Good move: Webber trade makes sense for Sacramento, Philly

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Couldn't find this article posted yet, but then again, there have been about a million posts since 9pm last night. Sorry if this is a duplicate:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/marty_burns/02/24/webber.reax/index.html?cnn=yes

WHY THE KINGS MADE THE TRADE

Chemistry. Chris Webber is an All-Star caliber talent, but he didn't get along with Peja Stojakovic. One of the two had to go, and Kings GM Geoff Petrie apparently decided Webber's knee problems and huge contract (three more years, $62 million) made him more expendable. Also, Webber's tendency to hold the ball and his limited mobility on defense since returning from left knee surgery last year had become on-court issues for Sacramento. The Kings had lost some of the flow they displayed last year when Stojakovic was more of a focus of the offense, and on defense they were giving up too many points in the paint. Kenny Thomas, Corliss Williamson and Brian Skinner are solid players who should help fortify Sacramento's defense while bringing much-needed frontcourt depth. But it remains to be seen how well they will fit into the Kings' free-flowing offense since none is known for his passing.

WHY THE SIXERS MADE THE TRADE

It's not everyday a 6-foot-10 five-time All-Star becomes available. With Allen Iverson coming out recently and saying he wanted more help, the chance to add Webber was simply too good to pass up. Even with his gimpy knee, C-Webb is averaging 24 points and nine boards this season. Not since Jerry Stackhouse has Iverson had a legit healthy 20-point scorer alongside him. Webber also is a great passer who can work the high post. The Sixers will miss the frontcourt depth provided by Thomas, Williamson and Skinner, but GM Billy King felt the Sixers needed a big-time scorer more. Philly hopes that coach Jim O'Brien and assistant Dick Harter can mask Webber's flaws on defense. The Sixers are also taking a huge gamble that Webber's knee holds up for the remainder of the contract. But with Iverson getting older, and the Atlantic Division race wide open, they want to win now.

BOTTOM LINE

This trade makes sense for both teams. Philly needed another scorer to complement Iverson, who is having an MVP-type season. Webber, though a long-term risk because of his knee, should at least provide an immediate offensive boost. It might even be enough to push the Sixers over the top in the Atlantic. As for the Kings, they had been shopping Webber for months, so that part of it is not a big surprise. But few would have guessed they would take back three role players for their five-time All-Star. Obviously, Petrie believes he has enough scorers in the likes of Stojakovic, Mike Bibby, Cuttino Mobley and Brad Miller to make a run for the NBA title this year. Meanwhile he felt the C-Webb Era had run its course and that he needed to get his contract off their books. Even if the Kings don't win the title this year, it all but assures that Stojakovic will rescind his earlier request to be traded.
 
Problem I find is AI never has gotten along with other big time scorers on his team, Hughes, Stack, hopefully he can get along with a post 20 point scorer.
 
Last night on the Kings radio, Mike Lamb, Grant and Gary Gerold agree on one thing. It's that they're surprise a team actually wanted a not 100% Webber's big contract. I believe the 76ers wanted Webber mainly because of this:
gotpitbull said:
The Sixers are also taking a huge gamble that Webber's knee holds up for the remainder of the contract. But with Iverson getting older, and the Atlantic Division race wide open, they want to win now.

bigbadred00 said:
Problem I find is AI never has gotten along with other big time scorers on his team
Well, he does average the most attempts per game...not just for his team...but the whole NBA.
 
Too many Kings fans are getting caught up in the moment rather than looking at the long term effects of this deal. Next year or maybe even the year after Philly is going to be a lot like the Knicks are right now...too many big contracts with too many over the hill and oft injured stars. It's better to trade someone a year too earlier rather than a year too late.
 
Diabetic they will have 2 big contracts, Webber and AI. AI is arguably one of the best players in the league and with his heart can continue for years. Webber will be pretty well for the next years to end his career. On top of that the 6ers have a great young core in Iggy, Daly (who they probally wont keep), Green and Korver. These guys are in there early 20s and can be a force. Phily gets rid of Robinson in the offseason. The 6ers won't have a big problem with salary e/c Webber and AI who they obviously want......6ers don't have 4 max players like the knicks they have 2.
 
Diabeticwonder said:
Too many Kings fans are getting caught up in the moment rather than looking at the long term effects of this deal. Next year or maybe even the year after Philly is going to be a lot like the Knicks are right now...too many big contracts with too many over the hill and oft injured stars. It's better to trade someone a year too earlier rather than a year too late.

No they won't -- Big Dog comes off the book for them next year, and their saleries will be no higher than now (much less actually). And the rest of their core is a bunch of kids who they don't have to pay at the moment. This was a complete no brainer for them. 2 superstars, bench full of role cheap players -- hmm...weren't we just talking about this a couple of days ago?
 
Webber is still an Elite player, maybe not superstar who according to some are just 3 or 4 players in the NBA. They have a former MVP and a Elite player who isbetter than any player that was on the team currently. Webber and AI could make a good combo, who knows though until they play.
 
Chemistry. Chris Webber is an All-Star caliber talent, but he didn't get along with Peja Stojakovic. One of the two had to go, and Kings GM Geoff Petrie apparently decided Webber's knee problems and huge contract (three more years, $62 million) made him more expendable.
why is this always used by the media when nobody said anything like this? i remember when antonio daniels, who has his weaknesses and strengths too, was traded from the spurs to blazers. the media kept harping on some imaginary rift in the lockerroom, that he's a cancer and all that. it just wasn't true. he ended up being tim duncan's best man a couple years ago.

the media should have to give some kind of identification for comments like this. they didn't so much as say "according to someone in the kings organization".

i personally think webber can run a short fuse once in a while, but i don't believe this crap for a second.
 
Don't you find it interesting that the last trade, Magic fans were estatically angry that Mobley got traded, we aren't playing that well since (well we were 10-3 before the last stretch), but they are now under 500 with Christie. Now Kings fans are estatically angry that we traded webber for the most part, and Philly fans are estatically happy.....hmmm...not a great sign. It also doesn't hurt that there are no other PFs in the East other than JO and Sheed that he has to compete with 3 or 4 times a year or in the playoffs. He is now in the weakest division and weaker conference by a mile.............yeah...I guess why Webber wasn't that angry when he was at the press conference.
 
LPKingsFan said:
Though to be honest with you, were we calling Webb a superstar?

As always, right on the border. You notch 3 triple doubles in a week, are hitting clutch shots, you're pretty close.
 
I would agree with this if what you were getting in return was worth trading a Hall of Famer for.


Diabeticwonder said:
Too many Kings fans are getting caught up in the moment rather than looking at the long term effects of this deal. Next year or maybe even the year after Philly is going to be a lot like the Knicks are right now...too many big contracts with too many over the hill and oft injured stars. It's better to trade someone a year too earlier rather than a year too late.
 
I think Petrie, Adelman, and the Maloofs must believe that Webber's physical prognosis is grim, otherwise the trade would not have occured. I just don't think that Peja's attitude was ever an issue.
 
Now that Philly has also acquired Mash, they now have three big contracts eating up most of their cap room although Mash makes considerably less than Webb and AI he still makes a ton of cash for someone who may never play again. Sure, they won't be just like the Knicks are this year, but they will be close. In '06 they will have three guys taking up almost $50 mill of cap room....not a good thing considering who those three are and their penchant for being injured.
 
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