De'Aaron Fox: 27.0MPG, Kyle Kuzma: 28.1MPG
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Smh
Stop it
Kings fans go along with everything Grant tells them until years later when we all wake up and realize the common problem is the organization making obvious mistakes.
26 MPG is laughable. Treat him like you think he's the next huge thing even if he isn't. Not only does it drive up his trade value potentially, it creates more hype amongst fans and business value. Fox IS the most important asset the Kings have RIGHT NOW. And with that they're trying to do some nonsense WCS-Koufos led offense that has Fox hesitant on when to take over. Tell him the offense is his and let him crash and burn as many times as he needs to. It's like we are almost telling him he has to play perfect with the way we are treating him.
Stop it
Kings fans go along with everything Grant tells them until years later when we all wake up and realize the common problem is the organization making obvious mistakes.
26 MPG is laughable. Treat him like you think he's the next huge thing even if he isn't. Not only does it drive up his trade value potentially, it creates more hype amongst fans and business value. Fox IS the most important asset the Kings have RIGHT NOW. And with that they're trying to do some nonsense WCS-Koufos led offense that has Fox hesitant on when to take over. Tell him the offense is his and let him crash and burn as many times as he needs to. It's like we are almost telling him he has to play perfect with the way we are treating him.
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Chicken or the egg though? Kuzma has a coach that believes in his players, Ball is averaging around -2 ppg and still plays 30 minutes and has the city and coach behind him playing to his strengths.
Joerger says he believes but doesn't show it come game time. There are instances Fox won't come in until the 2 minutes marker because he isn't Zbo and that's Dave's entire focus it feels like
Joerger says he believes but doesn't show it come game time. There are instances Fox won't come in until the 2 minutes marker because he isn't Zbo and that's Dave's entire focus it feels like
Nope, not at all. But their core of mostly young players with a reliable older vet or two seem to be on the path to where they want to be, which is what I want.
Are the Kings another top-5 pick away from being even .500 and "on the right path?" Not likely unless that player is LeBron or Kevin Durant.
I hate to even be "that guy" who says my last post... it's just I'm as frustrated and pessimistic as I have ever been as a Kings fan (minus when I was 100% sure they were leaving). Gotta vent it out a bit.
Are the Kings another top-5 pick away from being even .500 and "on the right path?" Not likely unless that player is LeBron or Kevin Durant.
I hate to even be "that guy" who says my last post... it's just I'm as frustrated and pessimistic as I have ever been as a Kings fan (minus when I was 100% sure they were leaving). Gotta vent it out a bit.
Josh Jackson (the pick prior to Fox) is playing 24 minutes per game. Jonathan Isaac (the pick after Fox) is getting less than 20 minutes per game. They must not be developing those guys. Of the 5 previous 5th overall draft picks only 1 played more than 20mpg and that was Dante Exum at 20.4 mpg. I think Fox's minutes are fine and I bet as the season wears on he'll get more and more minutes and end up averaging 28-30 per game.
So we should let Hill sit on the bench while making 19 mil a year? Here's some advice. go troll somewhere else. Were not the Lakers and we don't give a damm how many minutes Ball plays. As a matter of fact, how is that working out for Ball who is shooting 30% overall and 25% from the three. And right now, he can't defend a chair. All those minutes don't seem to be helping him improve.
This is no chicken or egg .
Kuzma showed what he could do in sumer league and id assume training camp. He has forced his way to more minutes by outplaying his teammates and by looking great from the begjning of the season. For your theory to hace any credibiloty, that would mean Kuzma played poorly at the start of season, then got a boost of confidence due to an jncrease in roll and minutes from the coach (even tbough his play disnt warrant more mins) and the procced to play much better.
No thats not what happened. Kuzma earned his mins by omaying good. He didnt atart omaying good cause the coach gave him mins.
And there are endless examples of rookies given a long leash and starter mins from the get go that fell on their faces and never got better.
Pretending a player is "hall of famer" is not some secrect magical spell that turns him into that
Kuzma showed what he could do in sumer league and id assume training camp. He has forced his way to more minutes by outplaying his teammates and by looking great from the begjning of the season. For your theory to hace any credibiloty, that would mean Kuzma played poorly at the start of season, then got a boost of confidence due to an jncrease in roll and minutes from the coach (even tbough his play disnt warrant more mins) and the procced to play much better.
No thats not what happened. Kuzma earned his mins by omaying good. He didnt atart omaying good cause the coach gave him mins.
And there are endless examples of rookies given a long leash and starter mins from the get go that fell on their faces and never got better.
Pretending a player is "hall of famer" is not some secrect magical spell that turns him into that
This
Kuzma and Ball play like they know they're allowed to fail this year.. That's why you see the high tempo offense where everyone is getting shots up in rhythm.. we got Fox coming in with 2 minutes left in the 1st down 12 pts as if that's a healthy situation to constantly enter the game in where every play you do from that point forward is playing catch up and less room for error causing a young rookie to play conservatively instead of exploring his own game and playing more free.
Kuzma and Ball play like they know they're allowed to fail this year.. That's why you see the high tempo offense where everyone is getting shots up in rhythm.. we got Fox coming in with 2 minutes left in the 1st down 12 pts as if that's a healthy situation to constantly enter the game in where every play you do from that point forward is playing catch up and less room for error causing a young rookie to play conservatively instead of exploring his own game and playing more free.
Star treatment doesn't play much of a role, but playing to the strengths of your rookies does. Ball's biggest strength is his ability to push the ball up the court quickly. Lakers are playing at a high pace (3rd in the league).
Randle, Nance, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart and Clarkson are some decent, young running mates. They have some vets, that fit in decently in Brewer and Caldwell Pope and while Lopez or Bogut don't run the floor very well, both give them something else - floor spacing in Lopez's case and rim protection and a big body in boguts case, who is also used to play in uptempo systems, because of his time with the Warriors.
Randle, Nance, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart and Clarkson are some decent, young running mates. They have some vets, that fit in decently in Brewer and Caldwell Pope and while Lopez or Bogut don't run the floor very well, both give them something else - floor spacing in Lopez's case and rim protection and a big body in boguts case, who is also used to play in uptempo systems, because of his time with the Warriors.
There's a guy in this league that averaged 2.1 points his first year and played 8.6 minutes a game; the 2nd year year he played 19.4 minutes a game and averaged 6.0 points per game. And it isn't just stats with this guy; I saw him in year 1 and year 2 and looked very unimpressive in all aspects of the game. Now in his 5th year he's averaging 18.3 points per game and he's shooting 52.5% on 3s and is a very good rebounder and defender. Otto Porter. Now you have to ask yourself, could you have foreseen that after his 2nd year, much less his first year, he would become the player he is today? A lot of guys take a big jump up in their 3rd year, and then again in their fifth year. Unless a player is a remarkable talent like LBJ there is little certainty about who is going to do what when they get to be 25 years old.