[Grades] Grades v. Pistons 1/15/11

The biggest reason we blew this game today because:

  • Our starting vets (Cisco + Beno) gave us nothing

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Our Jeter/Landry/Casspi bench crew got annihilated on defense

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Foul trouble for the centers

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Reke and JT falloff after half

    Votes: 5 10.2%
  • Missed FTs

    Votes: 11 22.4%
  • Cisco and Casspi killed by Prince, refused to try Donte on him

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Detroit starting to double and trap Reke and Beno up top

    Votes: 2 4.1%
  • 4th game in 5 nights + ran out of legs

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • More spiked punch at halftime

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Gremlins

    Votes: 6 12.2%

  • Total voters
    49

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1
Pts by quarter
1st: 36
2nd: 34
3rd: 10 ?!?

Not sure I have ever seen that before.

In the spirit of down and out soidarity, the theme tongiht will be The Ten Poorest Nations in the World. Might also put our own economic wows in perspective.

Official Boxscore


Garcia ( D- ) -- Cisco, who is at best a SG/SF swingman, and built much more like a guard, has been exposed a bit on this trip as teams with real SFs have begun to take advantage of him. Tonight it was Tayshaun Prince, who has hurt us in the past, and was just far too big/saavy for either Cisco or Casspi. So in order to justify his minutes Cisco would have needed to score on the offensive end, but that didn't happen either. Was really the forgotten man in the early going while Reke and JT were leading the huge early charge, but even when he was called upon, not much was happening. A night after starting to runaway from 3pt shots, today he only took 1 and still only shot 2-10 from the field. Started the third blowing a layup off a beautiful Cousins feed. Lone bright spot on the night came when he hit a big three at the 8:30 mark of the 4th to cut the lead back to 3. Played 33 minutes...why only Westphal knows as he's swapped his mad scientist cap for his stubborn toddler cap on ths issue. 6pts 4rebs on 2-10 shooting while getting lit up on defense with two young SFs behind you on the bench logically should not result in those kinds of minutes. Was our only player whon shot poorly on the night, we had 27 assists, only 1 of which was his.

#10 Afghanistan ($800 GDP per capita) -- it probably comes as no particular shock that Afghanistan should be on this list after decades of civil war and insurgency. It also of course makes the problem of how to convince average Afghanis, who live on $2 a day, to not get involved in the heroin trade (they are the world's largest exporter, and it pays for much of the Taliban) that much more problematic. Fun fact: only 3 in 10 Afghani policemen (and they are all men of course) can even read.

Thompson ( B+ ) -- got off to a huge start to this one as the primary beneficiary of and finisher for the great passing in the early going. Had a few little thigns of his own -- his first score was a nice post move along the baseline, he had some hustle o-rebs and finishes. But most of what he was doing was simply movign towards the hoop, keeping his hands up, and taking pass after pass for easy finishes inside. off to a big start nice move inside early, and a hustle offensive board and finsih. Got a big alley oop on the break from Reke and was playing with so much confidence that he hit his first 8 shots of the game. Defense was not as good as the offense unfortunately. Remained active in the early third even as we slowed down, got a finish from Beno, an o-reb and foul, but missed the FTs on a ngiht when he, and we, utterly sucked from the line. And then that was just it. That abruptly. It all stopped. The Pistons were obviously not interested in having him do that nay longer and no doubt made adjustments, but it also just felt like we had an entirely different tone to our offense after half and just compeltely forgot about Jason. The Pistons helped matters along by smallballing, especially after they lost Wilcox, and the upshot was that Jason had 20pts at half, and a grand total of 2 after half, and wasn't even three down the stretch as we tried to hold on and win it. That's a hard thing to grade.

#9 Central African Reublic ($754 GDP per capita) -- the incredibly generic name probably doesn't help inspire investment in this landlocked African cournty. Liek a number of the poorer countries in the world it actually produces enough food to feed its populace, but since that populace is incredibly poor and can't pay anything, most of that food gets exported and the people back home starve.

Cousins ( C+ ) -- strong early play that was sabotaged again by foul trouble that severely limited his mintues until he could lead us on a little late (very late) last gasp charge. Nice play, yes I said play, as we had both Beno and Evans flash throuh the paint and Cousins hit Reke beautifully for the first score of the game. Was in attack mode early, and his passing as well as physical play was helping to grease the early explosion. Fouls soon caught up to him however, and if he does not accelerate the elarnign curve there he's going to join JT in having the dubious honor of being the biggest hack in a 400 player league as a rookie. Halftimes are often deadly for us, and they were again as I don't know what hapened. Kids feeling fat and sassy after the first half? Westphal passing around a bong at halftime? I don't know, but whatever it was, Cousins exemplified it, just coming out of halftime flat as can be, missing a jumper and getting beat twice by Monroe to start the half before picking up his 4th foul on acharging call, and having to sit until the 4th quarter. Stated the 4th helping by hitting Casspi on a cut for a layup after our amazingly bad third. But got stripped for a turnover on his next post move, lost his cool and got a technicalm leading Westphal to immediately pull him. That was ok, at least in theory. But wiht us dying out there offensively again Westphal kept on sitting on him and sitting on him and sitting on him, until finally reinserting him in desperation time with the Pistosn threatening to put us down 10 and finsih it.Cousins performed pretty well after the late return, banging inside and getting o the line repeatedly, and even knocking down most of the FTs. But it was too little too late.

#8 Sierra Leone ($747 GDP per capita) -- ever see the movie Blood Diamond? It was based on the diamond trade in this country.

Udrih ( C ) -- one of the disadvantages of having a pod person take Beno's place for this last week is that you always knew that sooner or later the gig was going to be up and the pod person was going to abruptly disappear. The timing sucked however. Was quiet from the very start in this one, and while early you thought maybe it was just the quietness that comes from being not terribly needed while Reke played the full blown superstar, you eventually began to realize that this was more than him consciously stepping back, and he wasn't going to ignite after we slowed down. If he hand maybe we win this, but he never did make a push of any kind really. Hit a three on a Reke kick in the first, but when Reke had to leave with the cut mouth, we needed him to step up and there was just nothing there. By way of waking up in the thid made a great move to free himself...and then barely drew iron. Did eventually open one eye at least, hitting Jason with a nice pass, playing a little D, and getting one of his spin drives to fall. But the Pistons were doubling and trapping Reke up top shifted some of that same attention to Beno, and he turned it over triggering a Poistons break. Continued just being there into the 4th, missing a long three and struggling to contain Gordonm but coming up with a single hit late in the quarter. I C'd this, could have C-'d it I thought, but I don't think there was a single quarter where he was really much aboe those sorts of levels. Might have been most important just in not being Pooh Jeter, who apparently stole Will Bynum's Mini-Me suit before the game or something, because Bynum looked like he was determined to drive him right out of the game.

#7 Eritrea ($739 GDP per capita) -- this former chunk of Ethiopia is if nothing else a great place to get married, becuase then they'll come and do the doofy traditional marriage dance pictured to celebrate.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Evans ( A- ) -- got off to the completely dominant start to this one, playng one of his finest halves of basetball in the first half her, and it was doing it at both ends and in all ways. Caught the Pistons napping and snuck in to steal an inbounds pass and lay it in, made a great pass ahead for the alley oop. Played a really amazing first quarter with 10pts 5ast 3stls, slashed to the hoop, and closed the quarter with a gorgeous spin drive and dump to Dalembert for the dunk. Canned a three in the second as well, got a pass deflected, got it back, and found JT for the dunk. Just never looked rush and looked liek he was in complete control of the game. Such good stuff you didn't want his first rest to come. Looked like he was going to play the whole first half, then took a shot to the mouth and when he would finally rest was decided for usm as he went ot the sideline. Came back in with the injury with 3 min left in the half and greeted the Pistons with a great weaving layup. Was doing a considerably better job on Bynum than Pooh was able to as well as he was able to negate the burly little guy's power advantage, and was in on all the hustle plays. Then halftime came around, and damn that stupid tradition. Was a different energy to start the third, and Reke made a couple of lazy defensive plays followed by missing inside and out. On one play missing two point blank layups after he got the o-reb. Was facing many doubles and traps after half as well that kep him form any sort of rhythm. Of course that should mean the other guys get to play 4 on 3 and should score, but you saw how that worked out. Took too long on the final play of the third, and hit Jeter with the pass after the buzzer. Play int he 4th was better and did a few things, but still nowhere near what we saw before haldf. He hit a big open feet set three at the 7:00 mark to cut the lead to 1, and got some assists down the stretch, but his layups were just rolling off time and again. Had to think about what to do with this grade after the big falloff, but the numbers were still huge, and the first half was downright spectacular, and so did not thnk the secodn half here was so bad as to totally leave the realm of the As.

#6 Niger (GDP $736 per capita) -- Niger is a country just because we decided somewhere back there that every spot of land has to belong to somebody. But 80% of its land is the Sahara Desert, it has no paves roads outside of city limits, and only 1 person in 4 has ever attended school of any sort.


Bench

Dalembert ( B- ) -- in and immediately got a defensive stop. Recipeint of a great Reke pass for a dunk to close the first quarter scoring. But began to pick up fouls, and along wiht Cousins doing hte same those would eventually deprive us of our size advantage. Was back in the third and used his length to pick us up with offensive boards and finsihes. Was really no more than solid out there though, and never did get the shotblocking game going as there was noone to really challenge him man to man, and the Pistons slashers -- Bynum and Stuckey primarily -- were coming off those corners so hard and so fast that the only decision to be made was whether to foul them or let them have the layup.

#5 Somalia (GDP $600 per capita) -- of course a country in name only anymore, and 5/6th of that GDP figure probably comes from piracy at this stage. That thing in the picture BTW, is a house.

Jeter ( C- ) -- hit a few jumpers early, and was doing a decent job of jelping ball movement, but the absolute story of this one was Pooh becoming the latest King to get absolutely pwned on the other end fo th court, as Will Bynum -- just as quick and twice as strong -- used that superior strength to full avantage and just blew right through Pooh time and time again and slashed into our paint to break down the defense. Bynum's an aggressive little dude anyway, but he absolutely loved that matchup and it was bad enough that it made Pooh virtualy unplayable in this one, and significantly limted his minutes while depriving us of a backup PG. I am giving him some grade here for the decent offense, but that meant little.

#4 Burundi (GDP $401 per capita) -- another one of those "countries" that were really made so just because of European notions, although there had been an ancient kingdom of the same name, but that is actually composed of several tribes still operating with a stoneage tribal mentality (basically the same mix that has caused the slaughter in Uganda). Result = endless civil war and killing of the "others" that are supposedly your countrymates. What little economy there is is based on coffee growing.

Casspi ( C- ) -- another down game for Omri. Started off nicely with a great block from behind on Wilcox to save a hoop and start a break, but it was that side of the bal that would be the biggest problem again, as Tayshaun Prince has owned him in his young career, and took up the deed again tonight. Prince barely looks human, more like a skelton with skin stretched over it, and yet the little bit of extra height/length along with a boatload of saavy means that hewas able to take Omri into thye post and score over him with ease time and again. When things started to breakdown in the late first half, Omri as he sometimes will panicked and resorted again to a 1 on 1 move that bricked and was a sign we had stopped humming. The Prince problems became acute thoguh, and we were having to run doubles over to help and it was breaking down the defnse elsewhere. Back in the game late as a PF, and got beat by Charlie V. Not a horrible idea/matchup, given Villanueva's soft little combo forward game, but not Omri's night on defense. Picked a godo tiem to do something as he finally got a three to fall at the 1:00 mark to cut it to 4 and give us one last chance, but another one of those too little too late things for us.

#3 Liberia (GDP $379 per capita) -- a country ironically founded by escaped American slaves looking for a better life, and now just about the most miserable place in the entire world in which to live. Unemplyment stands at 85%. Life expectancy is 44 years. Those are bullet holes in the picture by the way.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#3
Landry ( C+ ) -- had his first half minutes severely curtailed by the strength of JT's start to this one. Got many more minutes after half, but it was questionable whether he helped with his offense or hurt by getting beat more often. Finally in off the bench in the mid 2nd, and it was a mixed bag. He immediately hit his first shot, and later broke a Pistons run with a strong +1. But it was all 1 on 1 stuff, and there were forces and turnovers mixed in. Recipeient of a great sequence from Reke to JT on the high pick and roll to Landry on the baseline for the finish. Was back in the late third with the offense dead, and helped it stay that way. Drew a foul...and missed both FTs. Showed some bad hands for a turnover. Took a hard hard foul from Wilcox at the 8:00 mark of the 4th and again only split the pair. Got beat by Villanueva in isolation out of the timeout at the 6:00 mark, and down the strethc we actually decided to counter his long jumpshot game with Casspi rather than either PF.

#2 Zaire/Democratic Republic of the Congo (GDP $334 per capita) -- changing its name has not changed its fate. that of an eteranl war involving virtually all oif its neighbors and resulting in the killing of 5 and a half million people since 1997. The famine has reached a stage where its one of the last nations with reported cases of cannibal tribes. And in something I learned about South Africa last week its an injuman place to be a woman, with the most rapes per woman in the world, and believing in a southern Africa wide myth that if you sleep with a virgin girl it will cure you of your AIDS -- thus girls as young as 6 or 7 will be raped and likely given HIV in the process.

Greene ( F ) -- proved by not getting inserted in this one that he is fat, undedicated and smiles too much. After all, anybody so bad that he can't even earn a single minute while onthe 4th game in 5 nights Cisco/Casspi can shoot 5-18 while getting pantsed by a walking skeleton must suck, and Father Westphal does know best.

#1 Zimbabwe (GDP $0.1 per capita) -- that per capita number is being generous, as essentially there no longer is an economy in Zimbabwe, who's rulers are completely bat**** insane. Last year hyeprinflation reached 87.9 sextillion percent. Prices doubled every 1.1 days. An apple costing $1 on Monday, would cost $64 billion by the end of the month. The government started printing $100 billion dollar bills that were almsot worthless and eventually two times during the year decided to simply take 10 zeroes off each bank note because they weren't fitting anymore. The latest bill printed is a 100 trillion dollar bill. Meanwhile life expectancy is 37 for men, 34 for women, and 20% of the population has HIV. How do you even start fixing such a mess? BTW all those bills the kid is holding? Comes out to a total of 3 U.S. dollars.
 
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#5
Thats a gigantic drop-off of points from the second to the third quarter: 24? All those missed FTs didn't help, either. Yet another game on this road trip that the Kings could have had. :mad:
 

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#6
All of the above? Especially Gremlins. If by Gremlins, you mean Westphal. Once, I thought he was a lovable Mogwai. Silly me.
 
#7
WTF!! No choise for westfail on the pole!? He is the cause for all of our loses, it dosn't mater if we missed 50% of our free throws or culdnt make an open shot in the second have!!?!?!?!?!!!111111 SMFH!!!11
 
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#9
Refs obviously were on a agenda the 3rd quarter as they blew all calls towards the kings. It was so obvious they were trying to bring back the pistons. The calls got the kings out of sync and bam they came back. Watch the 3rd quarter again. Good job refs.
 
#10
Refs obviously were on a agenda the 3rd quarter as they blew all calls towards the kings. It was so obvious they were trying to bring back the pistons. The calls got the kings out of sync and bam they came back. Watch the 3rd quarter again. Good job refs.
Oh hey it really is Demarcus Cousins.
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#11
you have to at least include all of the above in your polls lol. demarcus and his facial tantrums stress me out more than watching the kings blow an amazing first half.
 
#12
Whenever I saw Prince posting up Garcia or Casspi, I got angry. Whenever the Kings missed a freethrow, I got angry. Whenever all members of the Pistons turned into Edward Scissorhands under their own basket, I got angry. When the Kings completely turned away from JT in the second half, I got angry. I was very angry last night. Only redeeming factor: I'm not a Cavs fan.
 
#13
Whenever I saw Prince posting up Garcia or Casspi, I got angry. Whenever the Kings missed a freethrow, I got angry. Whenever all members of the Pistons turned into Edward Scissorhands under their own basket, I got angry. When the Kings completely turned away from JT in the second half, I got angry. I was very angry last night. Only redeeming factor: I'm not a Cavs fan.
I guess that's one thing to be thankful for...we're not the Cavs! ;)
 
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#9 Central African Reublic ($754 GDP per capita) -- the incredibly generic name probably doesn't help inspire investment in this landlocked African cournty. Liek a number of the poorer countries in the world it actually produces enough food to feed its populace, but since that populace is incredibly poor and can't pay anything, most of that food gets exported and the people back home starve.[/color]
Starve or eat the trash products of the food produced in the EU, which are exported to these African countries, since the people there are the only ones willing/forced to eat it. All of this of course only being possible due to the subsidies the EU pays to its farmers. One of the more messed up cycles this world has to offer.
 
#15
Back to the Kings' loss last night ...... concerning the drop off in points in the third quarter ..... even though Evans said he got back his wind last night, he didn't look like it several times in the late second quarter. How much of our second half drop off to date in the season is due to Evans being pooped, particularly if, like last night, he has just put on a fabulous exhibition of scoring and general activity. He really does huff and heave to get a breathe. Is there anything to this thought?
 
#16
Starve or eat the trash products of the food produced in the EU, which are exported to these African countries, since the people there are the only ones willing/forced to eat it.
Did you know that climate change has given many Scottish sheep a lung disease, causing the Scots to have to import sheep lungs from Ireland in order to make their haggis?

British cooking. I'm just sayin'.
 
#17
I voted tired legs. That 3rd Qtr they came out as flat as a pancake. They got out hustled and out ran. I am hoping they get some rest and come back and keep playing hard. Those calls wont continue to go against Cousins forever. Cousins needs to learn that the calls will come this year no matter what he says or does. It is part of the Ref bias cycle. Even as a 7 year vet, he will get lame calls against teams with allstars at the center position. It is just the way of the NBA. If you don't like it, tough! David Stern doesn't care! The game turns out as he tells the refs, not as the game is played.
 
#18
I voted D. Everything else contributed, but even at the half when we had given up 60 points on 60% shooting I was concerned that if our offense came back down to earth we were in trouble. Now it did that with a giant thud, but that's going to happen from time to time. In the NBA, you win with defense and our lack of it came back to haunt us.
 

origkds

What- Me Worry?
#19
I couldn't vote in the poll because the most obvious answer to me seemed to be missing- we lost this game due to no defensive effort. We allowed the Pistons to score 59 points in the first half but it didn't matter because we shot 70%. I'm pretty sure that Kuester told his players that allowing the Sacramento Kings to score 70 pts is not acceptable and I expect you to tighten up your defense in the second half. Well they did and we fell apart. I'm not sure what happened to the team that held the Knicks to 93 points the night before, but they sure did not show up last night. You can put a check mark next to each one of those poll questions but if we hold the Pistons to 93 we win by 13.
 
#22
Does anyone else feel that Jeter is a defensive liability? His lack of size could be covered if we had good team and interior defense, but with our team 90% of the time once the perimeter guy gets past his defender we're screwed. Be it a pick and roll, or open penetration etc. Of course once in a while we have Cousins drawing a charge of Samuel Dalembert blocking a shot but other than that almost every team has had their way against Jeter.

Offensively I don't think that he brings a lot to the table either. He's good at pushing the ball, but in all honesty doesn't really create much for others except on the break. Not a very reliable outside shooter either. Yet he continues to be the first guard off the bench (not that we really have much of a choice, it's him or Luther Head...)
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#24
Does anyone else feel that Jeter is a defensive liability? His lack of size could be covered if we had good team and interior defense, but with our team 90% of the time once the perimeter guy gets past his defender we're screwed. Be it a pick and roll, or open penetration etc. Of course once in a while we have Cousins drawing a charge of Samuel Dalembert blocking a shot but other than that almost every team has had their way against Jeter.

Offensively I don't think that he brings a lot to the table either. He's good at pushing the ball, but in all honesty doesn't really create much for others except on the break. Not a very reliable outside shooter either. Yet he continues to be the first guard off the bench (not that we really have much of a choice, it's him or Luther Head...)
He is a defensive liability, but so is Beno. I think you can have one on the floor at a time, and play good enough team defense to cover. But when both Beno and Pooh are on the floor, we get burned frequently, and just like against Det it becomes pretty tough for our bigs to stay out of foul trouble. But Westy seems to have taken a liking to playing Pooh, Beno, and Cisco at the same, and all three are a liability on the defensive end, and puts far too much pressure on our bigs. Not a recipe for success.

Pooh means so much to our offense however that he needs to play, and we need him. I do think we could play Pooh and Beno together and be more successful when it comes to defense, if Donte were in the rotation.