De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

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https://twitter.com/statuses/1887206980122714508

Aside from the times he did (which I will not count), Monte never did what I wanted him to!

Ironic. Fox is now playing with the same starting wing as the last several years.

 

[coolhandluke]

He's happy the Spurs got a great deal. Maybe he's patting himself on the back for leveraging the Spurs into keeping those picks.

The interesting thing is that Spurs did not even bother to ask their rookie to give #5 jersey to Fox. That's how much they valued him. Spurs did not want Fox. Fox wanted the Spurs. For a guy who longs to be wanted, this is going to be an interesting period.

 

[coolhandluke]

Some say DeMar is actually a PF, some say a SG, that probably makes him… a wing

When it's clutch time, which guy are the opponents putting on Deebo? That's his position.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

He's happy the Spurs got a great deal. Maybe he's patting himself on the back for leveraging the Spurs into keeping those picks.

Another reason I would’ve sent him anywhere but San Antonio

 

[Joshyjosh31]

I do not understand the raging love some of these online Twitter people have for De’Aaron Fox. Like, seriously. He’s a fringe all-star scoring guard who isn’t even a likable personality.

Have no idea they act like we lost an mob type player when the guy had made one all star and knows he’s not good enough to be Bateman

 

[Tetsujin]

Have no idea they act like we lost an mob type player when the guy had made one all star and knows he’s not good enough to be Bateman

The irony here is that Lavine has made more all-star appearances than Fox

 

[SLAB]

The irony here is that Lavine has made more all-star appearances than Fox

But he’s washed and injured and doesn’t play defense and old and on a bad contract or something.

 

[Sherds]

Another reason I would’ve sent him anywhere but San Antonio

Yeah, this pisses me off as well.

I just watched the interview on YT... Hes smirking and made a reference to "we didn't give up any key peices" and then the ATL pick ref... Prefer if we could've still got Zach and but also somehow shipped him to Siberia for a year and a half

We did the right thing by him and he's been high jacking the org since the off-season... Underhanded comments suggesting Malik leave, didn't welcome Deebo then a month into the season coming out and saying he wants to win just shows he was focused on only himself for a while now

 

[Jdbraver137]

Lavine is a good return for Fox imo.

 

[BosnianDiehard2.0]

How hilarious would it be if we immediately made the playoffs after Fox leaves? That would mean DeRozan and Lavine made the Playoffs as a King as many times as Fox did lol.

 

[Hoovtrain]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1887200521255329889

when your ex still won’t leave her husband and kids for you so you wake up covered in your own puke and angry.

who is that and what is he referencing?

 

[Hoovtrain]

If they can land Jonas, or a viable 2nd big Who can adequately spell sabonis, I’ll feel pretty good about 2 nd half of season

 

[BosnianDiehard2.0]

If they can land Jonas, or a viable 2nd big Who can adequately spell sabonis, I’ll feel pretty good about 2 nd half of season

Why not both? We got enough draft capital from San Antonio to address both needs.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Why not both? We got enough draft capital from San Antonio to address both needs.

both what? Backup Wing and big

 

[KingsFanSince85]

It's not readily apparent. He's coming off injury and surgery. Missed training camp. Missed preseason. Limited time with the G League team. Limited time with the big club. He's already had two head coaches despite the extreme brevity of his NBA career thus far. I'd suggest we wait until he's got more than a fraction of a season under his belt before we determine that he was or wasn't BPA.

C'mon, Padrino, you're asking for too much here.

Remember, this place is notorious for claiming "bust" after during the very first Summer League game.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

Best player available /= most able to contribute now. In fact, BPA is often the opposite of that. If you're drafting BPA, you're taking the guy you believe is going to have the greatest long-term impact throughout his career. If you're drafting for need, you worry about players who can contribute now and can shore up areas of deficiency. It sounds like you think the Kings should have drafted for need. I like Ware a lot. I think he's going to be an impact player. He might ultimately have been the best player available. But we don't know that yet.

Personally, I think you always draft BPA unless you're already contending for a title, and if doing so happens to fill a need or shore up an area of deficiency, then great. Monte thought Carter was BPA, and I happen to agree. If it turns out that Monte was wrong, well, eventually the Kings will hire a new GM who hopefully makes the right call. But it's all rolls of the dice, rarely is it clear cut, and often it's inexplicable why one guy pans out and another doesn't. It's easy enough to say who BPA was in hindsight, but we're not even close to making that judgment yet with this most recent draft class.

^^^ This should end this part of the conversation, but unfortunately it won't.

 

[Fantazija]

I'm not necessarily writing him off and hope he develops, but he wasn't the answer for a team looking to take the next step. We needed athletic size and someone to put next to Sabonis that can rim protect. Instead we drafted another guard (and one that needed surgery). I think that's partially what lead to Fox being out the door. The front office is tone deaf on these things. We've seen it time and time again.

I think is more than fair to say that Carter was not a smart pick based on a need and at the same time be more patient with evaluation of his progression considering the late start

 

[Tetsujin]

I think is more than fair to say that Carter was not a smart pick based on a need and at the same time be more patient with evaluation of his progression considering the late start

Drafting for need very nearly ever works out or have we all forgot the GM Vlade experience?

 

[King-Da-Yah]

It ain't Gay Love Cousins but i'll take it. Btw, whatever move we're working on, it sounds like the front office told everyone to stfu until it's actually complete this time. Sean Cunningham didn't wanna share a single detail lol he was super careful.

Music to my ears, I broke down and bought my first ticket of the season tonight. I'm surprising my son's travel ball coach so let's hope for another (good trade) surprise announced later tonight! Just don't trade IJ! LOL

 

[King-Da-Yah]

I think is more than fair to say that Carter was not a smart pick based on a need and at the same time be more patient with evaluation of his progression considering the late start

I cannot remember what I had for breakfast let alone draft night but I wanted McCain! Think of the (increased) excitement around these parts if we had him! Hindsight is 20/20 though.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Yeah, this pisses me off as well.

I just watched the interview on YT... Hes smirking and made a reference to "we didn't give up any key peices" and then the ATL pick ref... Prefer if we could've still got Zach and but also somehow shipped him to Siberia for a year and a half

We did the right thing by him and he's been high jacking the org since the off-season... Underhanded comments suggesting Malik leave, didn't welcome Deebo then a month into the season coming out and saying he wants to win just shows he was focused on only himself for a while now

Somewhere he even said that Recee didn't even want to go back to Texas. I believe that as much as I believe she said he didn't request a trade.

He is probably going to be a journeyman player with his attitude. He was first in what I am sure will be a long line to want to be a Spur as long as Wemby is healthy. Long enough to boost their stats into a fat contract with another club. Fox passed up that contract and if I'm the Spurs knowing what he did to get there I'm not giving him the extension I'm signing him in 2026 knowing we can offer 5 years and no other team can. Plus Houston will be capped out in 2 years if they keep their core and Miami probably has to start paying guys too.

will LMFAO if it doesn't work out as planned.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

who is that and what is he referencing?

he is pretty typical of the Kings clique on twitter. Tets will back me up.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I think is more than fair to say that Carter was not a smart pick based on a need and at the same time be more patient with evaluation of his progression considering the late start

Given what we now know Carter was a pick for need and possibly BPA.

 

[Rain man]

It is so funny to read the Sacramento "quasi-media" people on Twitter praise the Sacramento media for the hardball questions on Monte. It's like, "yeah, we so badass." It just makes me laugh. Our podcaster/media adjacent/quasi media/"twitter dude with a platform" community is just so self-important.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Jason Anderson is a fairly mediocre beat reporter that represents the dead corpse of legacy print media and he mops the floor with the Kings fan-reporting. Amick is really the only credible reporter in the Kings sphere, I wouldn't even bother with a press conference unless he commits to attending.

 

[Tetsujin]

Jason Anderson is a fairly mediocre beat reporter that represents the dead corpse of legacy print media and he mops the floor with the Kings fan-reporting. Amick is really the only credible reporter in the Kings sphere, I wouldn't even bother with a press conference unless he commits to attending.

Biderman also does solid reporting for the Bee. Deuce and Mo are also good but they’re also more than just random bloggers and they also excel more in a one-on-one setting than in media scrums.

Im definitely in the minority but I miss Jason Jones.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Biderman also does solid reporting for the Bee. Deuce and Mo are also good but they’re also more than just random bloggers and they also excel more in a one-on-one setting than in media scrums.

Im definitely in the minority but I miss Jason Jones.

Deuce and Mo are Kings employees though. They are not my favorite reporters but they are probably my favorite employees outside of G-Man and Mark Jones. To whatever they do on their podcast they still have to remain in good graces of the org.

 

[Shaqfuey]

Biderman also does solid reporting for the Bee. Deuce and Mo are also good but they’re also more than just random bloggers and they also excel more in a one-on-one setting than in media scrums.

Im definitely in the minority but I miss Jason Jones.

I was about to add Jason Jones as one guy I trusted to speak the truth. I didn't always like what I heard, but he was generally right once I took the emotions out of it.

 

[Sherds]

Somewhere he even said that Recee didn't even want to go back to Texas. I believe that as much as I believe she said he didn't request a trade.

He is probably going to be a journeyman player with his attitude. He was first in what I am sure will be a long line to want to be a Spur as long as Wemby is healthy. Long enough to boost their stats into a fat contract with another club. Fox passed up that contract and if I'm the Spurs knowing what he did to get there I'm not giving him the extension I'm signing him in 2026 knowing we can offer 5 years and no other team can. Plus Houston will be capped out in 2 years if they keep their core and Miami probably has to start paying guys too.

will LMFAO if it doesn't work out as planned.

I hope Castle develops as they hope/expect, the Fox contract becomes a problematic to them hanging onto their core and decide to ship him to a team he doesnt want to go to, but has zero choice. Ideally before SA win a chip which seems only a matter of time with Wemby.

That smirk suggests he thinks he was the missing peice and plotted along with Paul for the Spurs to keep all their players and as many assets as they could...f*#king the Kings along the way.

I like when smuggness is humbled and deceitful plans fail.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I hope Castle develops as they hope/expect, the Fox contract becomes a problematic to them hanging onto their core and decide to ship him to a team he doesnt want to go to, but has zero choice. Ideally before SA win a chip which seems only a matter of time with Wemby.

That smirk suggests he thinks he was the missing peice and plotted along with Paul for the Spurs to keep all their players and as many assets as they could...f*#king the Kings along the way.

I like when smuggness is humbled and deceitful plans fail.

Eh, they stuck to their guns so hard on Castle I hope he is closer to a finished product than he is to SGA. Not rooting for anyone in that organization. Not rooting for someone to get Bobby Hurley'd but beyond that, f'em.

Spoiler: aside

But since I mentioned him, f Bobby Hurley too. clown ass coach.