You're more than entitled to be the kind of fan you are, Cal-Kings. But message boards don't exist just to root on the team. The part and parcel of a message board is to debate the various points of discussion about the team. It would get very boring around here very quickly without points of debate and discussion.
What we think of the team is why we come to Kingsfans.com.
Let me clarify. I totally understand where you and kupman are coming from. The problem is that our team is nowhere near as good as they were in recent years. We've had to watch them decline, and it hasn't been any easier for me than it has for anyone else. The tougest part, however, is the mercurial attitudes some fans seem to have. They're way to excited over wins and they become downright suicidal over losses. That's why when someone (just talking in general terms here) is ridiculously giddy about one or two games, a lot of us who have been around here a LONG time will try and be a little more realistic.
One game doesn't make a championship team OR a lottery team. It's the whole season. Remember how the board looked a short while ago? Not winning had people ready to fire the coach, fire the players, etc.
You and kupman seem to think that by pointing out shortcomings it means we - or at least I - don't support and root for this team with every fibre of my being. That's simply not true. I do love this team. Have from the beginning. I will continue to love them regardless of their W-L record. I have, as I pointed out in another thread, however, lowered my expectations because I just don't believe they're capable of the same kind of performance night in and night out that some of our past teams have had.
This is the grade thread. Bricklayer grades the player performances and everyone chimes in... discussing/arguing (civilized of course) about whether some grades are too high, some are too low, etc. I don't think we're on opposite sides, bottom line. I think some may be misunderstanding the approach some of us long-timers have adopted over recent years to deal with disappointment after disappointment.
Wait... now I'm more confused.
I didn't even read Kupman so I have no idea why I'm being compared to him.
Besides, wasn't I chided in another thread for bashing the team too much?
Plus, I don't recall ever saying you don't support this team. I'd have absolutely no reason to say such nonsense. The fact that anyone is here writing (except for a troll) obviously means they are extremely interested in this team.
All I read was your post that I first responded and was confused why it mattered to anybody what another fan sees or doesn't see about the team.
I also don't understand why I'm lumped outside some "long timer" catagory when you have no idea how many years I've followed this team. Just because I'm relatively new to this forum doesn't mean I don't understand sports, or what it means to be a fan. However, I do understand and appreciate the explanation of the "grades" thread, although I think I already had a clear idea what it was about.
This comment though:
That's why when someone (just talking in general terms here) is ridiculously giddy about one or two games, a lot of us who have been around here a LONG time will try and be a little more realistic.
It's all good to be realistic from your perspective. I don't see why, if another fan is giddy about a win, that should bother anybody. Just as I don't see why, if a fan is always negative, that should bother anybody.
I guess I took your post as trying a little too hard to control the emotions of others to fit within your perspective of what is proper for a fan to feel. I apologize if this was not your intent.