[Grades] Grades v. Nuggets 2/23/2016

Kings Player of the game?

  • Ben

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Curry

    Votes: 4 6.9%
  • Chad Iske

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mudiay

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Chalmers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • the Nuggets mascot

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • woman in the 7th row who picked her nose during that one timeout

    Votes: 5 8.6%
  • Tayyip Erdogan

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Boogie?

    Votes: 43 74.1%

  • Total voters
    58
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1




Boxscore

Stats: 36min 16pts (6-11, 1-1, 3-4) 10reb 4ast 4stl 3blk 2TO
Summary:what offense we got out of him was often forced tunnel vision isos, but legit work on the glass and effort (with mistakes) on D

Gay ( ) --

Stats: 13min 0pts (0-2, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 0ast 0stl 3blk 0TO
Summary:limited productivity as usual, but came up with 3 huge inspiring blocks to goose our energy

Acy ( B ) -- part of this grade is that I really don't expect much out of Quincy as a starter. But part of it too is that the one thing he did do -- come up with those three huge blocks -- is kind of exactly why he is there in the first place. He's small and weak for the position. He is not terribly skilled. But he has passion and he can get off the ground, and so while Faried generally owned the matchup, 3 times, twice in the first half and once in the 3rd, Acy came up with BIG blocks to help energize the team. Wasn't doing enough else to justify more minutes, but basically did his job as a boost of energy to keep us from sluggish starts.

Stats: 36min 39pts (14-24, 2-2, 9-12) 9reb 2ast 1stl 2blk 3TO
Summary:really wanted this one, spectacular takes throughout, one rough patch int eh 4th, then carried us home on both sides of ball

Cousins ( A ) -- well I'm sure there was something to complain about here because its what we do -- hey, he did not break double figures in boards, the wretch! -- but he beat the hell out of every Nugget they threw in front of him again. He had a number of truly spectacular drives and posts in this one, and in the early going was incredibly efficient as everything fell. Then he came out in the third and blitzed the Nuggets with threes and jumpers, and if we weren't the Kings, the commanding lead we built should have been enough to carry us on home. But no, not our franchise. By the time Cuz returned in the 4th the lead was almost gone, and for the first few minutes of his stint he started missing bunnies too. But in the final minutes not only did he carry us offensively, but he made two huge defensive plays in the final minute, first up top straight picking a PG (DJ Augustin) ala Tyreke and rumbling the other way, getting to the line, and hitting both FTs. Then after a play when he may have made a defensive mistake (of sorts, Denver's center Jokic hit a three to cut the lead to 1, and somehow Collison ended up setting a moving screen on Boogie keeping him from even challenging), he came back on the final defensive play of the game and again stole the ball (potentially a foul) when they tried to pass it to Darrel Arthur under the hoop. He wanted the win badly. As usual we needed everything he could give to make it happen.

Stats: 13min 7pts (3-4, 1-2, 0-0) 1reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
Summary:started the game with one notably active and obvious defensive possession up top vs. Mudiay, hit a few useful shots in early 3rd

McLemore ( C+ ) -- on the very first play of the game Ben came out and defended the hell out of Mudiay up top like he was trying to prove a point. That did not last however, and soon his first stint devolved into sloppiness as he forced things his talent would not allow and repeatedly turned it over. He still got the 3rd quarter start, and actually hit a couple of good shots for us in his second stint, but never returned. My best explanation for why is that the Nuggets were running almost a 2-PG set with Augustin and Barton, and Ben, who had been checking Mudiay, was maybe not seen as a good defensive match for either.

Stats: 31min 4pts (2-6, 0-1, 0-0) 5reb 12ast 1stl 1blk 4TO
Summary: not terribly effective on the night on either end, and some shaky shoot/pass decisionmaking

Rondo ( C ) -- accumulated assists as the game went on, but you barely noticed he was out there half the time, and when you did it was when he made a too risky pass or a dubious attempt at a flip finish inside rather than kicking it out. Got beat repeatedly by Augustin too in the late going when things got tight. After a near 24pt triple double vs. the same team 4 nights before, who knows? Just shy of actively hurting us, but we got no push from any of our guards.


Bench

Stats: 23min 10pts (4-7, 0-0, 2-2) 5reb 1ast 1stl 2blk 0TO
Cauley-Stein ( ) --

Stats: 32min 9pts (3-7, 0-2, 3-4) 4reb 5ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Collison ( ) --

Stats: 23min 14pts (4-6, 2-4, 4-6) 9reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Casspi ( B- ) -- despite the good numbers I was never fully convinced he was really helping us out there. Seeemed sluggish and got beat repeatedly on D. On the other hand in his first half stint he finally got the shooting stroke going agains knocked down several threes and had a big +/-. That faded after half though, and a key to pulling this one out may have been when Karl finally decided to reinsert Willie in the 4th to restore our defense.

Stats: 12min 6pts (3-4, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Koufos ( B ) -- actually gave us a solid game in limited minutes behind Cuz. Was efficient with his little hook, and did not have the defensive issues he did last time out. We needed Cuz, always need Cuz, but Kosta tried to buy us time.

Stats: 20min 9pts (4-12, 1-3, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Belinelli ( ) --

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#10
Makes me so irked this team tanked that 10 game stretch. We truly are capable of being a playoff team when playing with effort. Not perfect obviously, but at least competitive in every game out there.
We should be 27-28 right now if we would have given the minimalist of effort in the last 10 debacle.
 
#12
Makes me so irked this team tanked that 10 game stretch. We truly are capable of being a playoff team when playing with effort. Not perfect obviously, but at least competitive in every game out there.
The thing is Boogie going for 40 is NOT a consistent winning formula....it just can't be.

We have to be able to win when he get "only" 25 points. And when we go up against the better front court defense Boogie has to be a willing passer to avoid the 5-20 FG games. When our 5 game streak ended it was when Boogie got (understandably) fatigued but also when into force mode.

And we need other guys to step up namely Ben and/or Marco. Ben actually made two BIG perimeter jump shots in second half to sort of slow the momentum. I think Boogie can keep up a torrid pace like this for one week but you cannot expect it over 25 games.

Ben (Marco) needs to scoring 15 PPG some nights so Boogie only has to score 25 PPG not 35 PPG for us to win.

What we really need is to sweep this 3 game home stand and run our streak to 6 games. Then we are back within striking distance. But the team needs to find a balance to their effort because if Boogie needs to be HOF/MVP every game its not sustainable.

The defense needs to coalesce with more minutes for Willie in crunch time, Rondo needs to be more careful with his full court passes, and Rudy needs to play his best ball on both ends.

These are a lot of conditions to make a legitimate playoff run. This is the 8-ball the team put themselves behind by giving away so many games. And this is also the onus on the players with aloof and lackadasical coach who is a neutral (negative) in-game coach.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#13
Only saw the last quarter or so of the game. Why did Ben only have 12 minutes? Turnovers?
The more legit answer is matchups.

The Nuggets run out a lot of ballhandling semi-PGs, and the only one we trusted Ben on was Mudiay. Marco played less than 20 min himself. The real change was Karl going with and sticking with Rondo & Collison for big minutes to try to match Augustin and Barton quicknesswise. Neith4er of our guys, in fact none of our guards, were very good, but pretty sure it was matchup oriented.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#17
Remember when Karl would not play two Bigs? Now Acy is starting and Willie is finishing.Boogie plays every minute he can and Koufos comes in when Boogie needs a rest or has foul trouble. I liked the Big rotation tonight.
There was some extensive twin smallballing SFs in the 4th coinciding nicely with Denver's surge to catch back up. What changed was that Karl actually put the rookie back in and let us play it on out full sized. Hallef******lujah.
 
#18
This game was different from the previous win. This felt more like the 5 game win streak where Cousins playing out of his mind got the team victories. Curious what we'll see agains San Antonio.

Kings D got bailed out by Mudiay's terrible shooting.

I guess I should say something about Cousins, but I've gotten used to him playing at this level.
 

Larry89

Disgruntled Kings Fan
#20
Marco absolutely lazy and poor defense leading to Will Barton lighting up the third, someone who was originally 3/11 up to that point. Offense needs to post up Gay more when Cousins is out. Offense looks quite lost when Collison can't score AND Rondo/Cousins is out.
 
#21
While I agree with the general premise of your post, I jsut had to mention sweeping this 3 game homestand:

SAN 47-9
LAC 37-19
OKC 40-16

might be just a TEENSY bit ambitious...for Golden State. :p
I know its not going be easy but Kawhi could be out tomorrow. Blake is out on Friday and we play OKC well. And we are the team with the sense of urgency or we should be. The coaching staff should conveying these are must-win games trailing #6 #7 and #8 seeds by 5 games. Their season is on the line now!!!

I said tonight was must-win "playoff" game and feel the same way about this home stand. Thunder Spurs and Clippers are kind of nestled in their spots with breathing room. They are not going to rollover but they don't have the urgency to win like Kings. The team lost game they "should" have won and now they need to win games they "should" lose. Its time to stake a claim as to who this team wants to be. Now or never on the season and for Boogie to make games count for first time in his career.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#23
Marco with 9 points, a bunch of missed shots, and literally nothing else.

How do you play twenty minutes and not accidentally grab a rebound or two or at least pass the ball to an open guy, hell, throw the ball out of bounds.
 
K

KingMilz

Guest
#24
Mike Malone must think he's still coaching the Kings cause he really liked that Faried/Cousins match up the last two games as did all Kings fans.

Monster game by Cuz, WCS showing a left hand in both halfs also when was the last time all 4 of our big men got a blocked shot in a game? Cause it happened tonight even Rudy had 3. Can't stress how horrible Rondo/Marco and Ben are on D.
 
#25
If Karl keeps playing Marco when he's killing the Kings, they WILL lose quite a few games thru the end of the season.

Has anyone noticed that Karl keeps taking WCS out of the game when the Kings are in the lead, and therefore need DEFENSE to win the game?
It boggles my mind, how he apparently doesn;t know this basic of concept in basketball.

He yanked Willie when they were up 9 points, the team floundered, giving up tons of easy shots and almost the entire lead. Then, when the Nuggets had caught up, he re-inserted Willie (presumably when we would need offense!)
And oddly, Willie responded with offense, making a yet-unseen beautiful left-handed hook shot (is he ambidexterous?) and the whole team's offense was more natural and easy with Willie in.

Tl;dr the team defense AND offense is better with Willie - how can Karl keep taking him out and losing leads?
 
#27
Ben being over aggressive and turning the ball over and over in the first 5 minutes is precisely why they were down and why he didn't log many minutes.
 
#29
If Karl keeps playing Marco when he's killing the Kings, they WILL lose quite a few games thru the end of the season.

Has anyone noticed that Karl keeps taking WCS out of the game when the Kings are in the lead, and therefore need DEFENSE to win the game?
It boggles my mind, how he apparently doesn;t know this basic of concept in basketball.

He yanked Willie when they were up 9 points, the team floundered, giving up tons of easy shots and almost the entire lead. Then, when the Nuggets had caught up, he re-inserted Willie (presumably when we would need offense!)
And oddly, Willie responded with offense, making a yet-unseen beautiful left-handed hook shot (is he ambidexterous?) and the whole team's offense was more natural and easy with Willie in.

Tl;dr the team defense AND offense is better with Willie - how can Karl keep taking him out and losing leads?
how many games left in the season b4 we can his ass? don't need him
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#30
Ben being over aggressive and turning the ball over and over in the first 5 minutes is precisely why they were down and why he didn't log many minutes.
Over and over? He had 3 TOs and one of them was a tough offensive foul call on a fast break that could have gone either way. Also, at that point in the game with Rondo, Gay, and Cuz all throwing away ill advised long outlet passes in the first quarter, nothing Ben did stood out as particularly awful. Some of this comes from trying to push the pace on every possession instead of just walking the ball up and running the offense.