Darren Collison Pleads Guilty

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After multiple delays and continuances, Darren Collison’s domestic violence case, stemming from a May 30 incident at his home in Granite Bay, Ca, has finally come to a conclusion in Placer County courtroom. Collison, 29, pleaded guilty Friday morning to one count of misdemeanor domestic violence,CSNCalifornia.com has learned.
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Ok then, better this was done as early as possible so hopefully the league can announce a penalty as early as possible and we can know what we are facing/have to prepare for.
 
miltonap said:
I'd say 10 games max probably 6-7
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kingsboi said:
The question now is how many games will he miss? I say 5-10
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Those seem low to me. Let's not forget that Artest got seven for pleading guility to a misdemeanor. Yes, all cases are different, and Artest had other "priors" while Collison's rap sheet appears otherwise clean. But Artest's suspension was nine years ago, and public and league consciousness of domestic violence has changed since then.
 
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Here is the Placer County statement, via Sean Cunningham's Twitter (https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/status/771849810085371904)
 
I suspect that we won't be seeing Collison for 10-15 games to start the season.

Does anyone know if he will be allowed to practice and travel with the team while suspended?
 
What were the injuries, exactly??? That makes all the difference to me, regardless of the Placer County statement that they were "minor in nature."
 
Well, it takes a big man to accept responsibility and make amends. It's surprising that this happened but it looks like he is back on track.
 
Jeff Taylor (who?) got suspended 24 games pleading guilty to a similar misdemeanor charge. I think the NBA will make an example out of him, they've been wanting to reform this policy for some years now.
 
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ApolloDaGod said:
Jeff Taylor got suspended 24 games pleading guilty to a similar misdemeanor charge. I think the NBA will make an example out of him, they've been wanting to reform this policy for some years now.
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Jeff Taylor's crime was considerably more ugly. Drinking, screaming that got the police called, destruction of property, punched a hole in the wall etc.

No telling how the NBA deals with this, as in the end these suspensions are rarely about appropriate punishment -- that's handled by the courts -- and more about playing to the mob who are their customers. But Taylor's situation was as much an outlier for standard domestic violence situations as Ron Artest charging into the stands was compared to all oncourt fights that have followed.
 
I believe I mentioned this in another thread but I believe the situation can be helped if the kings are in constant contact with the NBA front office and will offer their own reasonable suspension first.

For example, I suspect that the maximum is around 15 games and the minimum is around 5. I believe if the Kings offer up a 5 games suspension of their own then unless the NBA gets really serious heat from it they may just accept that or add a game or two of their own. In that scenario, I believe the worst Darren gets is 7 games.

If the Kings really wait for the NBA to rule and allow this to build steam while the NBA takes their time to determine a punishment, then the Kings would allow time for public sentiments to worsen against them and the NBA may hand down a worser penalty.

In essence, In striking now with a suspension The Kings decrease the overall time that the story can evolve and grow. The longer it takes for a suspension from either the NBA or the Kings, the worst I believe this punishment can be.
 
I'm going to guess 7-10 games. A pretty significant chunk because the NBA will not want to play games and it will want to send a pretty clear message.
 
CBS Sports article I read seems to assume the 24 game suspension. I sure hope they are wrong about that.

Would somebody recap the logic of suspension as a punishment versus just fining them the same amount of game pay? Just a blind spot where I don't quite get the point of punishing so many innocent peripheral people (teammates, employer, fans) for Darren's mis-deeds. But it happens all the time.

Why is "suspension" a preferred punishment over "fork over the same number of game checks"?
 
lwc said:
I believe I mentioned this in another thread but I believe the situation can be helped if the kings are in constant contact with the NBA front office and will offer their own reasonable suspension first.

For example, I suspect that the maximum is around 15 games and the minimum is around 5. I believe if the Kings offer up a 5 games suspension of their own then unless the NBA gets really serious heat from it they may just accept that or add a game or two of their own. In that scenario, I believe the worst Darren gets is 7 games.

If the Kings really wait for the NBA to rule and allow this to build steam while the NBA takes their time to determine a punishment, then the Kings would allow time for public sentiments to worsen against them and the NBA may hand down a worser penalty.

In essence, In striking now with a suspension The Kings decrease the overall time that the story can evolve and grow. The longer it takes for a suspension from either the NBA or the Kings, the worst I believe this punishment can be.
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The Kings statement confirms that they are in contact with the NBA:

We’re working with Darren and the NBA on the appropriate next steps.
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That said, I can't recall a recent suspension like this that came from the team, not the league.
 
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Whether Collison gets a 5 game suspension or a 1 year suspension is relevant to the Kings, so I get why so many people here are making their predictions. But my interest (as a Kings fan) is the moral implication of his crime. It's inadequate (for me) to simply accept what the court has imposed, which is that he is guilty of misdemeanor domestic violence, without knowing more about what happened.
Did he butt heads with his wife during an argument? Did he punch her? Slap her? Block the door as she was trying to leave? Did he bruise her wrist when he held it to keep her from slapping him? Or did he knock her out?
Knowing more about what happened and why it happened would help me to assess his rightful punishment as a King. Whether to root for him when he does return, whether to trade him or release him, etc.
Maybe we'll never know the details. Or know them with any accuracy. But I still long to know them before projecting what I think is "justice" in this matter. For those who think the details don't matter, I hope you are never charged with a crime!
 
jcassio said:
Whether Collison gets a 5 game suspension or a 1 year suspension is relevant to the Kings, so I get why so many people here are making their predictions. But my interest (as a Kings fan) is the moral implication of his crime. It's inadequate (for me) to simply accept what the court has imposed, which is that he is guilty of misdemeanor domestic violence, without knowing more about what happened.
Did he butt heads with his wife during an argument? Did he punch her? Slap her? Block the door as she was trying to leave? Did he bruise her wrist when he held it to keep her from slapping him? Or did he knock her out?
Knowing more about what happened and why it happened would help me to assess his rightful punishment as a King. Whether to root for him when he does return, whether to trade him or release him, etc.
Maybe we'll never know the details. Or know them with any accuracy. But I still long to know them before projecting what I think is "justice" in this matter. For those who think the details don't matter, I hope you are never charged with a crime!
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NBA and Kings organization will know the details, act as a moral judge and we will find out the verdict.
I do not see a problem rooting for Collison once suspension is served and he is back as a King.
 
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