Finley chooses Spurs over Heat, Suns

Nikos said:
In game 5 Horry missed about 3 point black layups in the first half that pretty much fueled a Detroit run. The Spurs had a nice double digit lead and all the momentum up until those uncharacteristic Horry misses. I remember thinking how poorly Horry was playing and how he almost single handedly let Detroit back in the game.

Duncan, Ginobili, Parker were all doing well. In the second half Billups pretty much was the only good offensive player, its not like Detroit was putting on a clinic and Horry was making all the stops on D and scoring every single basket without being setup by anybody. Sure Horry was the difference in the 4th, a HUGE difference. But who knows, if Duncan makes that tip at the end of the 4th and a couple FTs they could have won the game without needing Horry's heroics (although they started at the beggining of the 4th). The point is Horry had a terrible first half, Duncan's FTs were shaky, but its not like Detroit was manhandling them across the board and started missing shots by fluke. SA is a strong defensive team, and has had offensive lapses before with Duncan missing strings of FTs. But sometimes you need clutch shooters like Horry to finish games. Duncan and Ginobili were setting up Horry while he was warming up for the end of the 4th.

Of course the Spurs were not dominant in Game 5 or the finals in general. Doesn't mean their title should be simple reduced to "Oh Horry is the only reason they won the title, and because they didn't dominate in the finals they aren't a good team that can win titles in the future...etc..."



missed layups and turnovers are apart of the game my friend. everything you said can be reversed with a ton of what if's. everything. everyone talks about that lucky fisher shot in 2004, but what about that lucky duncan shot? the spurs wouldn't of even gotten in the position to win let alone take the lead if duncan missed that rainbow falling shot. it would've been different if horry's shot was challenged. made shots are apart of the game; pison fans could've lived with that much better, but the fact that it was a dumb broken down play and it was robert horry (vacationing around the 3-point line as usual) made that game 5 victory a fortunate one. the spurs were way too fortunate last year; as the lakers of 2002.
 
Watch out, tyrant. Your Spurs-hatred is showing ALL over the place.

You can refuse to acknowledge the obvious as long as you like, but it's not going to change the truth. As much as you apparently want to deny it, the Spurs are the reigning NBA champs and if you ask Detroit I strongly doubt if any of them would attribute it to luck.
 
SpursFan said:
I'm sure that would have been your exact analyzes had Van Exel and Finley opted to sign with the Kings, right? You'd have said:

"Hey we signed them, that cool, it doesn't improve any bit though. Fin is old and nowhere near good enough to be any factor for us. Nick, please, that guys knees are beyond bad. Why the hell did we sign them in the first place?"

Right?

Instead you're dissing them, their talent, the improvement they give the Spurs, the depth they give us.

But hey, you're too busy blushing over SAR and his knees of steel.

I see positive points in both Finley and Nick. In fact, I have been a fan of both of them for a long time. I was just saying that the Spurs don't scare me anymore or less than before. Nick has said he has knee problems, its not a secret. After a game last season, while considering retirement, he said he has a problem just getting out of bed in the morning. As far as I know, Shareef has said that he has NEVER had problems with his knees following that procedure done in high school, could there be problems? Theres always a possibility.

And as far as if these guys landed on the Kings. Well, as Captain Bill alluded to, there would have been anarchy. Their names were brought up before and if I remember correctly, the overall consensus on Fin was not good. In fact what you wrote sounds just like our very own Bricklayer :D
 
SpursFan said:
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Have to agree the Spurs with Finley and Van Ex in addition to their current championship team. I think its pretty safe to say (yes anything can happen) but if they stay healthy they are for sure the front runners this year no question about that.

Don't want to hear no nonsense about giving up a big lead. A lot of the NBA is about swings/runs during games and how teams handle them. Obviuosly the Spurs did a nice job last year. Lets not take credit away from a team that won. They desirved it fair and square!
 
SoupIsGood said:
Ha. Ha. :rolleyes:


*coughatleastweplaydcough*
At least you played what?

And if I'd posted that the Kings were better then the Pacers, that might hurt my feelings... keep practicing, though...
 
SoupIsGood said:

without the "brawl", i think that the pacers wouldve destroyed all competition last year on their way to the championship. so i think it should say, "pacers 05-06: 2 sounds sweeter than 1"
 
tyrant said:
missed layups and turnovers are apart of the game my friend. everything you said can be reversed with a ton of what if's. everything. everyone talks about that lucky fisher shot in 2004, but what about that lucky duncan shot? the spurs wouldn't of even gotten in the position to win let alone take the lead if duncan missed that rainbow falling shot. it would've been different if horry's shot was challenged. made shots are apart of the game; pison fans could've lived with that much better, but the fact that it was a dumb broken down play and it was robert horry (vacationing around the 3-point line as usual) made that game 5 victory a fortunate one. the spurs were way too fortunate last year; as the lakers of 2002.

Exactly, and if Horry gave the Spurs anything in the 2004 Laker series they might have won as well. This lucky stuff and one single role player saving an entire teams season's A$$ works for tons of teams over the course of the years, NOT just for the Spurs of 0405. Even the Lakers had some lucky breaks in 2 of their title runs (Blazers semi-collapse, with Brian Shaw making huge 3's to get them back in the game -- and the Horry 3 against Sacto in Game 4). I am just saying, the Spurs were not fluke champions, there is a reason they had an extremely high point differential when healthy, and even despite having Duncan out multiple games managed to win 59. They were good on both ends this season and had multi-year experience with their core. And that same core will keep them competetive for the next few years.
 
I still don't see why everyone is comparing the signing of NVE and Findog to the Lakers signing Malone and Payton. The only thing similar is all four are former All-Stars.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Malone and Payton went to the Lakers as starters, getting big minutes, playing in an offense they were not used to (triangle), and the Lakers bench was weak as ****. Name anyone besides the 4 starters and Fisher that was even on that team and did anything worth wild.

The Spurs are adding these guys as bench players, as backups, as players who will come off the bench and give us instant offense.

Not to mention, this is a Gregg Popovich runned team, if the Spurs aren't committing to defense in the first 30 seconds of the game, he'll call a timeout and get on their asses, it's happened before.

Pop is a drill sargent. He'll get the best out of you, and if he can't, you're not playin', you're traded, or you're cut.
 
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Agree with you SpurfsFan. Nick and Mike will play their roles on this Spurs team and won't make a big fuss about minutes. They're coattailing off of Tim Duncan and they know it. With a no-nonsense coach who preaches defense the Spurs are just plain scary. I don't know why we shouldn't just fast forward one season actually and just give the Spurs the trophy. :)
 
ONEZERO said:
without the "brawl", i think that the pacers wouldve destroyed all competition last year on their way to the championship. so i think it should say, "pacers 05-06: 2 sounds sweeter than 1"

even with a full team, i don't think they would have beaten the pistons. they didn't the year before with a full team. ron had a mini meltdown with that flagrant foul late in the game that won the pistons the EC.

the pacers are tough, no doubt about it, but i don't see them winning the east next year unless shaq gets hurt. the heat are way stacked.
 
Evenstar said:
even with a full team, i don't think they would have beaten the pistons. they didn't the year before with a full team. ron had a mini meltdown with that flagrant foul late in the game that won the pistons the EC.

the pacers are tough, no doubt about it, but i don't see them winning the east next year unless shaq gets hurt. the heat are way stacked.

We didn't even have a full team that year. Anthony Johnson was our PG for most of the series, and Jermaine twisted his knee halfway through.
 
i hate the spurs..... they are like the new age lakers.... WACK!
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
:: turns avatars back on ::

That's a joke, right? Starting center?

:: turns avatars back off ::

:rolleyes:

No one said anything about starting.

He'll be starting soon enough, though.
 
as i said a long time ago there's nothing wrong with the signings of these 2 players. it is a great team on paper, but the spurs are still beatable.
 
or it could all be even better if they all accidentally get injured during the first game of the season since they are so old. lol. jk, we don't need them to get injured, we can beat em either way.
 
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