Tetsujin
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The ultimate horror of this lotto is that the same teams tanking this season are still going to be stuck tanking next year haha
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Joshyjosh31
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Well next years draft is stacked so there’s that they better pray another team doesn’t sacrifice there star to LA
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
The only hope now is that the NBA going back to NBC does actually put some of that grind back in. Then Perry won't be so far off because only physicality and defense can even the playing field.
NewArena
All-Star
Yea i don’t think they were ever all that enamored with him to begin with
NewArena
All-Star
Is everyone so sure Cooper is just going to be this instant star? Hope they aren’t putting too much pressure on this kid lol
est.1999
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I see only one way of saving the league:
Keep the length of the season the same(October to April).
Reduce the games from 82 to 60.
No more back to backs.
Reduce playoff teams from 16 to 14. Seeds 1 & 2 in each conference each get a bye round. The 1st round is best of 3. This also means getting rid of the stupid play in. We already had more than 50% of teams make the playoffs. Now it’s basically 60%. Absolutely ridiculous.
Make divisions MATTER.
Let defense thrive. Stop incentivizing pace and points. Allow for a more 1/2 court set.
This will undoubtedly make every game matter almost as much as every football game matters. Competition will naturally be born from this. The ratings per game will rise as fans will be more inclined to want to watch more games.
I don’t know, this is just my opinion, what do yall think?
sactowndog
All-Star
Ditto. Can't even imagine how bad next season will be. Kings refusing to blow it up when they have no paths to be a top 6 team.
all clearly better
OKC (SGA/Chet), +15 Traore 24 Gonzalez
Dallas (Davis/Kyrie), +1 Flagg
Houston (Thompson/Sengun), +10 Jaku..
Denver (Jokic/Murray),
Minnesota (Ant/Randle) +17 Wolf
Memphis (Ja/JJJ)
How fast in the group above
San An (Wemby/Fox)+2 Harper 14 Bryant
Portland (Sharpe/Scoot) +11 Queen
Better but aging sign free agents
Lakers (Luka/James),
Golden State (Curry/Butler)
Clippers (Leonard/Harden) + 30
Wanna be teams
Sacramento (Sabonis/LaVine)
New Orleans (Zion/Murphy) +7 Maulauch
Pheonix (Durant/Booker) +29
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Joshyjosh31
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Joshyjosh31
Starter
What’s reducing games gonna do these idiots will still load manage and sit games
NewArena
All-Star
There’s definitely no way i can see any good justification for tanking. It’s more pointless than ever to practice that now
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Tanking for number 1 never worked anyway, you just usually don't want to be outside of the top 5 year after year after year. Monte had the right idea of taking the dropper though if you are but that doesn't always happen.
Joshyjosh31
Starter
It’s funny till it happens
lol, y'all got it.
ockingsfan
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The sad part of all of this, is IF the Kings tanked that last game against Phoenix like I was rooting for, the Kings would have been tied with Dallas and may have held the winning lotto ticket for Flagg instead of Dallas.
Honestly, the NBA is so rigged!
Honestly, the NBA is so rigged!
Compete for a title right now??? LOL Irving is missing most of next season, Klay is close to washed, Flagg is a rookie, and AD will miss at least 20 games. In the West, that team is hoping to stay in the top 6.
I have been saying for several months that a DDR for PJ Washington trade makes sense for both teams. Even moreso now. PJ is stuck on their bench with Gafford, and DDR gives them an offensive star who can help take pressure off a lineup missing Kyrie, going through Flagg rookie growing pains, and dealing with a washed Klay...
Meanwhile, Domas-PJ-Keegan is actually a nice frontcourt, with great complimentary defense and shooting to go around Domas...
This is exactly why you can't reliably tank. The odds are against "tanking for the top pick" and some horrible teams got pushed aside for a possible franchise changing player by a team that was in the play in.
I'm not going to disagree. I hate tanking. I severely dislike Dallas, but I hate tanking.
There's some truth to this. With the lottery odds the way they are you can't reliably tank for a top pick for that "franchise" player. The odds are too flat to do that. The worst team in the league expects to pick around 3-4, if I remember correctly (and I'm too lazy to look it up again for the exact number). You might get a good player (or draft a bust), but if you are aiming for a Cooper Flagg, you can't feel good about even being within several picks of #1.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Nobody likes tanking. There comes a point in time when taking your medicine and realizing that a rebuild is the way to improve for the future. Part of that process is that you generally acquire a higher pick than you otherwise would have, if fighting for an 8-10 seed
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
And if you have young talent, those minutes are much more valuable to them in the interim. Building a team is about all 3 areas of drafting, development, and cap control. The Kings bypassed steps every year when it came to the latter two and ended up nowhere for nearly 20 years. The Kings wasted the rookie contracts of Cuz and Fox. It's not a debate, it's much more difficult to build a team once you are paying even younger players rookie max/max money. The Kings combined corner cutting with making their young assets look about as bad as possible because "winning".
The only true mistake Perry can make now is trying to build a big 3 around LaVine and Domas by trading any rebuild assets without knowing what his current roster actually is. Just like the first year of the Beam team, that deadline teams in the Kings direct vicinity jumped. Left behind again tonight perhaps. Literally every single thing right now says no including the results of the lottery. At this point hopefully Perry isn't lying when he says they want to build a defensive team because that's about the only thing you can do to matter unless you have a generational talent or two at the top of your roster and right now the Kings certainly don't. They have some decent youngish defenders though. Run it back? OK, then you have like 2-3 prove it months. That's the only sensible thing. Teams like the Suns, Kings, Grizzlies, etc. will probably be drawing straws to see who gets the others leftovers. Don't play that game Perry. Not unless it's for free.
I don't think anyone disagrees with this. Unfortunately, the guy in charge, will not let it happen.
Jdbraver137
Bench
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I don't necessarily think that a rebuild = tanking. I think that is one of the disconnects here. I'm not necessarily against trading players for good young talent that can compete. I am against tanking. And I think the way the current odds are stacked it helps dissuade teams from doing it to a certain extent.
Joshyjosh31
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We also decided to get the spurs pick next year instead of this year when everyone knew this would be the worst they’ll ever be ****ing comical
Lots of fans not only can't tell the difference between rebuilding and tanking, they can't even tell the difference between regular degular losing and tanking.
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