Fire Christie

How can we make that determination though? Based on what? You thinking he struggles in practice?

If he sinks, show it now so we can move on. But its an organizational failure, imo, if we move on without actually giving the guy a chance
I would think there would be tremendous organizational pressure on coaching to play him if they felt he was remotely NBA ready.

We are "known" to have passed up a trade last minute due to his availability in the draft presumably for a big wing to pair with Keegan that Fox had been demanding.

That lead to the disastrous set of moves to clear space and trade for Deebo (you can put the Davion trade and urgency around Sasha who ended up walking away from his contract cap penalty free).

The poor roster fit from there forward lead to the complete destruction of the remaining core of the Beam Team and firing of Brown.

If I owned this team I would be demanding to see what we threw it all away for. So I'm guessing they are seeing that elsewhere and thinking they can't put him in a game right now.

Again we gave plenty of opportunity to Colby Jones who was a second round pick and Chris Duarte who I think we traded a second round pick for. We can say this team failed to get the most out of Davion but why draft an undersized PG first round when you have that one spot locked down (remember we still had Haliburton when we drafted him!). This is really just feeling like a Monte f up at this point to me and I'm kind of fine to move on from it.
 
I would think there would be tremendous organizational pressure on coaching to play him if they felt he was remotely NBA ready.

We are "known" to have passed up a trade last minute due to his availability in the draft presumably for a big wing to pair with Keegan that Fox had been demanding.

That lead to the disastrous set of moves to clear space and trade for Deebo (you can put the Davion trade and urgency around Sasha who ended up walking away from his contract cap penalty free).

The poor roster fit from there forward lead to the complete destruction of the remaining core of the Beam Team and firing of Brown.

If I owned this team I would be demanding to see what we threw it all away for. So I'm guessing they are seeing that elsewhere and thinking they can't put him in a game right now.

Again we gave plenty of opportunity to Colby Jones who was a second round pick and Chris Duarte who I think we traded a second round pick for. We can say this team failed to get the most out of Davion but why draft an undersized PG first round when you have that one spot locked down (remember we still had Haliburton when we drafted him!). This is really just feeling like a Monte f up at this point to me and I'm kind of fine to move on from it.
Different regime though in regards to these previous players. I could buy your point of view if we weren’t an 8 win team and the GM finally saying we need to get younger. Also, he’s not going to be a PG most likely but his comp has been a Josh Hart type. Maybe he’s a guy who can impact games. This just looks like he’s not going to get his opportunity because Scott Perry didn’t draft him. That is the vibe I and others are getting with Perry. A guy with an ego who thinks he’s smarter than every one else. For Kings fans sake, I hope he is that guy
 
Different regime though in regards to these previous players. I could buy your point of view if we weren’t an 8 win team and the GM finally saying we need to get younger. Also, he’s not going to be a PG most likely but his comp has been a Josh Hart type. Maybe he’s a guy who can impact games. This just looks like he’s not going to get his opportunity because Scott Perry didn’t draft him. That is the vibe I and others are getting with Perry. A guy with an ego who thinks he’s smarter than every one else. For Kings fans sake, I hope he is that guy
But it's still the same owner that everyone blames for this mess. Everyone is calling Christie and Perry Vivek puppets. It's a big constant throughout this thread that he is just Vivek's yes man. Like I said, if I owned this team, I would be DEMANDING to see the guy we threw everything away for get minutes. They forced bad picks to play all the time. Why not now?

I think there is a reason even if they aren't forthcoming with it.

Incidentally if the only reason is "Perry doesn't like him" then that would crush the narrative on Vivek.
 
Different regime though in regards to these previous players. I could buy your point of view if we weren’t an 8 win team and the GM finally saying we need to get younger. Also, he’s not going to be a PG most likely but his comp has been a Josh Hart type. Maybe he’s a guy who can impact games. This just looks like he’s not going to get his opportunity because Scott Perry didn’t draft him. That is the vibe I and others are getting with Perry. A guy with an ego who thinks he’s smarter than every one else. For Kings fans sake, I hope he is that guy
He wasn't even projected to be a lead guard coming out of college. Everyone talked about him as a 2 with the ability to guard 1-3
 
But it's still the same owner that everyone blames for this mess. Everyone is calling Christie and Perry Vivek puppets. It's a big constant throughout this thread that he is just Vivek's yes man. Like I said, if I owned this team, I would be DEMANDING to see the guy we threw everything away for get minutes. They forced bad picks to play all the time. Why not now?

I think there is a reason even if they aren't forthcoming with it.

Most of us don't believe that McNair wanted to trade for Lavine and that Perry wanted to sign Westbrook. That leaves the owner as the one pushing for these moves and the GM's are then his yes man. Christie is also a yes man, because he has no power and this is his one chance to hold onto a head coaching spot. He can afford to lose a lot of games if he is going along with the front office plan. He doesn't want to "go rogue" and get fired, knowing that this is just a gap year
 
Most of us don't believe that McNair wanted to trade for Lavine and that Perry wanted to sign Westbrook. That leaves the owner as the one pushing for these moves and the GM's are then his yes man. Christie is also a yes man, because he has no power and this is his one chance to hold onto a head coaching spot. He can afford to lose a lot of games if he is going along with the front office plan. He doesn't want to "go rogue" and get fired, knowing that this is just a gap year
I am about 80% that Russ was Perry. It feels in line with the small body of work we saw during his brief tenure here. It also feels like maybe a signal to agents and vets down the road that they can rehab here. I'm eager to see if he is moved at the deadline and if we get anything more than a second rounder for our trouble because if it pays off it will only be helpful over the next 2-3 years to get similar deals in.

Also I'm 75% that Zach was driven by KLUTCH.
 
I think they don't want to come because Sacramento regardless of who the owner is. And this applies to a number of other cities around the league as well including the one I call home today. We weren't swimming with people begging to join the team when the Maloofs were golden boys and the team played the most exciting basketball in the league either.

During the early 2000’s and “the greatest show on court” players from all over wanted to come here. I remember that time like it was yesterday. This team was set in the front office with Petrie and set at the coaching position. That team was stable, something this franchise hasn’t been in a very long time.
 
During the early 2000’s and “the greatest show on court” players from all over wanted to come here. I remember that time like it was yesterday. This team was set in the front office with Petrie and set at the coaching position. That team was stable, something this franchise hasn’t been in a very long time.
Who was the big free agent signing? Best I remember was the sign and trade for Miller. We were lucky to win over Webber and I will absolutely concede the vast majority of players during this time loved playing here and for the team, but we weren't a draw for free agents.

Same thing up here in Portland really. And I am dead certain SLC and a few other places have it worse (OKC probably which is part of why Presti prioritizes all those picks).
 
Who was the big free agent signing? Best I remember was the sign and trade for Miller. We were lucky to win over Webber and I will absolutely concede the vast majority of players during this time loved playing here and for the team, but we weren't a draw for free agents.

Same thing up here in Portland really. And I am dead certain SLC and a few other places have it worse (OKC probably which is part of why Presti prioritizes all those picks).
Which city's are considered a draw for players, regardless of the current state of the team? New York, LA, and Miami? That's only 4-5 teams out of 30, so not sure that it can used as an excuse relative to the vast majority of the competition
 
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Who was the big free agent signing? Best I remember was the sign and trade for Miller. We were lucky to win over Webber and I will absolutely concede the vast majority of players during this time loved playing here and for the team, but we weren't a draw for free agents.
Vlade was probably as big of a signing as Miller, but that signing was a part of the genesis of our success, not a signing that could be attributed to our prior/current winning.
 
Which city's are considered a draw for players, regardless of the current state of the team? New York, LA, and Miami? That's only 4-5 teams out of 30, so not sure that it can used as an excuse relative to the vast majority of the competition
Probably any team in a taxed advantaged state. Plus those with a lot to do for young rich Black men. There's certain cities that also produce a lot of NBA talent that there is a draw to "go home to". Seattle would check a lot of those boxes and so would Las Vegas when expansion happens.
 
I've been watching this thread since it began and i could not help but notice that the op did not pose this as a question ("Is it time to fire Coach Christie?") but instead suggested that now is the time to fire the coach (in November???)
I'm glad that posters responded negatively to the idea of prematurely firing yet another coach, but I suspect that there are a number of people (including myself) who believe that Doug will get his two years - and that will be enough. More on that at the end.
People are saying that Doug is a "yes-man" (for Vivek) but if Doug is saying, "Hell no - we aren't tanking", recent performances suggest that this tanking thing is premature - or perhaps it is just a one year tank to get a player to build around and the supporting cast might be ok (at least for next year - after all, except Keon, everyone is signed). Add just one lottery pick (say, a Cooper Flagg type) to Sabonis, DeRozen, LaVine and Keegan (and a good young point guard acquired at the trading deadline) and tell me that is not a competitive team!
I realize that the record is terrible - for all intents and purposes, the slow start dooms the Kings to finishing in the bottom five in the west - and people naturally blame the team anchors, DeRozen and LaVine - Sabonis and Murray haven't played enough to be blamed for the start.
Like everyone, i hated when the team was noncompetitive, but this homestand has been different and I do not want to "give away" LaVine and DeRozen. If someone is going to offer good first rounders for them, ok, but I don't think we should unload them just for the sake of movement.
When I watch DeRozen, I see a guy who is playing like he knows exactly what he is doing - he is so careful about taking good shots (from his "spots") and he takes no "bad shots" - some don't go in, but i rarely feel that he us hurting the team by his shot selection.
His game may be "slow paced" (dribble, dribble, get position, shoot), but DeRozen is using "finesse" rather than "speed and power", so, I would not be surprised if he played well until he was forty.
Same with LaVine, If the shot is there, he takes it ; if not, he passes.
Westbrook and Schroeder I'm not sold on - if we are going to make a deadline deal, let's get a starting point guard (even if he's young).
Miles "Deuce" McBride fits our needs- but I will start a separate thread on the trade deadline.
Wrapping up this post on this thread, let me give you a different way to look at Doug:

Doug is learning on the job. He still doesn't understand the "use of time outs" (or is it "times out?). On Sunday, Portland made their "run" in the latter stages of the second quarter, then held on to the lead. Both teams had used their "mandatory time outs . With two minutes left, Doug refused to call a time out. Big mistake, especially for a team that is "out of it".
I would urge Doug to use a timeout whenever there is a "teaching moment". At this moment, Doug is a "teacher" learning to be a "strategist". For this year, at least, forget about "strategy" (that is for "winning" teams) and focus on teaching.
I would urge a "radical" style of coaching (for this season) which would begin with this "rule":
USE A TIMEOUT WHENEVER YOU SEE A "TEACHING MOMENT"
If that means calling ALL SEVEN allotted time outs in the first half, DO IT.

A lot of people don't understand the timeout rules (including the "mandatories"). I'm willing to bet that Doug has never thought this through - that will come with time.
A coach may use his allotted time outs whenever he wants (with no penalty - even if he calls all seven in the first quarter).
After that (let's say you are out of timeouts after quarter number one) a coach (or a player) cannot CALL a timeout. without penalty (technical foul- free throws for the opponent) BUT the refs will still assess a mandatory timeout each of the remaining quarters because THE PURPOSE OF MANDATORY TIMEOUTS IS TO GUARANTEE COMMERCIAL TIME FOR SPONSORS.
So, in this example (all seven timeouts called in first quarter) the team would still wind up with TEN time outs, but NO penalty (the only "penalty" regarding time outs is if you CALL one after you are out of them). So, more "teaching moments".

There is a lot to learn about coaching. And if we are adding a lot of young players. teaching moments will be necessary.

But the most important thing about Doug is that the Kings job is not necessarily his goal.

The previous post ended thusly:

"Seattle would check a lot of those boxes and so would Las Vegas when expansion happens."

I expected someone to piggyback on that statement, realizing that Doug is FROM Seattle.

Vivek is both taking a look at how the Kings would look with Christie on a five year contract AND doing Doug a "favor" by allowing him to gain the experience that would allow an expansion franchise to hire him as their first coach (BJax is in the wings)
As a middle schooler, living in the Seattle projects, Doug had a remarkable experience, maybe even "life changing". The Supersonics had a "contest" whereby middle school students could submit their names to go in a drawing, but only if they got signatures from two teachers and the Principal that said that the student was working hard to live up to their academic abilities. Doug had to work hard to find that second teacher but he got in the drawing and HIS NAME WAS DRAWN.
The "prize for winning" was that a Sonics player would arrive in a limo to pick up the student and they would ride to the arena together, shake hands and say goodbye and the player would enter through the player's tunnel and the student would get a good seat to the game (then the limo would bring him home alone).
You can imagine how thrilled (and important) young Doug must have felt when a limo arrived and out stepped the Sonics best player (Xavier McDaniel) asking the crowd (a limo drew some attention), "Where is Doug Christie - I'm here to take him to the game" while the kids in the crowd ooohed and aaahed, "That's the X-Man and he's here to pick up Doug".
I hope that Doug institutes this program in Sacramento next season, or re-institutes it in Seattle.

But my point is that Seattle would be a dream job and an expansion coach is not "expected" to "win right away". Seattle could be Doug's eventual destination, as a "teacher", working mostly with young players, which is his specialty.

So, if the tradeoff for being "suitable for hire" (after 2+ years as a Head Coach, thanks to Vivek) is that he is perceived as a "yes man", well, I think Doug can take that heat.

He may not be the right fit for this team, but he will be perfect for the new Sonics. Doug is playing the long game.

(some of you may want to google, "Chat GPT Predicts next 75 NBA Champions" from last year. Pay particular attention to when the Sonics are predicted to win one and when the Kings will get one - most of us will be dead when the Kings celebrate if GTP is correct).
 
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I've been watching this thread since it began and i could not help but notice that the op did not pose this as a question ("Is it time to fire Coach Christie?") but instead suggested that now is the time to fire the coach (in November???)
I'm glad that posters responded negatively to the idea of prematurely firing yet another coach, but I suspect that there are a number of people (including myself) who believe that Doug will get his two years - and that will be enough. More on that at the end.
People are saying that Doug is a "yes-man" (for Vivek) but if Doug is saying, "Hell no - we aren't tanking", recent performances suggest that this tanking thing is premature - or perhaps it is just a one year tank to get a player to build around and the supporting cast might be ok (at least for next year - after all, except Keon, everyone is signed). Add just one lottery pick (say, a Cooper Flagg type) to Sabonis, DeRozen, LaVine and Keegan (and a good young point guard acquired at the trading deadline) and tell me that is not a competitive team!
I realize that the record is terrible - for all intents and purposes, the slow start dooms the Kings to finishing in the bottom five in the west - and people naturally blame the team anchors, DeRozen and LaVine - Sabonis and Murray haven't played enough to be blamed for the start.
Like everyone, i hated when the team was noncompetitive, but this homestand has been different and I do not want to "give away" LaVine and DeRozen. If someone is going to offer good first rounders for them, ok, but I don't think we should unload them just for the sake of movement.
When I watch DeRozen, I see a guy who is playing like he knows exactly what he is doing - he is so careful about taking good shots (from his "spots") and he takes no "bad shots" - some don't go in, but i rarely feel that he us hurting the team by his shot selection.
His game may be "slow paced" (dribble, dribble, get position, shoot), but DeRozen is using "finesse" rather than "speed and power", so, I would not be surprised if he played well until he was forty.
Same with LaVine, If the shot is there, he takes it ; if not, he passes.
Westbrook and Schroeder I'm not sold on - if we are going to make a deadline deal, let's get a starting point guard (even if he's young).
Miles "Deuce" McBride fits our needs- but I will start a separate thread on the trade deadline.
Wrapping up this post on this thread, let me give you a different way to look at Doug:

Doug is learning on the job. He still doesn't understand the "use of time outs" (or is it "times out?). On Sunday, Portland made their "run" in the latter stages of the second quarter, then held on to the lead. Both teams had used their "mandatory time outs . With two minutes left, Doug refused to call a time out. Big mistake, especially for a team that is "out of it".
I would urge Doug to use a timeout whenever there is a "teaching moment". At this moment, Doug is a "teacher" learning to be a "strategist". For this year, at least, forget about "strategy" (that is for "winning" teams) and focus on teaching.
I would urge a "radical" style of coaching (for this season) which would begin with this "rule":
USE A TIMEOUT WHENEVER YOU SEE A "TEACHING MOMENT"
If that means calling ALL SEVEN allotted time outs in the first half, DO IT.

A lot of people don't understand the timeout rules (including the "mandatories"). I'm willing to bet that Doug has never thought this through - that will come with time.
A coach may use his allotted time outs whenever he wants (with no penalty - even if he calls all seven in the first quarter).
After that (let's say you are out of timeouts after quarter number one) a coach (or a player) cannot CALL a timeout. without penalty (technical foul- free throws for the opponent) BUT the refs will still assess a mandatory timeout each of the remaining quarters because THE PURPOSE OF MANDATORY TIMEOUTS IS TO GUARANTEE COMMERCIAL TIME FOR SPONSORS.
So, in this example (all seven timeouts called in first quarter) the team would still wind up with TEN time outs, but NO penalty (the only "penalty" regarding time outs is if you CALL one after you are out of them). So, more "teaching moments".

There is a lot to learn about coaching. And if we are adding a lot of young players. teaching moments will be necessary.

But the most important thing about Doug is that the Kings job is not necessarily his goal.

The previous post ended thusly:

"Seattle would check a lot of those boxes and so would Las Vegas when expansion happens."

I expected someone to piggyback on that statement, realizing that Doug is FROM Seattle.

Vivek is both taking a look at how the Kings would look with Christie on a five year contract AND doing Doug a "favor" by allowing him to gain the experience that would allow an expansion franchise to hire him as their first coach (BJax is in the wings)
As a middle schooler, living in the Seattle projects, Doug had a remarkable experience, maybe even "life changing". The Supersonics had a "contest" whereby middle school students could submit their names to go in a drawing, but only if they got signatures from two teachers and the Principal that said that the student was working hard to live up to their academic abilities. Doug had to work hard to find that second teacher but he got in the drawing and HIS NAME WAS DRAWN.
The "prize for winning" was that a Sonics player would arrive in a limo to pick up the student and they would ride to the arena together, shake hands and say goodbye and the player would enter through the player's tunnel and the student would get a good seat to the game (then the limo would bring him home alone).
You can imagine how thrilled (and important) young Doug must have felt when a limo arrived and out stepped the Sonics best player (Xavier McDaniel) asking the crowd (a limo drew some attention), "Where is Doug Christie - I'm here to take him to the game" while the kids in the crowd ooohed and aaahed, "That's the X-Man and he's here to pick up Doug".
I hope that Doug institutes this program in Sacramento next season, or re-institutes it in Seattle.

But my point is that Seattle would be a dream job and an expansion coach is not "expected" to "win right away". Seattle is Doug's eventual destination and as a "teacher", working mostly with young players, that is his specialty.

So, if the tradeoff for being "suitable for hire" (after 2+ years as a Head Coach, thanks to Vivek) is that he is perceived as a "yes man", well, I think Doug can take that heat.

He may not be the right fit for this team, but he will be perfect for the new Sonics. Doug is playing the long game.

(some of you may want to google, "Chat GPT Predicts next 75 NBA Champions" from last year. Pay particular attention to when the Sonics are predicted to win one and when the Kings will get one - most of us will be dead when the Kings celebrate if GTP is correct).
I've read this AT LEAST 5 times already, and I'm still confused as to what the primary message is.
 
I've read this AT LEAST 5 times already, and I'm still confused as to what the primary message is.
I tried to read it and lost steam a few sentences in. I'm not a fan of DC's hiring, but it is what it is. I don't care for his rotations. He seems to do a lot of opposite of what he preaches. The season is a lost season, so might as well experiment and see what we have that works to build on next season. So, in my humble opinion, that includes trading away guys that aren't part of the plan going forward.
 
I've read this AT LEAST 5 times already, and I'm still confused as to what the primary message is.

the primary message is that doug (and vivek) are playing the long game - doug works cheap and vivek allows him to build the resume that lands him the seattle expansion job, which is perfectly suited for a "teacher" (who does, however, lack "strategic smarts")
 
the primary message is that doug (and vivek) are playing the long game - doug works cheap and vivek allows him to build the resume that lands him the seattle expansion job, which is perfectly suited for a "teacher" (who does, however, lack "strategic smarts")
I guarantee there is no discussion about a fictional team at this point.
 
But my point is that Seattle would be a dream job and an expansion coach is not "expected" to "win right away". Seattle is Doug's eventual destination and as a "teacher", working mostly with young players, that is his specialty.
the primary message is that doug (and vivek) are playing the long game - doug works cheap and vivek allows him to build the resume that lands him the seattle expansion job, which is perfectly suited for a "teacher" (who does, however, lack "strategic smarts")
And you are confident that Doug will be first in line for a head coaching gig up in Seattle if and when they get a team because of what exact reason???
 
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Wrapping up this post on this thread, let me give you a different way to look at Doug:
TIL that "wrapping up this post" means continuing on with random gibberish that, quite honestly, makes very little to no sense, and is EASILY more than twice as long as the random gibberish that came prior to this comment...Wild stuff!!!
 
You seem to be obsessed with negativity (3 straight posts worth).
,
You criticize my words, "wrapping up this post..." without pointing out WHAT was "gibberish"
(and don't just say "all of it")

You don't appear to agree that expansion is coming (very soon) or that Seattle will get a team.

OK, let's agree to disagree on that and see who is right.

I say expansion is coming within the next two seasons (26-27, 27-28), that Seattle will be an expansion city and that Doug will be the first head coach of the Seattle Sonics.

You disagree, so, let's see who is correct. I'll get back to you when it happens - in the meantime, enjoy your day.
 
You criticize my words, "wrapping up this post..." without pointing out WHAT was "gibberish"
(and don't just say "all of it")
The basis on which your entire post lives on that Seattle is guaranteed to get a team in the near future and that Doug Christie is guaranteed to get the head coaching job.

You don't appear to agree that expansion is coming (very soon) or that Seattle will get a team.
I never said that.
I agree that expansion is coming soon.
I agree that Seattle is pretty much guaranteed to be one of the teams (barring some unforeseen circumstances).
I don't agree that Doug Christie is guaranteed to be their first head coach.

Also, and this is just a bit of advice for you as you become more and more acclimated on this forum. If you're going to make such a claim like Doug is playing the long game to eventually become the head coach up in Seattle, back your claim up with proof. Don't just throw random stuff out there for the sake of throwing random stuff out there. Because, I will guarantee you one thing, and that is the fact that you will be called out on those claims, and you will be asked to prove your point. If not by others, then definitely by me.
 
well, almost everyone has agreed (for years) that the next two expansion teams will be in seattle and las vegas - sure "everybody" could be wrong, but i don't think so.

There has been a lot of talk about "realignment" (when expansion comes) because adding two teams to the west means at least one team must be shifted to the east. i'm surprised that you are just hearing about this.

Now this may seem odd, but...

Last year, chat gpt was used (probably a publicity stunt to draw attention TO chat gpt) to predict the next 75 nba champions.

This is "odd" because i am the LEAST "techno" person in the world.

However, i do know that AI operates on whatever information is fed into it (hence the many lawsuits on how they acquire "content")

In this simulation, OKC was favored to win 4 titles in the next 10 years (and then it gets weird)

That makes sense - you feed into chat gpt the number of #1 picks the Thunder have stockpiled and you would expect something like a dynasty.

But what surprised me was that the Seattle Sonics (who don't exist yet) were picked to win it all in (i think) 2033 (which was nine years from the experiment, 8 years from now).

the fastest any expansion team has won a championship was the Trailblazers in their 7th year and that was a fluke (the ABA folded and the dispersal draft of "extra" ABA players yielded the Blazers Maurice Lucas - to pair with Bill Walton).

The Blazers also got Moses Malone (because a lot of teams "passed", fearing lawsuits from former ABA team owners whose teams did NOT get added to the NBA) but traded him to Buffalo for two #1 picks (Buffalo then traded Malone to Houston for two "better" #1 picks)

No other expansion team has won a championship in under ten years. So, when chat gpt predicted that Seattle would win in nine years (and that was from 2024 - by the time they HAVE a team, they will be challenging Portland's record IF chat gpt is correct), I took notice.

As I said, I am non-techno, so I don't have an opinion as to whether chat gpt is correct or not, but they must have been fed SOME info that made them make such a risky pick (why not just stick with the Warriors, Lakers, Knicks or Celtics?). I'm wondering if the NBA is thinking of allowing teams to "protect" less players, maybe as few as "six" (i believe it was eight or nine who could be protected when Miami and Charlotte came in)

So, although I know nothing about the reliability of chat gpt (just like i have no idea if cryptocurrency in "real" or "a scam"), i DO believe it is a more reliable tool than a poster on a board who says, "How can you promise something that doesn't exist?"
 
So, although I know nothing about the reliability of chat gpt (just like i have no idea if cryptocurrency in "real" or "a scam"), i DO believe it is a more reliable tool than a poster on a board who says, "How can you promise something that doesn't exist?"
This is...unfortunate.
 
The basis on which your entire post lives on that Seattle is guaranteed to get a team in the near future and that Doug Christie is guaranteed to get the head coaching job.


I never said that.
I agree that expansion is coming soon.
I agree that Seattle is pretty much guaranteed to be one of the teams (barring some unforeseen circumstances).
I don't agree that Doug Christie is guaranteed to be their first head coach.

Also, and this is just a bit of advice for you as you become more and more acclimated on this forum. If you're going to make such a claim like Doug is playing the long game to eventually become the head coach up in Seattle, back your claim up with proof. Don't just throw random stuff out there for the sake of throwing random stuff out there. Because, I will guarantee you one thing, and that is the fact that you will be called out on those claims, and you will be asked to prove your point. If not by others, then definitely by me.

My earlier post this morning was in response, not to you, but to the post before yours.

But to reply to you:

1) i I did not "guarantee" that Doug would get that coaching job - he could turn things around and get signed long term (for a substantive salary increase) and be the Kings coach for the next decade, but I don't think THAT will happen (and it doesn't seem like others think he will either, but please, speak up if you think I am wrong in that assumption).

2) Although I don't have "proof", I made a good case (based on his youthful interaction with X-Man and the Supersonics) that he probably would desire to return home to coach his home town team - assuming that the Kings decide he's not right in Sacramento). Of course, I can't PROVE that, but neither can you prove otherwise.

Thanks for your advice on posting, but I'm not afraid of being called out when someone differs with my "opinion" (which can't be "proven").
 
1) i I did not "guarantee" that Doug would get that coaching job - he could turn things around and get signed long term (for a substantive salary increase) and be the Kings coach for the next decade, but I don't think THAT will happen (and it doesn't seem like others think he will either, but please, speak up if you think I am wrong in that assumption).

The comment below makes it sound like you're pretty much guaranteeing that Doug would get the coaching job...

Seattle is Doug's eventual destination and as a "teacher", working mostly with young players, that is his specialty.

Maybe that was not your intention at the end of the day, but your choice of words tells me otherwise...:):):)
 
2) Although I don't have "proof", I made a good case (based on his youthful interaction with X-Man and the Supersonics) that he probably would desire to return home to coach his home town team - assuming that the Kings decide he's not right in Sacramento). Of course, I can't PROVE that, but neither can you prove otherwise.
My point here is that...if you're gonna go around making claims such as the one you made, you're going to be asked to provide proof to back it up. Basing something on a "youthful interaction" ain't gonna cut it.
 
We disagree.

I believe that "youthful interactions" play a large part in determining what kind of people teens will turn out to be.

Sometimes in good ways, sometimes not.

I had a kid on a team i coached who lived in the projects near Fisherman's Wharf.

Really a good kid, but not quite a good enough player to get a scholarship.

As he got older, I'd see him at youth games, always carrying his gym bag.

When he was 19 (i hadn't seen him for a few years), he was arrested (with another kid, who i believe was the instigator) for trying to hold up someone coming out of a marijuana dispensary - things went bad and the other kid fired the gun that killed the guy they were trying to hold up.

I went to his elementary school and sought out "Mr. Wingfield", (the playground director, who was one of the most inspiring people i have ever met) and told him the kid was now doing life in prison for murder (he refused to claim, "i didn't do it - my buddy did").

Mr. Wingfield knew his dad (parents were split up) and said he would contact him and do whatever could be done.

This was a good kid who had a very bad "youthful interaction" - which changed the course of his life.

I certainly never saw that coming.

I believe that Doug's interaction with the Supersonics leaves a lasting feeling in his heart of good feelings for his home town and his home team.

Soon, his hometown is going to get an NBA team and need a coach - I think that would be Doug's "dream job"

But I can't "prove" that.

I did however, edit my previous post changing "is" to "could be".

BTW, i notice that the one thread i started ("Who Should the Kings Target at the Trade Deadline") has been lost. I named a few players we should be looking at and it was NOT an overall "NBA Trade Deadline" thread, but was specifically ONLY about who the Kings should consider acquiring, so, i'm not sure where it has gone or why.
 
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