[Grades] Grades v. Cheaters 1/13/15

Who you pissed at, select all that apply:

  • Tyson Chandler

    Votes: 44 51.2%
  • Lauren Holtcamp

    Votes: 51 59.3%
  • the NBA

    Votes: 28 32.6%
  • Tyrone Corbin

    Votes: 38 44.2%
  • Mark Cuban

    Votes: 19 22.1%
  • Darren Collison

    Votes: 7 8.1%
  • Ray McCallum

    Votes: 5 5.8%
  • PDA

    Votes: 47 54.7%
  • the higher power of your choice

    Votes: 13 15.1%
  • Justin Bieber

    Votes: 34 39.5%

  • Total voters
    86
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1


Not amused.

Not amused with Tyson Chandler.

Not amused by floppers. If we're not going to play Reggie as a basketball player than at the very least we should start inserting him to start delivering a little justice. Kidneys and groins make good targets.

Not amused with Lauren Holtcamp.

Not amused with that ****er Mark Cuban, who you may remember tried to help steal our team.

Not terribly amused with Darren Collison, who sucked seriously hard down the stretch and into OT once we lost our superstar to a flop.

Not amused by our idiot of a coach, who apparently decided to own the inexplicably stupid clock decision at the end of the overtime that really slammed the door on eve a miracle.

Am at least impressed with national audiences who immediately cried foul on the flop.

Am impressed by Arco fans chanting MVP for Cuz. Somebody there deserves some cred.

Am concerned we are paying for all the bad karma we piled up chortling when Vlade cheated back in the day. This one was ridiculous though. He'll get fined. Big whoop. It quite literally could have decided the game. Cuz had him. He was going to catch the ball, in the post, 8-10feet from the hoop. So Tyson Chandler cheated. And a rookie ref bought it. And here you thought it took years of NBA training for a ref to get incompetent. No, they intentionally recruit them that way.


Boxscore

Stats: 10min 3pts (1-1, 0-0, 2-2) 2reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Gay ( INC ) -- Some players might get an actual grade after 10 minutes of action, but Rudy gets the incomplete. His first ten minutes he looked content to mostly move the ball and get other guys involved. He made a couple of bad passes that could have resulted in turn-overs but was fortunate that the remained Kings possessions, but he also recorded two assists, and had a couple of passes that could have resulted in assists. He only took one shot, an iso face-up jumper, which he made about mid-way through the quarter. At the 1:45 mark he came out of the game due to a knee injury. He’s day to day, and hopefully he’ll be able to get back on the court soon. It wasn’t a great performance out there today, especially since he continued to rotate into the paint to guard Maverick rollers which led to multiple scoring opportunities to Parsons in the corner, but usually he has a lot more time to work his game, and this one got cut far too short. --Uncia

Stats: 20min 6pts (2-3, 0-0, 2-4) 7reb 1ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Thompson ( C+ ) -- JT only scored 6 points on 2 of 3 shooting from the floor, and he went 2 for 4 from the free throw line. He only played 20 minutes, but mostly because of foul trouble. He started off the game with a nice move to the basket on a pass from Cousins for a layup. However, following that play, he was slow getting back on transition, leaving Cuz one on one with Nowitzki who spun past Cuz for a layup. From that point on, until JT went to the bench at the 2:29 mark of the 1st quarter, he played good defense on Dirk. JT started the 2nd half on a bad note by throwing the ball away, and continued in that vein by cheating too far off of Nowitzki who promptly hit a three. JT did have a blocked shot on a nice sequence in a second chance possession by the Mav's. He also pulled down 7 boards. He got some extra minutes thanks to the overtime, and Cousins fouling out on a terrible call. However, JT wasn't giving us much of anything on the offensive side of the ball, and we could have used it with Cuz sitting on the bench. --Baja

Stats: 40min 32pts (11-21, 0-0, 10-10) 16reb 9ast 2stl 1blk 9TO
Cousins ( A ) -- you know one test of greatness might be when you score 14 first quarter points...and your designated grader doesn't even think you are playing that well. Didn't have huge energy, wasn't much on the glass or able to clog the rim, although he was at least conscientiously keeping Chandler from those open alley oops behind the play. And because his greatness has reached such a fever pitch that he's getting the all time great treatment now, with teams doubling him on the catch even out at the three point line just to make him give it up, he was being forced into long jumpers. Except, being great, he just started knocking them down and knocking them down. A larger issue, and then one holding back the "+" here is that those immediate doubles were resulting in turnovers. You can hardly call it an unforced turnover when you have Rajon Rondo running over to swarm you, but on the other hand he seemed to be just barely missing on some makeable escape passes. Another test of greatness might be when you come out and thrash around a former DPOY like a chewtoy, and that began in earnest in the second quarter as he got more and more physical, and began to bang Chandler back into the paint and score over and through him, and got more active blocking and challenging shots on the other end. By halftime he was sitting at 20pts 6reb, and I would have given him some sort of B. :eek: And he was again doing it without fouling, which became such a ridiculous story later. He overdribbled into an offensive foul in the final 30 seconds of the half, and it was his first of the game. It took only 24 minutes for the refs to foul him the rest of the way out after the half. A third indicator of greatness might come if you look around at the grades for the rest of the starters here, and realize that DeMarcus Cousins lost Rudy Gay by the end of the first quarter (knee strain) and had to carry his team almost singlehandedly with whatever support he got coming from the much maligned bencheteers. And yet against a now 27-12 Western power, he almost singlehandedly beat them anyway. Moreso, you have to look at the shooting of his starting backcourt, and realize that somehow he managed to force guys to hit enough shots that he had 9 assists. And he legitimately should have had the triple double if Darren Collison...well didn't suck so hard late in the game. Blatantly passing on one attempt form Cuz, missing another, and generally doing everything possible to simultaneously deny Cuz the triple and cost us the game. But anyway, since Ben had already missed half a dozen setups by that point, and Cuz was pretty much having to pass the ball right to the rim for alley oops to get anybody to hot shots, DC was just joining the party. In any case, this game was Cousins, Cousins and more Cousins. And by the end of the thing Cuz stood at the line to put us up 4 and Sleep Train fans were chanting MVP. At least some of them. More of you who go to those things should join in, because if you are still fighting the greatness here, you're just being dumb. This IS what an MVP caliber center looks and plays like and his numbers and impact are on par with any of the legends that have gone before him now. But he needs some ****ing help. Not least from the idiot refs. Which of course brings us to the ridiculous play of the game everybody is chattering about. 21 seconds to go, tie game, off the inbounds play Boogie comes across the lane, does a swim move, has Chandler pinned 8 feet from the hoop...its perfectly set up for him to catch, half hook, step through, whatever. Chandler is dead, and he knows it. And so he flops. Throws his head back, aiieeee!!!!...and the ref buys it and fouls out one of the league's superstars on a flop in a tie game with 20 seconds to go, and gives the ball to the other team. I mean...you take into account timing, situations, score...that's one of the single worst calls anywhere in the league all year long. Its the call you cannot and do not make. She made it. We lose. But we're still the team with the future, just so long as this man is here, so we'll catch up to you old farts next time and see what's what. --Brick

Stats: 39min 8pts (2-8, 0-5, 4-4) 1reb 4ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
McLemore ( D ) -- An odd game for Ben as he was not able to stay with Ellis most of the night who was getting shots from everywhere for most of the game. Provided a little defense on rotations but got lost quite a number of times. Got his little offense going for a moment but was always busy chasing and losing Monte Ellis who ended up with 28 points. Did move well without the ball but only had 8 shots the whole game in 39 min on the court. In 2nd quarter Ben and Nik were both in with DC for a 3-guard set. Seemed to work. Ben gets 3 assists all down low and Kings go up 8. Makes one jumper for 2 and that was about it. Ran around a lot but had no confidence in his jumper. Ben’s shot is still off first 5 min of 3rd and still having trouble staying with Ellis. Misses another side 3 but gets 2 FT. Then another side 3 is NG. Then Ben back in first couple minutes of 4th. Tries another 3 missing now 0/4 for3’s. Still having trouble keeping Ellis back even in overtime. Does steal a jump ball. But that is about it for Ben’s contribution for the night. Not a good outing for him made worse by fewer touches. --Cruz

Stats: 45min 18pts (6-20, 0-6, 6-8) 7reb 3ast 3stl 0blk 3TO
Collison ( D ) -- Outside of his seven rebounds, I'm not sure that there was a whole lot to like about Darren's game tonight. He actually did all right in the first half, going 4-8 from the floor and getting three assists (all in the first quarter), but after that things went downhill pretty severely, at least on the offensive end. He went 2-12 from the field and 0-5 from three, and while two of those shots were buzzer beater prayers one of those was because he didn't know the clock and had to hoist it, so it was pretty much his own fault. Early in the fourth quarter (meaning before Cousins was fouled out, of course) we had some pretty crucial possessions and Collison decided to go it on his own for two turns in a row, taking a bad jumper both times, and neither fell. Sure, his dunk when Boogie found him in the seam in transition was neat, but it was one of only two baskets for Darren after halftime. I'm a bit torn about what to think of the totality of Darren's floor leadership in the second half. He didn't rack up a single assist after the first quarter, but in that time I did count no less than nine open shots that he set up that DIDN'T get knocked down, so it's not like he was completely stagnant on the ball. In fact, stagnant is not really the word I would use for Darren's PGing in the fourth quarter and overtime - "out of control" seems to be a more apt description. It's like he was trying to play too fast, pressured a lot by the D from Rondo, who was in his face over and over. When was the last time you saw us pressure a PG to pick up his dribble in the corner 30 feet from the basket and then have to throw a panicked prayer to a teammate? I can't remember. But Rondo did that to Darren a couple of times tonight, and harassed him continually. Darren's sloppy play was evident even when Rondo wasn't in his face - after a brilliant defensive play to break up a 2-on-1 break in the third quarter with a steal, he came back down court and tried to force the issue with a pass that wasn't there, giving it right back to the Mavs for an easy bucket the other way. Outside of that transition play, I don't think that we can really say Darren had a lot of defensive highlights on the day. Rondo seemed to have no trouble going wherever he wanted, and even though Rajon started out a bit slow on the scoring department, Collison was responsible for at least 15 of his 21 points. A few breaks didn't go his way, but he missed too many opportunities and played a bit too loose tonight to impress me. --Capt.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 36min 12pts (5-12, 0-2, 2-4) 10reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
Williams ( B ) -- With the injury to Rudy, DWill got a lot of minutes in this one, and all-in-all he performed solidly. The one thing that he did really well and consistently through-out the game was rebound. He finished the game with 10 rebounds and a good number of them were tough defensive rebounds in traffic. We all know that the best DWill out there is the aggressive DWill that attacks the paint, and that is the player we saw out on the court tonight. Unfortunately he missed his 2 open 3pt shots, and he only got 1 jumper to fall (more about that later) but all the rest of his points came either on dunks or free-throws. He had some very nice finishes in transition and his most explosive play came late in the 4th when he made a hard baseline cut and Cousins found him for the one-hand windmill slam. His best moment of the game came, however, when he knocked down a 16 foot jumper to put the Kings up by 4 points with only 1:30 left in regulation. The Kings had been struggling to score, and it wasn’t the best of offensive possessions, but they desperately needed a bucket, and DWill knocked one down which in theory could have been the play to keep the game out of reach. From a defensive standpoint, he fared pretty well. Got beat once or twice, but by and large wasn’t a sieve on that end, and actually had some good moments against both Dirk and Parsons. He wasn’t much of a factor in the overtime. He had a nice steal as he got into the passing lane early in OT, but on the ensuing possession promptly had his only turn-over of the game with a horribly soft bounce pass to Landry in the lane. He did get to the line once with the chance to tie it, but only managed to hit 1-2, which basically allowed the Mavericks to start their possession with the lead and they never looked back. So an all-around solid game by DWill. He rebounded very well, was aggressive attacking the rim on offense, wasn’t a liability on defense, and really other than the one turn-over didn’t make any mistakes. It would have been nice if he had hit his jumpers, but the most important one that he took, with the game on the line he made. My guess is that he’ll be getting a lot more playing time with Rudy’s injury, so I’m hoping that he’s able to play at this same level with the additional minutes he will probably be getting. --Uncia

Stats: 19min 4pts (1-3, 1-3, 1-2) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Stauskas ( D- ) -- in 19 min has total of 4 pts on one 3, one FT with 1 reb, period. Nik come with 3:10 left in 1st, then Ben back in for Cuz w/4.3 sec left in 1st quarter. Nik quiet and no touches rest of quarter. back in for last 4.5 sec. Nik starts 2nd w/DC and Ben in 3-guard set. Another great Ben pass down low to DWill for 2. Another ben pass down low to Landry for 2, now has 3 ast. Next down he's feeling it, takes couple steps inside an pops nice jumper for 2 his last made shot. And yet another feed to Landry going to basket. Nik has tried 2 wide open 3’s but nothing. Out for JT last few min of 2nd after very ineffective stint. 63-60 Kings at half. Nik in at 4:14 left in 3rd with Ben still in. Good drive by Nik down lane fouled, makes 1/2. Finally Nik hits a 3 on feed from Cuz at 0:50 left in 3rd. Nik stays for 4th. Did good defense to stop a penetration. --Cruz

Stats: 31min 14pts (7-10, 0-0, 0-0) 10reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Landry ( B+ ) -- Carl probably deserves some sort of medal tonight because he was obviously playing in quite a bit of painl. To got the point where he was passing the ball with his left hand. Apparently he hurt his wrist in the last game, and it didn't seem to be affecting him when he came into the game at the 1:44 mark of the 1st quarter. He immediately hit a 14 footer as he and Cousins started a relationship that would be beneficial to both. He next dunked the ball off of a feed by D. Will. He repeated that play, but this time off of a feed from McLemore. He then scored off of a missed shot with a put back layup. To make a long story short, 7 shots, 7 baskets, 14 points. That's as close to instant offense as you can get. His 7th basket came on a give and go, and he appeared to get hit on the sore wrist. From that point on he only attempted 3 more shots. He came back into the game at the 8:51 mark of the 3rd quarter, grabbed a board, attempted a put back and missed. From that point on, every time he handled the ball he grimaced. On another night he probably would have been on the bench, but tonight, with Gay already headed to the hospital for an MRI, JT in foul trouble, and D. Will pulling double duty at SF and SG, there was little choice but to play Landry. Despite the injury he managed to pull down 10 boards. This was one of Carl's better games. He even did a good job of guard Parsons, who is quicker than Landry. --Baja

Stats: 25min 6pts (3-8, 0-2, 0-0) 5reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
McCallum ( B- ) -- McCallum was called into extra duty tonight with Gay going out late in the first quarter. Because he was playing mostly at the 2-guard (Collison played all but 8 minutes at the point) he didn't have a lot of ball-handling duties, and because there tended to be a nominal SG on the floor playing the three beside him, he wasn't asked to shoot a ton. He began with a good shooting game - hitting three of his first four, the last of those a baseline jumper coming about halfway through the third quarter and tying the game. But after that point, he did not score and missed his final four shots, starting with an ugly and rushed 10-foot airball off of an offensive rebound. Speaking of rebounding, Ray did a good job on the glass, picking up five boards, three of those early in the fourth quarter. But the reason he was in the game (outside of being a warm body) was defense, and he gave Monta Ellis a hard time when he was guarding him. Monta had 28, but my numbers have Monta with only four on Ray (on 6 shots) with two of those being the end-of-game free throws. However, since I had to spend most of the game watching two players simultaneously, I may have missed an Ellis score or two on him. Still, the defense was pretty tight from Ray (Rondo didn't score on him in a few short stints, and Devin Harris only managed two points from the line after getting around Ray on a drive) and he did a good job holding down the fort in a time of need. He wasn't particularly good at moving the ball, especially for the few minutes that he was the designated point guard, but he was playing under control and there's something to be said for that. --Capt.
 
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#5
#6
Rudy Gay Injury Update

An MRI taken at Kaiser Permanente in Sacramento revealed that Kings forward Rudy Gay experienced a left knee lateral joint capsule sprain. The injury occurred with 1:44 to play in the first quarter of Tuesday night’s contest against the Dallas Mavericks.



Gay is listed as day to day.
 
#10
I answered PDA.

This roster (besides DMC) simply cannot compete against playoff teams that are playing hard (not even necessarily well).
Playoff teams simply have way better players on it. Demarcus was doing everything he realistically can do out there, and NOONE on the Kings could score in the entire second half.

This roster is FULL of dudes who couldn't make a clutch play if their lives depended on it.
The Kings are MANY roster changes away from getting a team capable of winning in real competitive games (like this one, and playoff ball).

Unfortunately, there were big obvious mistakes that will take KF's eyes off the real problem (PDA's crap roster) that cost the Kings this game:
* 1 of 18 from 3 point land
* Demarcus getting fouled out on a blatant flop (after the MORE blatant flop earlier in the 4th when DMC split the double team and Chandler flung his head back even though no limb was within 6 inches of his head)
* Corbin's inexplicable wasting of 10+ seconds before fouling "to see if Dallas was going to go for the quick shot" (hey, genius - they were up by 1 point - were you even aware of that?)
 
#13
Ailene Voisin ‏@ailene_voisin
7m7 minutes ago
Just a hunch, but from what I heard in visitors locker room, Mavs coaches likely to vote for DeMarcus Cousins for All-Star team. Big fans ..
And THIS is one of the most important aspects to the year (sadly).
The opposing coaches are the only people that matter, with regards to Boogie making the All-Star team.

With the entire opposing defenses centered around double-teaming and fouling and messing with Demarcus, I am pretty confident the opposing coaches won't be stupid enough to screw DMC out of the All-Star game this year.
 
#14
And THIS is one of the most important aspects to the year (sadly).
The opposing coaches are the only people that matter, with regards to Boogie making the All-Star team.

With the entire opposing defenses centered around double-teaming and fouling and messing with Demarcus, I am pretty confident the opposing coaches won't be stupid enough to screw DMC out of the All-Star game this year.
unfortunately i will not be confident in this happening until i hear the guys on TNT announcing his name. The West is just STACKED and our team sputtering to well below .500 is not going to help
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#19
unfortunately i will not be confident in this happening until i hear the guys on TNT announcing his name. The West is just STACKED and our team sputtering to well below .500 is not going to help
You keep saying that but with each additional monster game, Boogie is putting himself in a position where every single coach is going to reward him for being virtually unstoppable (unless you're a stupid rookie referee fooled by poor acting). Cousins really is THAT good. I remember the first time I saw Shaq play. My jaw literally dropped. It's the same way with Boogie.
 
#21
You keep saying that but with each additional monster game, Boogie is putting himself in a position where every single coach is going to reward him for being virtually unstoppable (unless you're a stupid rookie referee fooled by poor acting). Cousins really is THAT good. I remember the first time I saw Shaq play. My jaw literally dropped. It's the same way with Boogie.
I hope so! But the Kings fan in me will not let me keep from preparing for the worst
 
#24
Demarcus Cousins is my hero! I was so impressed with his play. So much determination. He gave it all and he was fantastic!

So sad to see it all slip away again on a bad call at the end of the game. It is getting hard to take watching sports these days with the outcomes constantly being decided by the officials. How many times........................................... When is it our turn?
 
#25
And our FO needs to get their heads our of their asses and stop waisting his talent. It's sad that he's going to finish his 5th season without playing in a single playoff game
Well, to be fair, he wasn't ready to lead a playoff team his first 3 years. Talented with oodles of potential and misued for sure, but he wasn't ready to be a playoff leader for a team. He's taken those extra strides last year and this year.
 
#26
Some questions came to my mind, after watching this game in re-live on League Pass.

1. Why the hell don't the refs review this kind of calls? It's a big deal, when you throw the best player off the court. Chandler clearly flopped and a review would have been the proper way to deal with this.
2. How can we cut down DMC turnovers? He is a great passer and has great ball-handling for a center, but still turns it over too much, cause pretty much the whole defense collapsed on him, the moment he catches the ball. There must be a way to make things easier for him. I actually thought we did a good job in the first quarter after 3 posessions where we simply fed him the ball in the post, which resulted in 3 turnovers. DC played a little pick&pop with DMC and really made it difficult to double him right on the catch. Sadly we didn't play like this with the game on the line.
3. Are you kidding me Rondo? All season long you brick those 3pointers.....


But after all the was great effort by the Kings. We were competitive without Rudy. We played some solid defense. We missed tons of open looks. Special thanks to Carl Landry for playing hurt and fighting through it.
Losing it this way hurts, but i can live with the way the Kings played.
 
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#29
It says alot about Demarcus Cousins when players have to flop before he even touches the ball.
Smart play by Chandler. As much as I hate it - flopping is part of the game and DMC is pretty good at selling fouls too. ;)
I blame the ref, who was staring at the back of Chandler and had no vision at all, for making this call. I don't blame Chandler for selling it, as long as guys like Harden are considered to be superstars.
 

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#30
We lost to a veteran team, and a veteran coach. They pulled it together during the last few minutes while we repeatedly tried to get the ball to Demarcus at past high post, but we really had no other playmakers in the halfcourt once Rudy was injured.

And Ty? Well, let's just say he's not one of the top 2 or 3 coaches who will win you games with his decision making.