DeMarcus Boogie Cousins and YOUR Sacramento Kings

#8
Yes!

Can we please get more of Cousins and Dalembert on the court at the same time?!
You know and it's funny, in my early thinking the Hornets were going to be a team for which that combination was going to be a challenge. You've got West, one of the quickest PFs in the league and a good shooter away from the hoop, and then Okafor, who while limited in his offensive skill set is very agile. DMC and Dally worked well against them, for the most part, and it worked well. This is a VERY good sign. And we all saw that combo kill the Lakers supposedly biggest and best frontcourt in the league last night. This bodes very well for our future. The fact that not only can we survive the challenges defensively against teams with quicker PFs (and Cs), but dominate them, and the rest of their team, in streches. And then STILL kill them offensively with Cousins what I would now say is phenomenal court vision and passing, and incredible low post skills, while Dalembert has learned to play well on the offensive end as well.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#9
You know and it's funny, in my early thinking the Hornets were going to be a team for which that combination was going to be a challenge. You've got West, one of the quickest PFs in the league and a good shooter away from the hoop, and then Okafor, who while limited in his offensive skill set is very agile. DMC and Dally worked well against them, for the most part, and it worked well. This is a VERY good sign. And we all saw that combo kill the Lakers supposedly biggest and best frontcourt in the league last night. This bodes very well for our future. The fact that not only can we survive the challenges defensively against teams with quicker PFs (and Cs), but dominate them, and the rest of their team, in streches. And then STILL kill them offensively with Cousins what I would now say is phenomenal court vision and passing, and incredible low post skills, while Dalembert has learned to play well on the offensive end as well.
My thoughts exactly. I'm not sure where Sammy's offensive game came from all of a sudden but I like it.
 
#11
This season, I've definitely felt that Cousins will be more valuable to the future of this team than Evans, assuming he keeps his head on straight.
 
#12
Hey!

Cousins and Dalembert are centers, PERIOD!

Both should be exclusively C and shouldn't play PF. They shoul not play at the same time. They would get beat by quicker PFs because they are slow and they would be drawn away from the paint rendering them ineffective in defense.

Hmmm. I guess I haven't heard this reasoning from "the very knowledgeables" for a quite a while now. Where are they? Oooops. I think I just saw one above. :p
 
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Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#13
Hey!

Cousins and Dalembert are centers, PERIOD!

Both should be exclusively C and shouldn't play PF. They shoul not play at the same time. They would get beat by quicker PFs because they are slow and they would be drawn away from the paint rendering them ineffective in defense.

Hmmm. I guess I haven't heard this reasoning from "the very knowledgeables" for a quite a while now. Where are they? Oooops. I think I just saw one above. :p


Hey I'll eat crow (for the time being) as I was one of the people saying that.

Sammy D has shown amazing lateral quickness at times and, yes, has shown the ability to pester some of the elite 4s in the league.
 
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#15
This season, I've definitely felt that Cousins will be more valuable to the future of this team than Evans, assuming he keeps his head on straight.
I would rate Cousins' basketball intelligence above that of Evans so he probably learns much faster. At the same time, Cousins has the whole world telling him to always listen to his coach, while Evans was sort of just allowed to play a lot of 1 on 1 in his rookie season. As a result, Tyreke still has spurts where he gets tunnel vision and over dribbles the ball. In that sense Cousins has had the benefit of having more structure in place, which would accelerate his learning significantly. The two of them are starting to play very well together, although it's sort of been inverted with Evans setting up Cousins for outside shots and Cousins setting up Evans for layups when he cuts, but I suppose that's how the Kings have traditionally played.
 
#16
Do you all think a shooter like Martin (Kevin) would have helped this team or do you think it would have been counter productive to Cousins if Martin were here?

Just curious.. Still like Martin as a player. He was my fav King for a few years.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#17
Do you all think a shooter like Martin (Kevin) would have helped this team or do you think it would have been counter productive to Cousins if Martin were here?

Just curious.. Still like Martin as a player. He was my fav King for a few years.
He would possibly have helped offensively, defensively though, he'd probably remove DeMarcus from the game a few minutes earlier due to his guy zooming past him into the paint.
 
#19
He would possibly have helped offensively, defensively though, he'd probably remove DeMarcus from the game a few minutes earlier due to his guy zooming past him into the paint.
This. We'd benefit offensively from Martin's 3 point shooting and backdoor cutting, which is basically what we ran a lot of with Brad. Martin being here would definitely be better for Cousins, but then Tyreke would be very very underused. Most importantly, we'd be running the offense largely through Cousins to create for Kevin, and considering his lack of rebounding and substandard defense he wouldn't be worth the money we'd have to pay. Martin was one of my favourite players as well, but going forward with Tyreke and Cousins (since I'm assuming we'd still have the two of them together with Martin, but wouldn't have Landry) I think it would be a smarter move to get a role-playing veteran shooter who plays good D.

I'm really really hoping that Donte steps up his game and becomes more consistent offensively. It would help the team a lot.
 
#20
He would possibly have helped offensively, defensively though, he'd probably remove DeMarcus from the game a few minutes earlier due to his guy zooming past him into the paint.
Really? Like Beno and Evans are any better. In fact, Evans is a whole lot worse getting through a pick than Martin.
 
#22
I still kinda wish we gave the Evans/Martin thing a little more time, given Martin accepted a new roll. His slashing and shooting would be nice at times.
 

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#23
Kevin Martin? Really?





Can we enjoy what we have now? Moving Martin may have helped us to land Cousins.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#24
Do you all think a shooter like Martin (Kevin) would have helped this team or do you think it would have been counter productive to Cousins if Martin were here?

Just curious.. Still like Martin as a player. He was my fav King for a few years.
I think Martin and Cousins would fit together just fine. Martin was good at moving without the ball, and thats one area where this team lacks at times. I could see Cousins hitting Martin on backdoor cuts several times a game, or kicking it out to him for a 3 pointer when he's doubled.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#25
I think Martin and Cousins would fit together just fine. Martin was good at moving without the ball, and thats one area where this team lacks at times. I could see Cousins hitting Martin on backdoor cuts several times a game, or kicking it out to him for a 3 pointer when he's doubled.
Of course, Kevin had the benefit of learning how to do so from Doug Christie and Peja move without the ball his first season in the league
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
#27
I think Reke is getting a bit better moving without the ball.

Now all he needs to do is work on his "dribble the shotclock to nothing then turn the ball over" playstyle in the 4th and we have something!

I think Reke is going to have a big 3rd season, especially if he gets his foot fixed.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#28
I think Reke is getting a bit better moving without the ball.

Now all he needs to do is work on his "dribble the shotclock to nothing then turn the ball over" playstyle in the 4th and we have something!

I think Reke is going to have a big 3rd season, especially if he gets his foot fixed.
This I agree with. After a horrendous beginning of the season, he's rounded back into form (kind of like Rose last season).
 
#29
This I agree with. After a horrendous beginning of the season, he's rounded back into form (kind of like Rose last season).
I'll have to look back at Rose's numbers during the early part of last season, but it'd be great to see Tyreke make the kind of leap that Rose has made this season. It would also be great if he could leap like Rose during all of his seasons.
 
#30
I have only one question. WTF were the teams who picked before the Kings looking at when they drafted other players? Cousins is CLEARLY the best player out of that draft! He is only a rookie, yet he commands a double team every night. He passes out of the double team with skill, getting many assists and partial assists. He can power up thru anyone in the post even though he does not possess dominating vertical leaping ability. He is exceedingly agile and quick for a man nearly 7 feet tall. His wingspan makes him difficult to score over and as he learns to play better defense he will become a very good defensive stopper. He has all the tools to become a dominant center for the next 10 years. So again, I ask, WTF were the teams selecting before the Kings looking at? #1 Washington - John Wall: Decent player, but plays on the wing and has only decent scoring ability. Is not a superstar however his quickness makes him a candidate to be very good. But Dominant? That is a major question mark.#2 76'ers - Evan Turner: Hasn't helped a woeful 76'er team to get any better. Another wing player with some scoring ability. Not likely to become dominant at his position. Just a nice outside scorer. #3 Nets - Derrick Favors: Has not shown skill or scoring ability to warrant a #3 selection. May become more skilled, but does not look like a player who will develop into a dominant player at his position. #4 Minnesota - Wesley Johnson: The Timberwolves organization is full of imbeciles. This is another stupid draft pick by the same team that took Rubio who will probably never play in Minnesota EVER. The GM for the Wolves is on the edge of forced retirement. The Wrath of Kahn is starting to get ugly.

And then the Kings select Demarcus Cousins at #5. Sure there were some maturity issues with a 20 year old player. But freekin LOOK at him! Nearly 7' tall, agile, fast, and knows how to score and set up his teammates to score. He is quickly learning NBA defense, the only thing holding him back right now is foul trouble. Ref's are giving him hell his rookie season, yet he keeps plugging along knowing it will get better next season. He has vaulted into 2nd place behind Griffin for ROY, even though that isnt very fair because Griffin is actually a 2nd year player no matter what the league says. If there were no Griffin on the ballot, Cousins would get serious consideration for the ROY. Who else would get consideration? Not a very strong crop in the 2010 draft. With a coupla free agent signings for next season and possibly a few trades, the Kings are beginning to look like a very strong core team with a lot of upside! They have their franchise center and a franchise wing player. They need another outside scoring threat and possibly a slashing 3 to balance the floor. All could come to fruition next season if there isnt a labor stoppage. Cousins is playing great and the attitude issues have proven to be minor at best! Cousins is a STEAL at #5 and the 4 teams ahead of the Kings are KICKING themselves in the HEAD for not drafting this kid! He isn't a bad person. He is an emotional 20 year old who wants to win! Isn't that what you want in a player? A player with a deep desire to win and to make those around him better? Wholly Molly how stupid do those 4 GM's ahead of Petrie look now? I say Go BOOGIE GO !! Go Kings !! The future is looking brighter and brighter. The opportunity to avenge the travesty of the game 5 debacle by Dick Bavetta is just around the corner. Justice WILL PREVAIL!
 
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