Davion Mitchell
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We just have to hope Brown gets to this sooner than later. Got a bad feeling Javale is going to get the first crack at back-up C minutes and it'll be a real real mistake.
I keep thinking about our main reserve LU last year and how much better it can be with Lyles at the 5 and Vezenkov at the 4. Potentially just an elite elite offensive grouping with giving Fox and Monk free range to the rim with defenses having to respect that elite spacing from Vezenkov/Lyles pairing.
Fox
Monk
Keegan/HB
Vezenkov
Lyles
My word. Just after you get done with dealing with our starting unit running you off ball screen after ball screen, now you have to figure out if you want elite shooters to stay wide open or let Fox/Monk attack the rim with no rim protection.
I keep thinking about our main reserve LU last year and how much better it can be with Lyles at the 5 and Vezenkov at the 4. Potentially just an elite elite offensive grouping with giving Fox and Monk free range to the rim with defenses having to respect that elite spacing from Vezenkov/Lyles pairing.
Fox
Monk
Keegan/HB
Vezenkov
Lyles
My word. Just after you get done with dealing with our starting unit running you off ball screen after ball screen, now you have to figure out if you want elite shooters to stay wide open or let Fox/Monk attack the rim with no rim protection.
Essentially he changed his breathing to be less tense and worked on keeping his body upright when he would shoot according to him.
He was measuring the arc on his shots and said he got it basically to a consistent range from what I recall.
Nothing was changed in terms of his form which are his words.
Excited to see how the shot looks now!
He was measuring the arc on his shots and said he got it basically to a consistent range from what I recall.
Nothing was changed in terms of his form which are his words.
Excited to see how the shot looks now!
Mitchell all of a sudden improving his three point percentages isn't going to make the Kings offense much better. Where it starts is with Sabonis taking and making his mid-range shots and with a whole summer to heal the hand, we will see how much he's come along. In the meantime, you can't sit Davion just because he isn't shooting well but that's just my view on it and instead use his elite skill, winning organizations utilize their players all the time in this sense, it's time the Kings do the same thing.
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Davion becoming a better shooter would make the Kings a better team. He’s a plus defender but defenses don’t respect his shot so this crowds the paint for Fox and Sabonis, which bogs the offense down thus limiting his impact as his impact defensively is negated by the loss on offense. If teams can’t sag off him he would be a plus on both ends.
I agree with you that he is impactful as he is now as a defender, but his role is limited. My point is if he can improve as a shooter he has the potential to be a high level to elite role player. His first 2 years from 3 he’s at about 31-32% on 3+ attempts per game, if he can get that up to 36-37% on 4+ attempts per game would be a game changer and Mike Brown would have a tough time keeping him off the floor.
To me the great news about Mitchel's improved shooting and Colby looking like the real thing is that it should mean more rest for Fox and a shorter rope or Kevin/Monk on their off nights. This should not only translate into a few more wins but, most importantly a better-prepared team for post season.
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Hmm. Here's the deal. We have the following guards
Fox
Davion
Kevin
Monk
These are the top 4 guys. Others like Colby, Duarte, Ford, Keon are lower in the depth chart, but might move up during the season, or due to some injury.
Of the 4, Monk is the only real combo guard. Fox and Davion lack size and shooting to play 2 for long periods, and Kevin lacks floor management. Even if Davion becomes a much better shooter, he can't play with Fox except for short stretches.
I agree that he plays bigger than his size, is extremely strong, and with his defense, can give problems to slightly taller players too. However, I don't think playing him at 2 is a long term solution, particularly when we have two of our top 6/7 guys already playing that position.
So, his increased minutes will largely come at Fox's expense. Might not be an entirely bad thing over the season, or when Fox skips games. However, you want your best player to be on the floor as much as possible, particularly in critical/playoff games.
So, yes. I agree that Davion will help the team a lot if he improves as a shooter. I still think that this impact will be limited to the minutes Fox is off the floor. It might be a Bobby/Bibby kind of situation, though there, Bobby was more of a combo guard, a clear third option at that position on the depth chart, and Doug was known more for defense than shooting. Here, the roles are slightly reversed for Davion wrt Kevin and Monk.
Fox
Davion
Kevin
Monk
These are the top 4 guys. Others like Colby, Duarte, Ford, Keon are lower in the depth chart, but might move up during the season, or due to some injury.
Of the 4, Monk is the only real combo guard. Fox and Davion lack size and shooting to play 2 for long periods, and Kevin lacks floor management. Even if Davion becomes a much better shooter, he can't play with Fox except for short stretches.
I agree that he plays bigger than his size, is extremely strong, and with his defense, can give problems to slightly taller players too. However, I don't think playing him at 2 is a long term solution, particularly when we have two of our top 6/7 guys already playing that position.
So, his increased minutes will largely come at Fox's expense. Might not be an entirely bad thing over the season, or when Fox skips games. However, you want your best player to be on the floor as much as possible, particularly in critical/playoff games.
So, yes. I agree that Davion will help the team a lot if he improves as a shooter. I still think that this impact will be limited to the minutes Fox is off the floor. It might be a Bobby/Bibby kind of situation, though there, Bobby was more of a combo guard, a clear third option at that position on the depth chart, and Doug was known more for defense than shooting. Here, the roles are slightly reversed for Davion wrt Kevin and Monk.
Mitchell looks to be an improved outside shooter. Good for him. His off-season work appears to have paid off in that regard. That said, his play-making has been subpar. Too many turnovers, no real creativity in assist-making, and far too often trying to do too much with the ball. He also is very average in getting his own shot off. Obviously, his defense is great one on one, but as others have pointed out this feature of his game gets diminished somewhat by a league that switches so often. In sum, he's a mixed bag for me. If you asked me if I had to choose between Mitchell and Jones I'd say Jones.
I don’t agree that an increase in minutes for Davion would come at Fox’s expense. I absolutely think Davion and Fox could play together with improved shooting from Davion as both are capable of guarding up. I think there’s a chance this year we’ll see a three guard lineup of Mitchell/Fox/Monk all playing together at times.
I actually thought Monk was bigger, so my bad on that.
That said, I think Monk is more of a combo guard; in that he can be a secondary play maker and has a good outside shot. Fox is more of a lead guard. However, I do admit that I was also talking in terms of defending the two position, where I thought Monk had more size.
That said, I think Monk is more of a combo guard; in that he can be a secondary play maker and has a good outside shot. Fox is more of a lead guard. However, I do admit that I was also talking in terms of defending the two position, where I thought Monk had more size.
Will be great if it happens. Having three strong ball handlers, with one having a great midrange game, and two good outside shooters would be a dream. Couple that with strong defense, and additional outside shooting of Murray/Barnes/Sasha, and it would be great.
Once again though; between Barnes, Murray, Sasha, and Lyles, some of them will see a lot of time at 3. Perhaps, some of the remaining minutes will go the lineup you suggested.
Once again though; between Barnes, Murray, Sasha, and Lyles, some of them will see a lot of time at 3. Perhaps, some of the remaining minutes will go the lineup you suggested.