Grades v. Jazz 11/12

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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well that was fun. Here are our two bits of evidence so far this season: good team on the road = we are a bug to their windshield. Awful team at home = narrow win. Tonight alas it was good team on the road time.

My planned theme for tonight broke down after I seem to have misplaced my starter notes on it, and attempts to flush it out/recreate it with google searches were going very slowly. However, watching us get pushed around inside all night like the scrawny little weaklings we are, I decided on an impromptu replacement theme: Guys We Could Use On Our Frontline

Salmons ( B+ ) -- by far our best player in the first quarter, and I think finished it 4 of 4. Struggled in the second though, and was perhaps pressing the issue. Came back out refocused in the third, and was pretty much our best player from there on out. Still shooting the ball very well from outside, which is opening up his game. Continues to not rebound, which is doom for a team in desperate need of it, but created several shots for teammates when he actually got his head up. Another 20+ pt game. Now Ron is back...what now brown cow?
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The Gubernator -- best thing about this guy? He's already in town. Just make the call Geoff.

Thomas ( D ) -- started slow, ended slow, but did show a little activity on the glass to help us stay close there in the second quarter. Also made some good passes in there. Unfortunately what he spent the most time at was getting absolutely mauled inside by Carlos Boozer. When your starting power forward goes 0pts 5rebs and theirs goes 32points 10rebs you should know there might be a slight problem. Yet the problem keeps on coming back, and this year's "solution" is going to be graded next...
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Magnus Samuelsson -- I was actually looking for a picture of 4x World's Strongest Man Magnus ver Magnusson, but could not find one, and so settled for another Magnus. Thsi one was only a 1x World's Strongest Man, but would still use Mikki as a freakin' toothpick. Let's sign him up.

Moore ( D ) -- with Brad's injury got to start one more day. Was pulled quickly in favor of Shareef, who was pulled back nearly as quickly. Mikki returned, and racked up 35 minutes of awesomeness. Was muscled out of the way by whichever member of the Jazz were lucky enough to run into him, and dropped balls, fumbled passes, had rebounds bounce off the hands...they should just get this guy another pair of sneakers for his hands as much use as they are. In the second quarter dropped a surefire layup pass from Kenny and then missed the buzzer beater to end the first half. Did surprise by converting on an actual post move (and drawing the +1), and in classic Mikki fashion, did enough to avoid the F. This time he occasionally grabbed some rebounds, as apparently any non-rebounding sofite who lines up at center for us is going to get some nowadays. Tonight it was 9 for Mikki (Like Brad, he was all alone on the glass too, with nobody else getting more than 5). Which is over twice his usual, although you scarcely notice him in there.
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Ed Coan -- the self described "greatest power lifter in the world. Looks like he might be a littel short to play inside, but then again, you notice the bar bending there across his back? And the six big guys standing around him to try to catch it if something goes wrong? That'll happen when you are lifting 1000lbs! Which means he might literally be strong enough to walk out of the arena carrying our entire starting lineup on his back. And maybe throw in a spare Douby or two just for the hell of it.

Martin ( B- ) -- very quietly led us in scoring in the first half. Was efficient, but obviously having little impact, and I was frankly a little surprised to see him finish half with 12 points. Was not consistently staying close to his man either. In the mid third provided us with the illusion of a comeback with back to back 3pt shots after the Jazz inserted Jason Hart to guard him, but I'm not sure if scored a point after that. Did little else than score either (2rebs 0ast), and looked a bit dispirited out there. Would have even said he might have been tired, except I can't think of any reason he would be unless he broke Theus's cufew last night for one of those wild and crazy Mormon parties. Shot efficiently, and was 4-6 from downtown, but unable to get the FT thing going, and that was the difference in his point total tonight. The Jazz of course are always going to play you very physical, and the refs weren't calling anything ticky tack. Did provide us with our only blocked shot of the night, as without Brad "the Hoppin' Hick" Miller in there, our intimidating interior presence was quite missing.
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Anthony Mason -- and here is one who even played basketball. Mason was big, strong, mean, nasty and did I mention mean? He would also come right in and be sure to continue our treasured tradition of grumpy old PFs.
 
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Cisco ( B ) -- short first stint, where at elast he wasn't getting outscored by his man. Began to get his own offense going a bit in the early 2nd, and was more comfortbale maybe while playing at OG (Beno was in). Mostly one on one though. Continued scoring well in the third, mostly just on pure effort and hustle, staying a half step ahead of Ak47. Went back and forth on this grade between B and B+, but given the results of this one and the feeling that Salmons was a tad better and more involved wiht the team, while Cisco was kind of playing by himself, I went with the slightly lower mark.
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Emmnauel "Tiny" Yarbrough -- while I hesitated before having my second sumo wrestler on one of these themes in this young season, "Tiny's" size along merits placement on this listl At 6'8" 770lbs he's taller than Kenny, and I'd nthink to see Boozer muscle this dude out. Only problem I can see is where are you going to get a jersey that size? Anybody have an old Oliver Miller 00 sitting aorund?

Reef ( D ) -- well, complain, get a little lucky with another guy getting injured, and blam, you're back in the rotation for a night. Or a half. Make that a quarter. Pretty much basically until coach gets a look at you and remembers why you were out of the rotation in the first place. Made a few solid passes, and still looked solidly rooted to the floor as he could get nothing going offensively. Ended up losing his second half minutes to a runt, a stone-handed stickman, and a 19yr old rookie. My original theme tonight was in honor of Reef's situation now, but it will have to wait until another day.
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Mike Tyson -- ok, this guy is definitely short for the job. But who the hell could see that face and still want to come into the lane? Besides his height could work to our advantage -- this is a man famous for biting off his opponent's ears. Well Mike could not reach a seven footer's ears but he could reach their...

Beno ( D+ ) -- Beno bueno became Beno bad in 48 hours, and maybe we were a tad too excited abou hsi frist game. Unfortunately the flip side of Beno was on display tongiht against a vastly superior opponent, and he struggled mightily. May have been a little better than the 0-5 0asts 0ast 2TO the boxscore showed at half, just because he was still trying to act like a PG and run our offense. But not much better. And in the second half really largely quit even impersonating a PG and started playing as our 8th or 9th shooting guard. Our swingmen play like shooting guards, our bigs play like shooting guards, and so do our points. That ain't good. When he did try to pass, was just off and made turnovers. He was twice called for walking. Just fugly. Did play some solid defense on Williams, although Deron was really just having an off night more than anything we did to him.
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Hulk Hogan -- that's right baby! Once the Hulkster gets those 24 inch pythons wrapped around the ball, it ain't going nowhere.

Hawes ( B ) -- started off slowly, making a solid pass, but then a near TO and throwing up something that looked disturbingly like a three pointer. If ever there was a time for Reggie to pull one of his go to your room little snap substitutions, that was it. But Hawes then settled down and during the latter half of the quarter started showing some of his impressive offensive skills, hitting a tough turnaround, a jumper, looking comfortable. Note I said offensive skills. It came with 1reb and no defensive effect. We tried a few times to get a little two man game going with Hawes and kevin, but never really materialized, and I'm not sure Kevin would know what to do with a real big man anyway -- not sure he's ever played with one (well besides about 3 months with Webb when he was getting no minutes). Blew a wide open layup to finish the 3rd quarter (dunk it!!!), but got it back and converted. Outmuscled on the glass by...everyone really. Boozer, Milsap in particular. Gets the grade for showing his offensive potential, which is a damn sight more than any other big on our roster is doing.
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Sun Ming -- 7'9" 385lbs. All you need to know. Sure, he cannot move. Irrelevant. Kenny can move. Mikki can move. Movement appears to be highly overrated. Thought just this picture of what the ball looks like in his hands would say everything that needed to be said.
 
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Douby ( C ) -- in the first half came in, hit a three, left. Got back in in the 4th to spell Kevin. Hit a tough shot, then forced another dumb one. Also stood in there to get run over by a truck named Boozer in the lane. They say that there is a fine line between courage and stupidity... Threw a marvelously bad pass for a TO in the garbage minutes. One of several on the night. Per normal, it was Quincy's little offensive bursts that attract attention, the rest... And the way we uised him tonight, looked like most of his mintes were as a backup to Kevin at OG. Of course a few more clunkers from Beno, andmaybe he gets another hsot at the point -- a position which he has shown himself marvelously ill suited for at this point.
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Dwight Howard -- and this dear folks is the sort of thing that can happen to you if you finnagle your way to the very top of the draft.


Watson ( INC ) -- one of those mysterious little 1 minute cameos in the first half. Then got back in for the final 3 minutes (aka garbagetime) and immediately threw the ball away.
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Barney Fife -- okay, admittedly Barney may not leap to mind as a first choice fro frontcourt help. But then again, have you seen our frontcourt??? (if you have by the way, would you mind giving them our number?)

Greene ( INC ) -- just in for garbagetime
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Mary Lou Retton -- oh, i can just hear the whining now: "She's too small" they complain. "She's a 39yr old mother of 4" they whine. "She just had hip replacement surgery" a couple of years ago they whimper. Jeesh, get over it. She used to be able to really jump. She's even perkier than Mikki was supposed to be. And have you SEEN the rest of our frontcourt?

Reggie ( C+ ) -- well, off on the road again, and another wipeout. Just like the first three games of the season when we were behind by an average of 19.8pts per game at half, we were down by 23 at half in this one. And just like those games we mouonted a feeble semi-comeback, only to fall well short. In this one we got it down to 10 once, but trailed by double figures for something like the final 40 minutes of the game. Reggie responded to Brad's absence by starting a pairing out of absolute nightmare. Yes, we started Mikki Moore and Kenny Thomas. Together. In one game. I wanted to cry. In fact I think I did there at some point while Boozer was completely trampling us in the first quarter as the Jazz ran off to a 35-18 lead. The 35 should have been 32 by the way, but we screwed up the end of 1st quarter about as bas as you can go, flubbing an inbounds pass with only seconds to go, having it end up in Boozer's hands, and then fouling him on the resulting layup for the +1. Reggie fiddled wiht Reef in the first quarter, to no good reults. Tried for some more Beano magic, found it wanting. About the only substitution that worked to some degree was giving Hawes his first extended run. And he was more just sdhowing flashes than anything special tonight. In the third, with our bigs pretty much worthless, Reggie went to a lineup with Udrih and all 3 of our wings (Kevin, Salmons, Cisco) in the later stages of the quarter and early 4th. We competed with that crew basically trying to fake it the way Golden State does, even drew a little closer at points, but in the end suffered the same fate the Warriors did against the big physical Jazz. There was a mutual descion to waive the white flag at the three minute mark, and maybe that was Sloan just trying to work wiht his old player. In any case, we got pummeled, but that is our reality now. Good teams, at home, are going to pummel us. Once you realize and admit that, its more of a shrug than a heartbreak. Just the way it will go until we finally complete the never ending rebuild. Or even start it.
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Greg Ostertag -- and you think I'm kidding? What is Tag up to these days anyway? Wanna earn another million or two big guy?
 
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J. Salmons: (A-) Rilly good!
K. Thomas: (F) Sucks. Needs to be bought out.
M. Moore: (F) Sucks. Needs to be bought out/Petrie should be slapped.
K. Martin: (B) Should've done more.
F. Garcia: (B-) Really tries, but WYSIWYG.
S. Abdur-Rahim: (F) Needs to retire or get bought out.
B. Udrih: (D+) Mediocre, but what do you expeckt?
S. Hawes: (B) Needs more PLAYING TIME!
Q. Douby: (C) Ho humm..
D. Watkins: (INC) Not very good, but miles better than anything else which could've been at the PF spot.
O. Greene: (INC) Did nothing really. Dissapointed in him. He could've done better if he'd have seized his early opportunities.
R. Artest: (DNP) Despite what peeps think about him playing PF, do you see anyone better who could be playing that spot? NO!
M. Bibby: (DNP) It'll be a loooooooong year!
B. Miller: (DNP) Gad DAmmiT! We really need him out there, esp. this improved version.
J. Williams: (DNP) Can't wait for him to come back. He's badly needed at the PF spot.
 
Placeholder "Brick is going to have to outdo himself with a good theme to make this interesting" post.

No pressure, Brick. ;)
 
no way on Gods earth that mikki moore should get a grade today. There is no grade low enough that'll justify the level of suck we have witnessed. Giving moore a grade will be an insult to the english alphabet. Like, Maybe we should give him a number instead. Just give him a 0
 
no way on Gods earth that mikki moore should get a grade today. There is no grade low enough that'll justify the level of suck we have witnessed. Giving moore a grade will be an insult to the english alphabet. Like, Maybe we should give him a number instead. Just give him a 0

As much as he ticks me off, you gotta give him a grade. He did lead the Kings in rebounding (not saying much at all) with 9. That gives him an F+ or maybe even a D-.
 
someone should tell Beno that we didn't bring him here to shoot. We brought him in to create shots for Martin and company. We already had 3 or 4 point guards that shoot. As good as he looked the other night he looked equally as bad tonight. Like a less talented rookie Jason Williams.
 
J. Salmons: (A-) Rilly good!
K. Thomas: (F) Sucks. Needs to be bought out.
M. Moore: (F) Sucks. Needs to be bought out/Petrie should be slapped.
K. Martin: (B) Should've done more.
F. Garcia: (B-) Really tries, but WYSIWYG.
S. Abdur-Rahim: (F) Needs to retire or get bought out.
B. Udrih: (D+) Mediocre, but what do you expeckt?
S. Hawes: (B) Needs more PLAYING TIME!
Q. Douby: (C) Ho humm..
D. Watkins: (INC) Not very good, but miles better than anything else which could've been at the PF spot.
O. Greene: (INC) Did nothing really. Dissapointed in him. He could've done better if he'd have seized his early opportunities.
R. Artest: (DNP) Despite what peeps think about him playing PF, do you see anyone better who could be playing that spot? NO!
M. Bibby: (DNP) It'll be a loooooooong year!
B. Miller: (DNP) Gad DAmmiT! We really need him out there, esp. this improved version.
J. Williams: (DNP) Can't wait for him to come back. He's badly needed at the PF spot.

Wait, justins still on the team!?
 
He is still under contract until the end of the season. Its rumored he may be back soon. What happens to him is up to GP. Given the current PF's we have GP should keep him if not he should have a firey bag of pooh sitting in front of his door.
 
You guys better get used to the Kings getting their butts kicked by at least 16+ plus on a nightly basis. These King's team is TERRIBLE. I don't see how you all wants the young guys to play. This is almost too painful to watch. In the last 7 games, the Kings haven gotten their a** kicked 4 times out of 7 games. What a surprise. :rolleyes:
 
You guys better get used to the Kings getting their butts kicked by at least 16+ plus on a nightly basis. These King's team is TERRIBLE. I don't see how you all wants the young guys to play. This is almost too painful to watch. In the last 7 games, the Kings haven gotten their a** kicked 4 times out of 7 games. What a surprise. :rolleyes:

Cmon now. We aren't that bad. Our guards are pretty nasty. We just can't seem to find a decent power forward. Hawes looked great.
 
You guys better get used to the Kings getting their butts kicked by at least 16+ plus on a nightly basis. These King's team is TERRIBLE. I don't see how you all wants the young guys to play. This is almost too painful to watch. In the last 7 games, the Kings haven gotten their a** kicked 4 times out of 7 games. What a surprise. :rolleyes:

Doesn't bother me much as I had the lowest expectations.

I feel bad for people who had any expectations...this season will be plenty painful.
 
Given the current PF's we have GP should keep him if not he should have a firey bag of pooh sitting in front of his door.

And, if that is the case, I propose that the firey bag of poo be our starting PF. At least it would slow guys down on their way to the basket.
 
Barney Fife -- okay, admittedly Barney may not leap to mind as a first choice fro frontcourt help. But then again, have you seen our frontcourt??? (if you have by the way, would you mind giving them our number?)

Mary Lou Retton -- oh, i can just hear the whining now: "She's too small" they complain. "She's a 39yr old mother of 4" they whine. "She just had hip replacement surgery" a couple of years ago they whimper. Jeesh, get over it. She used to be able to really jump. She's even perkier than Mikki was supposed to be. And have you SEEN the rest of our frontcourt?

Greg Ostertag -- and you think I'm kidding? What is Tag up to these days anyway? Wanna earn another million or two big guy?

Quite possibly the best "theme" comments you've made...

:D
 
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