confidence too by immediately blwoing a layup, clunking a short hook, and getting quickly yanked out of the game. Got called back from the doghouse to start the 4th, and may never get out again. The Spurs surprised him with probably the first double team he has ever seen in his NBA career, and he promptly panicked and threw the ball into the stands. This was just an embarrassing "effort", and if I had to guess might very well have cost him his starting spot after all of two games. Of course given how badly all of the other pretenders at the postion suck, he may get another chance at it in a few weeks after Reggie completely throws up his hands.
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ALIEN -- I have a fairly expansive definition of horror. This all time famous movie of course could be classified as scifi. But it wasn't about the science, or even the future. That was all just a backdrop to get a group of people stuck alone with something utterly terrifying. Kind of like we Kings fans were with Kenny's game tonight. You know a movie is famous when not only does it spawn careers (Sigourney Weaver), and innumerable inferior ripoffs, but that scenes and details of scenes are known by people that never in a million years would watch it. Brilliantly atmospheric, it has since nearly been washed away by the utterly terrible "sequels" of the past 15 years made by boobs with no idea why it worked in the first place. Nearly, but not quite. P.S. Note where it says "director's cut" on that poster? Do not EVER get a director's cut for one of the Alien movies (or msot movies). Directors are often egotistical idiots about those things. There are reasons those things got cut, and inevitably puttting them back in ruins the pacing and atmosphere.

Miller ( C- ) -- only Kings player to score in the first 6 minutes of the game as he awesomely poured in two jumpers. Yay. Oberto was kicking his butt down inside too. By default was part of the one effective crew we had on the night that Reggie brought out to start the third quarter, and for the most part again awesomely poured in devastating open 18 foot jumpers. As he also awesomely grabbed 4 more rebounds tonight for us, let me just say that I remain unconvinced that becoming even smaller and weaker is doing the trick to make him into a board monster. Second night in a row he can claim to be the best we had up front off a most uninspiring 13pt 4reb effort. Spurs never let him do anything with his passing either.
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PSYCHO -- this is horror for women. And I don't really mean that in a demeaning way. I just mean that I think this extremely famous horror flick was designed to cater more to deep seated fears that women have then those that men have. I, for instance, do not find Anthony Perkins remotely frightening. Nor his mother. And if the skinny little twerp were to surprise me in the shower, well a) he'd be weird, but b) I think I'd probably just take his cute little knife away from him and give him a noogie before kicking him out the door. But the movie remains a huge part of pop culture all these years later, and helped birth the whole idea of a "slasher flick" taken to such heights (or depths) in the modern day.


Martin ( C ) -- invisible while the carnage got under way, had a couple of open court steals off of lazy long passes, but nothing on offense. Finally got a cheapie on the break after a Cisco steal and managed to get a few points before half, but was completely irrelevant. Shot 2-8, and kept on leaving guys wide open at the three point line. Came out as part of our lone crew tol do anything in the third quarter, and got his points in decent fashion. But the game was long over of course, and Kevin has really got to start helping us in other ways here. He got 22 irrelevant points, and then chipped in with all of 1reb and 1 ast in 39 minutes. As an aside, had the worst +/- on the team tonight too. Not all him, but an indication that his points alone weren't helping much.
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THE RING -- I was not terrified by this movie, but it stands here not only for itself, but for the whole wash of Japanese horrror flicks of the last 10 years which reuse the same imagery (dead girl with her black hair in front of her face, little kid with dark eyes etc.) to such disturbing effect. And this one was quite well done. Made you uneasy, and then I am ashamed to admit hit me hard with its freaky ending -- any movie that can make me afraid of a 10-12yr old girl is doing something right. Weird how creepy that imagery is, even if it has been used so much now that it is running on fumes.
 
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Greene ( D ) -- hustled as we died early, did nothing else. I feel sorry for the guy -- this was supposed to be his big chance to truly establish himself in the NBA, and he's just completely overwhelmed by it. Has shown absolutely no ability to run the team. Sure, he plays a little defense, he tries, he hit the floor some. But he's not a PG. Or at least not an effective one. And in both of these games he has done aboslutely nothing out there to control action, and has ended up spending most of the night on the bench. Worst part for him, and us, is that looking at the skills he has shown, and not shown, I don't see any realistic way for him to change things. He simply does not have the ballhandling, visions, court awareness, leadership to be an NBA point. I know Ron thinks he could be one of the best in the league, but I would suggest best to take that with a tiny grain of salt.
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THE SHINING -- perhaps overrated in many ways, but while I am not in the least bit afraid of Jack Nicholson, and am rarely afraid of ghosts, putting the two together along with Jack's descent into madness (which is where the real horror comes form in this one) makes for a very famous movie. Wonderful score as well -- something interesting that unites many of these movies. Whether the music makes the fear, or the fear cements the music/sounds in our minds, the sounds and music of so many of the movies on this list are almost as famous/distinctive as the movies themselves.

Moore ( D+ ) -- Mikki is really off to a helluva start for us. We keep on trying to post him up, and Moore does not have a post game. Know Reggie wishes he did, but come on now. Its ugly. He's a jumpshooter, not a post guy. I have also noticed that he has bad hands -- sort of anti-Webber hands when he tries to board. He's fairly active, and wil get a hand on quite a few balls, but he rarely comes down with them. Some of that may be the lack of strength, but I think its more than that. Some people just have a knack. He does not. And poorly as he played, and it was poor, so sad were the other contenders for that PF spot that Mikki got the position by default in our lone stretch of good play in the 3rd quarter. I wouldn't read too much into it, but would say he's got as good a chance as anybody to start at PF tommorow.
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HALLOWEEN -- and the second John Carpenter flick to make it on here. The granddaddy of the slasher flicks -- even Friday the 13th was ripoff of this formula. And so yes it at some level has to be held responsible for all the crap that followed, including its own contemptible sequels. But damn if that first one -- at the time the highest grossing independent flick of all time -- wasn't well done. The bone white mask (quick bit of triiva -- a bleached Wiliam Shatner mask), always in the background, in the yarf, peering in a window, and of course another famous score back before Carpenter decided that bad heavy metal music was the true key to great horror.

Douby ( D ) -- certainly played tonight like a man still in a fog from the concussion, and came in being selfish -- gunned up some dumb shots to help our first quarter struggle, and really didn't change that much through the game. Missed more than a few open teammates, and more than a few of his forced shots as well. He was part of the only group to do anything in the third quarter, as Greene just cannot run the position. But he was a PG by twerpiness only, and spent most of his time splitting between turning it over and chucking up bricked threes.
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JAWS -- speaking of slightly famous scores... Of course having seen this movie 1355 times on TNT, there is not much pop left. But it created quite the phenomenon in its time and served to forever make people think differently about hopping into those ocean waves. Of course the series would not really reach its peak until Jaws IV, featuring a shark on a personal vendetta who could follow airplanes across the ocean, identify members of a family on sight, and politely leap out of the water to impale itself on the bows of ships.

Cisco ( C ) -- came in with some defensive hustle plays to help, and in fact was probably our best player in the first half. Certainly the one vocal guy trying to lead. But led nowhere, and could not hit a shot himself, thus joining the ugly ugly collapse. Was not part of the third quarter crew, but did come in in garbagetime to pad his stats a bit. Outrebounded everyhone on our pathetic frontline once again.
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NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD -- what later day zombie flick makers (including ironically the original master himself it seems) have forgotten is that zombies are pathetic monsters. They aren't supposed to be SCARY, in the way the alien in Alien is scary. They were meant to be psychologically damning, to be a commentary on society, and to put the characters at the center of the story under stress. As monsters...I mean any remotely competent (which the people never are) person should be able to survive indefinitely pursued by the classic shambling types in this movie. But its the horror of them being loved ones, acquaintances, and the horror of how crappy people might react under that stress, that was really at the heart of this movie.
 
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Reef ( D- ) -- in the first half maybe the first King (other than Brad with his jumpers) to take a shot within his comfort zone with one of his spinning posts. Still missed it. And..that was almost it. Did get one offensive rebnound and putback in the second half when someboyd blew an assignment. But really, still looks completely unready to go. Think he maybe should have taken more time off, but just wanted so badly to get involved in this awesome PF battle we have going on.
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INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS -- an appropriate title, as somebody snatched Reef and his career some years ago and replaced him with a shell. I chose the 1978 version, just because it eliminated a bit of the datedness of the 1956 version, but both were excellent in much the same way The Thing was, playing on the paranoia of not being able to trust even your closest friends. Of being alienated and truly alone. You will note I did NOT use the version made this summer, which by all reports was just a pathetic joke.

Watkins ( D+ ) -- for a second straight game got in only after all the other vets proved completely incompetent. Unfortunately this time, after a brief encouraging start, did very little himself. Its really hard to keep all of these grades in scale, because they all sucked, its just a mtater of degree. Darrel at least did not suck for his first two minutes. But thereafter did very little for the remaining 12-13. Still might arguably have been better than any of our $20 million of PF artery plaque, but this time out the gap was certainly not nearly as large.


Reggie ( D+ ) -- two games in and Reggie is already losing his mind. This was a complete embarrassment in the first half (in fact setting the all time franchise record for futility with a grand total of 23pts (to 50 for the bad guys), and he was just screaming at the team during timeouts. He was completely desperate for someone, anyone, to help, and used up every player on the roster by midway through the second quarter, and just started yanking them in and out in groups looking for anything that would work. After what I am sure was an interesting halftime speech, he went with an opposite approach in the 3rd quarter, trotting out a Douby, Kevin, Salmons, Moore, Miller combo that I guess he hoped would score if nothing else, and sticking with them through the entire quarter. And they slowly got better and were respectable by the end. The Spurs were already packing it in, so their effectiveness has to be taken with a grain of salt (Tony Parker was the only Spur to play 30+min and he played all of 31). But at least they did not continue the embarrassment of a 7-36 first half (I mean...wow). In fact for the second night in a row I thought that we might run it up on the backups enough to inspire the return of the opponent's top guns (our new form of acheivement -- its a victory if we can beat your backups enough to force you to squish us with your starters some more). But the Spurs did not panic, even when we got it down to 13 in the early 4th, and their backups promptly rained threes on us again until it was back up to 21. As for Reggie...well, its been a colorful trip. Have to tell him, continuing to insist on posting up guys like Mikki or Brad will not work. That's not playing to their strengths, and they aren't that good even when you do use them correctly. Its also clear that the urgings toward defense and rebounding...well, let's just say they aren't working. And I'm not sure how this is going to go now -- after only two games Reggie is already screaming at the team, yanking guys in and out, frantically searching for answers. Looking to light a fire. And I hope he succeeds, because the flip side of that is guys get pissed at the coach rather than themselves, and tune him out. There's a balance there I hope he can find. In any case, like any coach when your team gets exterminated off the block, you have to wonder about the pregame readiness. The third quarter was better, and I am sure the sounds coming out of that locker room at halftime would have made grown men blush. But two games in now, I am still wondering exactly what our gameplan is. Against the Hornets I at least saw the defensive gameplan of trying to trap Paul for a while. But in this one? Besides posting guys who should not post, I have no idea what we are trying to do out there. Its scary to think that Beno Udrih now looms as some sort of savior just because maybe we can run an actual offense with him out there.
 
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Brick's going to have to grade this team on a different scale, I think.:o


Naw! Pick the Kings player of the game and give him a D. Then just give F's all around for everyone else. Our guys would have to play A+ games in the 2nd half just to get C minuses overall for the game. :(
 
i was thinking he could do the rule where everyone gets a turn and we don't hurt anyones feelings. :p or he could grade on a curve.:eek:
 
Or he could just give them certificates of participation because the grades might hurt their feelings.

:p
 
Hrm. Gotta give some credit for heart and hustle and whatever Reggie used to motivate them into even coming out of the locker room for the third quarter. The guys willing to show the effort were the ones on the court...and I LIKE IT!!!
 
Is their anybody here that wants to try and sell me to the fact that Bibby is not a leader. The guys on the court are totally lost with out Bibby and or Artest. Nobody is stepping up to be the guy that takes charge. Cisco seems to be the leader now as he is the only one communicating while the other zombies run around looking as if they aren't sure what game they are playing. Orien Greene looks good on defense but my 1 year old son can guard him as he can't even hit the backboard with the ball.

Douby can shoot he can run he can play defense he can get in the lane and finish. Now that make you ask yourself WHY? is he not playing better. Because he has no idea what is going on outside of himself dribbling and shooting. The playbood might as well be wrote in a foreign language to him. I don't think he has the IQ to ever be a factor in the NBA other than a selfish 1 on 1 player thats not that good.
 
The way Reggie is looking I bet if Justin was available that he and Watkins would be in the game at the same time alot. Reggie hates the frontcourt you can tell by the way he subs.
 
WTH, Mikki Moore cashed in 17 mil US$ from your team last summer ?? Scola got paid for just 10 mil 3 yrs -while having to pay part of his buy out, Oberto was signed in 05 for just 5 mil 2 yrs -2nd yr player option, and Elson was signed for a mere 10 mil 3 yrs in 06 -3rd yr team option. Unbelievable robbery !! :confused:
 
WTH, Mikki Moore cashed in 17 mil US$ from your team last summer ?? Scola got paid for just 10 mil 3 yrs -while having to pay part of his buy out, Oberto was signed in 05 for just 5 mil 2 yrs -2nd yr player option, and Elson was signed for a mere 10 mil 3 yrs in 06 -3rd yr team option. Unbelievable robbery !! :confused:

Undoubtably! Sad too!!!
 
The way Reggie is looking I bet if Justin was available that he and Watkins would be in the game at the same time alot. Reggie hates the frontcourt you can tell by the way he subs.

I'd imagine he does feel that way, since everyone else seems to. I don't expect either of those guys to play consistently well, but inconsistently well seems to be the best we have. And Brad's consistent mediocrity gives us 3 bigs. That will do.
 
Can someone please tell me what the +/- stat means?


When a guy is on the court vs. when he is off it. Always a little shaky because it matters who you are on the court with, who you are replacing etc. (i.e. if you replace somebody really good your +/- might look poor even if you are a good player just because he is better). But interesting.
 
Can someone please tell me what the +/- stat means?

+/- is the score differential when the player is in the game. So e.g. if the team scored 50 points when KMart was playing and 80 points were scored on the team when KMart was playing, his +/- would be -30.

At least that's my understanding of it from NHL. I assume it's the same in the NBA.
 
Can someone please tell me what the +/- stat means?

Brick - IMHO, Aliens was a better movie than Alien. Yes, it had a great "feel", but seriously, it was not nearly as enjoyable as Aliens. Although Aliens was definitely more of an action flick - aiming for a different audience. Horror flicks are not my thing, I find them generally quite silly (let's split up and get killed one at a time! :rolleyes: ).

And I was laugning at the Psycho bit - pure comedy. :D
 
Reggie ( D+ ) -- two games in and Reggie is already losing his mind.

I'm wondering if the worst personnel move of the last few years has been to let Rick walk. While the team had started deteriorating even on his watch, individual performance of many of our players was fairly decent. Many of our major guys (Brad, Bibby, Reef, even KT) saw a sudden and sharp drop in performance last year, making their contracts virtually untradable. I dare say that after the first round loss to Spurs, many of our players might have had decent trade value, and if Rick had stuck around, maybe, just maybe, theirs, and the team performance might have been better for our guys to have some value.

I hope Reggie can reverse it to some extent. Right now, our front line looks worse than even our worst fears.
 
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