De’AarHIM Fox

206Fan said:
That's ultimately up to him. If he keeps playing this way, then 100% yes. However, if he puts up duds like the Memphis game, then no.

The starting unit has 2 back court players paired with 3 front court guys. The bench will also have at least 2 back court and 3 front court guys. There's 2 remaining spots that can go to any position. The final few spots are up for grabs imo.

Right now, here's what I think the locks for the AS look like:

Starters
G: Doncic*
G: Curry*
F: Lebron*
F: Zion
C: Jokic*

Reserves
G: SGA*
G: Morant*
F: PG13*
F: Sabonis*
C: AD or Markkanen

Additional Spots:
1: Booker*
2:

Guys who I think are locks have an asterisk by their name.

Left fighting for my projected lone spot are: Fox, Lillard, Edwards, Bane, and Grant.

Injuries could shake things up. Curry has been out for several games now. Lillard and Bane have missed considerable amount of games. AD is still out because of injury. Zion has also just recently gotten injured. I'm also not sure if they'll classify Doncic as a front court player because of his size.
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at this rate it may ultimately come down between Shai and Fox
 
kingsboi said:
at this rate it may ultimately come down between Shai and Fox
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I could be wrong, but I don't think so. We have a lot of games left between now and then, but Shai has been playing at an elite level.

Shai: 30.8pts 5.8asts 4.8rebs 1.7stls on 49.9/35.4/91.3 shooting splits.

Fox: 23.4pts 5.9asts 4.7rebs 0.9stls on 49.9/34.6/79.1 shooting splits.

Section 101 said:
Team Records count.
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Eh, it doesn't, and it shouldn't. Even with that in mind, OKC is surpassing all expectations with a record of 16-21.

That OKC team is really inexperienced and young.
 
Well I have just this to say. I feel a heck of a lot better having the ball in fox’s hands in crunch time than I ever did in Buddy’s the last few years. We have been blessed that this roster and coaching has allowed Fox to play the game the way he is doing.
 
Jc121 said:
Well I have just this to say. I feel a heck of a lot better having the ball in fox’s hands in crunch time than I ever did in Buddy’s the last few years. We have been blessed that this roster and coaching has allowed Fox to play the game the way he is doing.
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And for some reason Buddy had the ball in his hands a LOT in the clutch. Walton smh.
 
PorchSurfin said:
And for some reason Buddy had the ball in his hands a LOT in the clutch. Walton smh.
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Not to defend Walton because I think he was a terrible coach and hire, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn there was special guidance from the upper offices on that one.

Vivek reportedly thought Buddy Hield was the next Steph Curry because of course he did.
 
sactowndog said:
He had a great 4th quarter. He was also -6 and had 4 turnovers to 6 assists. Yeah we won because the Jazz don’t have anyone quick enough to stop him but his defense remains half assed recently and unless it improves the top teams will hurt us.
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LMAO what? This is the weirdest way to take away from someone's dominant performance. "Kobe only scored 81 cuz no one was good enough to stop em, but -"
 
sactowndog said:
He had a great 4th quarter. He was also -6 and had 4 turnovers to 6 assists. Yeah we won because the Jazz don’t have anyone quick enough to stop him but his defense remains half assed recently and unless it improves the top teams will hurt us.
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Plus/minus are skewed against Fox because he plays with whoever backs DS up.Most of the time that is a negative run and becomes extremely negative if Monk is off that night.
 
KingsFanSince85 said:
Told my wife right when it happened that the best thing about De’Aaron’s last shot was that it hung on the rim for several bounces and wasted enough time so that it was virtually impossible for the Jazz to get a shot off in time. And they didn’t.

But if Swipa’s layup goes in more smoothly leaving .06 or more — that follow up shot by Markkanen counts. And we’re all crushed.

Those are the lucky breaks that many don’t consider.

But our KINGS deserved that good fortune after what the officials did to them once again. Bush league officiating, like usual. The Clarkson foul really irks me given that De’Aaron got called for an offensive foul for doing the exact same thing a few games ago.
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Anyone remembers FVV shove that apparently was a flop by Fox vs Raptors according to refs and yet Clarkson's really bad hollywooding was rewarded
 
206Fan said:
That's ultimately up to him. If he keeps playing this way, then 100% yes. However, if he puts up duds like the Memphis game, then no.

The starting unit has 2 back court players paired with 3 front court guys. The bench will also have at least 2 back court and 3 front court guys. There's 2 remaining spots that can go to any position. The final few spots are up for grabs imo.

Right now, here's what I think the locks for the AS look like:

Starters
G: Doncic*
G: Curry*
F: Lebron*
F: Zion
C: Jokic*

Reserves
G: SGA*
G: Morant*
F: PG13*
F: Sabonis*
C: AD or Markkanen

Additional Spots:
1: Booker*
2:

Guys who I think are locks have an asterisk by their name.

Left fighting for my projected lone spot are: Fox, Lillard, Edwards, Bane, and Grant.

Injuries could shake things up. Curry has been out for several games now. Lillard and Bane have missed considerable amount of games. AD is still out because of injury. Zion has also just recently gotten injured. I'm also not sure if they'll classify Doncic as a front court player because of his size.
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It will be very tough for DF.I think Lillard will be in contention as well
 
NewArena said:
LMAO what? This is the weirdest way to take away from someone's dominant performance. "Kobe only scored 81 cuz no one was good enough to stop em, but -"
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Same as Giannis, just because no one in the league is tall and strong enough to stop him, that doesn't make him the MVP. Come on now. Let's get serious.

Same goes for Shaq... just because no one is 7'1" and 300 some pounds, that surely can't make him the most dominant center in his generation.

/s
 
Löwenherz said:
Not to defend Walton because I think he was a terrible coach and hire, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn there was special guidance from the upper offices on that one.

Vivek reportedly thought Buddy Hield was the next Steph Curry because of course he did.
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Nah i definitely put that on Walton. By the time he got here, there's no way Vivek still thought this.
 
ESP47 said:
Not to mention Markkanen shooting his 3 clean and then spazzing out afterward for a BS foul.
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This is likely a revelation that many fans have had already and I'm just late to the party, but I think that a large part of the discrepancy when it comes to fouls called for/against the Kings is simply that there aren't a lot of floppers on this team. Nobody on the Kings is consistently trying to "sell" contact, whereas it seems as if everybody they play is regularly flailing about like they're made of rubber. I guess Mike Brown didn't get the memo that you need to incorporate acting lessons into your coaching if you want the game to be called more "fairly" in your favor. :rolleyes:
 
Padrino said:
This is likely a revelation that many fans have had already and I'm just late to the party, but I think that a large part of the discrepancy when it comes to fouls called for/against the Kings is simply that there aren't a lot of floppers on this team. Nobody on the Kings is consistently trying to "sell" contact, whereas it seems as if everybody they play is regularly flailing about like they're made of rubber. I guess Mike Brown didn't get the memo that you need to incorporate acting lessons into your coaching if you want the game to be called more "fairly" in your favor. :rolleyes:
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I don't know if I'll ever forgive Vlade for the damage he did to this franchise as GM..

But maybe his redemption arc begins as an assistant coach hired just to teach flopping skills?

Before he was the Vladfather, he was Floppy Divac!
 
gunks said:
I don't know if I'll ever forgive Vlade for the damage he did to this franchise as GM..

But maybe his redemption arc begins as an assistant coach hired just to teach flopping skills?

Before he was the Vladfather, he was Floppy Divac!
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You are giving him too much credit. If nothing else, he introduced flopping to the mainstream NBA back in the 90s which might have been a reason why the Kings aren't getting a fair whistle these days... But I digress...

/s
 
KainLear said:
You are giving him too much credit. If nothing else, he introduced flopping to the mainstream NBA back in the 90s which might have been a reason why the Kings aren't getting a fair whistle these days... But I digress...

/s
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The Bad Boys of Detroit were flopping long before Vlade came along. I remember Bill Lambier being asked about it after a game, and responded, "As long as the Refs keep calling it, I'll keep doing it."
 
Padrino said:
This is likely a revelation that many fans have had already and I'm just late to the party, but I think that a large part of the discrepancy when it comes to fouls called for/against the Kings is simply that there aren't a lot of floppers on this team. Nobody on the Kings is consistently trying to "sell" contact, whereas it seems as if everybody they play is regularly flailing about like they're made of rubber. I guess Mike Brown didn't get the memo that you need to incorporate acting lessons into your coaching if you want the game to be called more "fairly" in your favor. :rolleyes:
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I was kinda advocating in my head for DS to flop a few times when Adams was raping him from behind in that Memphis game
 
Vlade was one of the first notable Euros in the league. Aside from Detroit as mentioned, the minute we got the mass introduction of footballing nations entering the league it was inevitable.
 
Section 101 said:
Fox could be league MVP and Finals MVP and Sactowndog would still find something negative.
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actually I have posted multiple positive posts about him when he was playing good defense. I already know he can get to the rim against slower defenders.

I care about him playing above average defense and limiting turnovers. Lately he has done neither of those things.
 
Fantazija said:
Plus/minus are skewed against Fox because he plays with whoever backs DS up.Most of the time that is a negative run and becomes extremely negative if Monk is off that night.
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that is fair…. But the A/to ratio and defense are not where they need to be for a max player.
 
sactowndog said:
that is fair…. But the A/to ratio and defense are not where they need to be for a max player.
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He’s the most clutch 4th quarter player in the league currently based on stats ranking.
Carries the offense when Domas isn’t facilitating.
Still plays quality defense
Makes others around him better by drawing the defense to the paint
He’s earning his contract

You criticizing / nitpicking him after his 22 point 4th quarter explosion after the Utah game says it all.
 
dude12 said:
He’s the most clutch 4th quarter player in the league currently based on stats ranking.
Carries the offense when Domas isn’t facilitating.
Still plays quality defense
Makes others around him better by drawing the defense to the paint
He’s earning his contract

You criticizing / nitpicking him after his 22 point 4th quarter explosion after the Utah game says it all.
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Actually he does not carry the offense as much while DS is sitting.Thats why those crazy negative off/on comes in during that stretch.To be fair it's not on Fox.It seems that Brown wants him off the ball mostly while they share the court with Monk.I guess the idea is to keep him as fresh as possible for his patented end of the game dominant run.
 
Fantazija said:
Actually he does not carry the offense as much while DS is sitting.Thats why those crazy negative off/on comes in during that stretch.To be fair it's not on Fox.It seems that Brown wants him off the ball mostly while they share the court with Monk.I guess the idea is to keep him as fresh as possible for his patented end of the game dominant run.
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Probably wouldn't need the end of game run if he was more aggressive in the first half. I'd like to see him work on getting to the rim and the line at the beginning of the game instead of just shooting 3s.
 
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