DRAFT EVE TRADE MADNESS: Nets trade Mikal Bridges to the Knicks!!
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Do the Knicks like not want to ever partake in draft day festivities ever again???
I mean, I kinda see why they did it, but...
I don't think even Vlade would've been so dumb as to give up FIVE first round picks.
Oh yeah, I forgot, Vlade drafted the "other guy", and some random Greek dude...
I mean, I kinda see why they did it, but...
I don't think even Vlade would've been so dumb as to give up FIVE first round picks.
Oh yeah, I forgot, Vlade drafted the "other guy", and some random Greek dude...
Well, in that deal the Kings would know if Da Silva is at 13 since they'll have to make the pick regardless but nope, I wouldn't at this point unless all other better deals fell through. It's not a terrible deal but Johnson isn't really an upgrade to Barnes at this point and doesn't bring much of anything the Kings need. I can see Kuzma over him since Kuzma would help the downturn in transition play and bring athletic ability.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I have Cam Johnson better than Barnes when it comes to most metrics. I think he's quite a bit better and Barnes is most likely only to get worse from his slightly below average play last year. The kicker would be that Keegan would have to slide to the 4 if they started Cam but in this scenario, Barnes is still on the roster so Cam could come off the bench and play Monk type minutes with Barnes' minutes dropping unless he has to guard a particular matchup.
To me, transition play is one of the least important parts of the game. Nearly every player in the NBA is good in transition other than Buddy Hield. The vast majority of the game is played in the half court so I'm looking for guys that are above average in the half court and if their transition game is average, that's fine because there aren't many transition opportunities and nearly every player takes advantage of them at a very high percentage when they're available.
To me, transition play is one of the least important parts of the game. Nearly every player in the NBA is good in transition other than Buddy Hield. The vast majority of the game is played in the half court so I'm looking for guys that are above average in the half court and if their transition game is average, that's fine because there aren't many transition opportunities and nearly every player takes advantage of them at a very high percentage when they're available.
I absolutely love the player, but that’s an insane amount of draft assets to surrender for a player that’s not an elite superstar. He’s a really, really good 2-way player that plays every single game, every single season. But he’s not KD, Steph, #77, Jokic, Kawhi, or Embiid in their primes.
I’ve been following the NBA for a long, long time now. Until this decade, I really don’t recall franchises surrendering 3-5 FRP’s so consistently as seemingly happens today. Talk about “going all in”.
Well, you can call me a hater if you want, but considering that I’m not a Knicks fan I’ll find it hilarious to see this move fail somehow and that franchise have no draft path forward for the next decade. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Phoenix’ recent all-in flame out in the first round this past season and am still hopeful the wheels fall off completely sometime soon.
I root for one team and one team only. The rest can go kick rocks.
As much as I really love the player, I’m glad it wasn’t the KINGS that was able to trade all that capital. Now, if Vivek, D'Alessandro, or Vlade were still making GM draft decisions for the franchise — I’d almost not care about all those draft picks. But with a competent GM in charge, that’s way too much.
I’ve been following the NBA for a long, long time now. Until this decade, I really don’t recall franchises surrendering 3-5 FRP’s so consistently as seemingly happens today. Talk about “going all in”.
Well, you can call me a hater if you want, but considering that I’m not a Knicks fan I’ll find it hilarious to see this move fail somehow and that franchise have no draft path forward for the next decade. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Phoenix’ recent all-in flame out in the first round this past season and am still hopeful the wheels fall off completely sometime soon.
I root for one team and one team only. The rest can go kick rocks.
As much as I really love the player, I’m glad it wasn’t the KINGS that was able to trade all that capital. Now, if Vivek, D'Alessandro, or Vlade were still making GM draft decisions for the franchise — I’d almost not care about all those draft picks. But with a competent GM in charge, that’s way too much.
I absolutely love the player, but that’s an insane amount of draft assets to surrender for a player that’s not an elite superstar. He’s a really, really good 2-way player that plays every single game, every single season. But he’s not KD, Steph, #77, Jokic, Kawhi, or Embiid in their primes.
I’ve been following the NBA for a long, long time now. Until this decade, I really don’t recall franchises surrendering 3-5 FRP’s so consistently as seemingly happens today. Talk about “going all in”.
Well, you can call me a hater if you want, but considering that I’m not a Knicks fan I’ll find it hilarious to see this move fail somehow and that franchise have no draft path forward for the next decade. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Phoenix’ recent all-in flame out in the first round this past season and am still hopeful the wheels fall off completely sometime soon.
I root for one team and one team only. The rest can go kick rocks.
As much as I really love the player, I’m glad it wasn’t the KINGS that was able to trade all that capital. Now, if Vivek, D'Alessandro, or Vlade were still making GM draft decisions for the franchise — I’d almost not care about all those draft picks. But with a competent GM in charge, that’s way too much.
I’ve been following the NBA for a long, long time now. Until this decade, I really don’t recall franchises surrendering 3-5 FRP’s so consistently as seemingly happens today. Talk about “going all in”.
Well, you can call me a hater if you want, but considering that I’m not a Knicks fan I’ll find it hilarious to see this move fail somehow and that franchise have no draft path forward for the next decade. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Phoenix’ recent all-in flame out in the first round this past season and am still hopeful the wheels fall off completely sometime soon.
I root for one team and one team only. The rest can go kick rocks.
As much as I really love the player, I’m glad it wasn’t the KINGS that was able to trade all that capital. Now, if Vivek, D'Alessandro, or Vlade were still making GM draft decisions for the franchise — I’d almost not care about all those draft picks. But with a competent GM in charge, that’s way too much.
While I don't think Bridges is good enough to warrant the return it makes sense since he's in his prime/has elite skills and it's the East if that squad was in the West i don't see them as a threat but in the East yeah you have to go for it you would have to be crazy not to go for it in the East (Miami should have gone for it a long time ago with Butler needing help).
That's just not true. How the hell do you think Mikal Bridges was first acquired? Through a draft pick you say isn't worth gold. How about Jokić? Giannis??? Kobe??? And every player that's ever played (that wasn't undrafted)???
While I agree with you that drafting toward the end of round 1 doesn't have as high odds of success, there are still only two rounds and lots of good even great players are taken outside the lottery and into the 2nd round.
Further, building through the draft is much, much less costly on the salary cap and it comes with a decent sized window of opportunity to add via free agency when rookie contracts are still in play.
For teams like the Suns and now NY Knicks, if something unexpected occurs to one or more of their players -- they have little opportunity to recover. For a long time at that. Free agency is too expensive to rebuild, unless you are lucky and can get 2-3 players to take less to play together (e.g., Miami 2010).
And, again, we aren't talking KD or Kawhi Leonard in their primes here. Mikal Bridges isn't a player that should be commanding 5 FRP's + a 1st round swap. That's ludicrous. It's as if the GM's running these teams nowadays graduated from the fantasy ranks.
While I agree with you that drafting toward the end of round 1 doesn't have as high odds of success, there are still only two rounds and lots of good even great players are taken outside the lottery and into the 2nd round.
Further, building through the draft is much, much less costly on the salary cap and it comes with a decent sized window of opportunity to add via free agency when rookie contracts are still in play.
For teams like the Suns and now NY Knicks, if something unexpected occurs to one or more of their players -- they have little opportunity to recover. For a long time at that. Free agency is too expensive to rebuild, unless you are lucky and can get 2-3 players to take less to play together (e.g., Miami 2010).
And, again, we aren't talking KD or Kawhi Leonard in their primes here. Mikal Bridges isn't a player that should be commanding 5 FRP's + a 1st round swap. That's ludicrous. It's as if the GM's running these teams nowadays graduated from the fantasy ranks.
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