Dalembert Not Considering Staying with Kings???

[Peter_Gibbons]

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/12/.../landing_heat.html?blockID=619990&feedID=3722


"Dalembert told FOX Sports Florida last week that the three teams he’s targeting are the Heat, New York and Houston. Houston, that one is the best," said Dalembert. He later added, “I’m interested in the Rockets. They have a good team over there, a running team."

From this article, it seems Sammy is set to leave the Kings and sign with one of those 3 teams. While this is a Florida article, I also remember Sammy not sounding very enthusiastic about returning to the Kings when asked towards the end of last season.

Hopefully money talks at the end and the Maloofs comes through. But realistically, I don't want the team to overpay Dalembert. Anything over $10 mil is overpaying at this point in his career. But there are a lot of desperate teams out there that needs a quality big. Houston is the key competition here.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/05/4099932/kings-ready-to-make-pitches-to.html


Sacbee article states the Kings will contact both Dalembert and Thronton today which is expected. But says nothing more than the fact that we have the most money to spend on free agents which we all already know.

 

[uolj]

Note that there is also this part of the same foxsportsflorida article:

Dalembert, who averaged 8.1 points and 8.2 rebounds last season, did say “chances are still open" he could re-sign with the Kings. He said he exchanged text messages with Sacramento coach Paul Westphal on Monday, the first day teams could resume contacting players after a five-month lockout. Dalembert said the exchange of texts was along the lines of both the coach and center being eager to get back to work.

Which of course says he is considering staying with the Kings. But yes, unfortunately I'd call it a less than enthusiastic quote.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

I see.

I mean at the end of the day, if we are willing to throw him the most money, then he would resign. But I'm wondering what amount would that be. If its too much, then I don't think its worth it. Let me state I would love to retain Dalembert. But not for a long term overpaying contract.

 

[joemama]

Dalembert or Granger which news is worse?

I don't know what's worse hearing Dally is probably going to Houston, or that we are looking into trading with the Pacers a deal centered around Reke and Granger.

Sh*t if anything sign and trade Dally if he doesn't want to be here, get something out of value for him.

Pacers are looking for big man, we could sign and trade Dally if they throw the right pieces, but definately not Reke.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

I'm sick of this garbage. Seems like every player in the NBA think they're LeBron now.

 

[boffacheerios]

I don't know what's worse hearing Dally is probably going to Houston, or that we are looking into trading with the Pacers a deal centered around Reke and Granger.

Sh*t if anything sign and trade Dally if he doesn't want to be here, get something out of value for him.

Pacers are looking for big man, we could sign and trade Dally if they throw the right pieces, but definately not Reke.

Do you have a link to the pacers rumor? I haven't heard anything about that

 

[rainmaker]

He said within the last week we're still a option. Then said on monday, he exchanged texts with Westy.

What is with all this fear mongering? Reminds me of government.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

I don't know what's worse hearing Dally is probably going to Houston, or that we are looking into trading with the Pacers a deal centered around Reke and Granger.

Sh*t if anything sign and trade Dally if he doesn't want to be here, get something out of value for him.

Pacers are looking for big man, we could sign and trade Dally if they throw the right pieces, but definately not Reke.

Granger is a very good player but I don't know if I'd give up Tyreke for him at this point. This is another move that doesn't make much sense to me from a roster standpoint though. This team still has a serious identity problem. i'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever see the days again where we know who the starting PG is, who the starting C is, who the starting PF is, etc. Seems like we haven't had that since Miller and Bibby left.

 

[Hoovtrain]

I don't know what's worse hearing Dally is probably going to Houston, or that we are looking into trading with the Pacers a deal centered around Reke and Granger.

Sh*t if anything sign and trade Dally if he doesn't want to be here, get something out of value for him.

Pacers are looking for big man, we could sign and trade Dally if they throw the right pieces, but definately not Reke.

Where exactly are you getting this from?
I also wouldn't say that Dalembert is "probably" going to HOU. Kings have reached out to him about coming back and he has been receptive to the idea of coming back.

 

[SacKings7]

Being from Canada, I'm not really surprised at this at all if it is indeed true. He committed to playing for Team Canada, and then he turned his back on us. With that being said, it's gonna be damn hard to replace him if he does in fact leave. He will be missed.

Any truth to that Pacers rumor mentioned above? I'd love to have Granger on the team, just not for Tyreke or Cousins

 

[SacTownKid]

Honestly, I would be so surprised to see Petrie re-sign Dalembert. The vibe I get from Petrie is that Thornton is for sure back, Daly = gone. It will be interesting to see if he can maybe get something in a sign and trade.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Any truth to that Pacers rumor mentioned above? I'd love to have Granger on the team, just not for Tyreke or Cousins

I see nothing.

Nothing on the twitter feeds of the reporters covering the Kings, nothing on other Kings sites, nothing on the Pacers' SBNation site...all appears to be quiet on Granger/Evans talk. Show me a link or it didn't happen.

 

[rainmaker]

I see nothing.

Nothing on the twitter feeds of the reporters covering the Kings, nothing on other Kings sites, nothing on the Pacers' SBNation site...all appears to be quiet on Granger/Evans talk. Show me a link or it didn't happen.

Yeah really. I have a good idea of which sites/twitter accounts to follow, and nothing has been mentioned.

We should have a rule. No posting "rumors" without a link/source. Thought it was kind of an unspoken rule, but apparently not.

 

[Spike]

My twitters don't say anything either...

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

My twitters don't say anything either...

When you read what he wrote again, I'm pretty sure joemama is just making a comparison of bad situations for Kings. The Granger for Reke is just a hypothetical statement.


Back on topic, it seems that Petrie was preparing for losing Dalembert with the JJ Hickson trade. I know we got Salmons and all so keeping Casspi would've been a log jam at SF. But did they really care about making sure Donte Greene will see minutes?

Casspi was a very popular player both in the US and internationally. For them to give him up to get another big in Hickson kind of shows that the Maloofs probably have a number in mind. And if Dalembert ask for or gets offers of anything over that #, they would let him walk... because they have Hickson.

 

[est.1999]

I'm sick of this garbage. Seems like every player in the NBA think they're LeBron now.

For real. Dally can suck on one if he thinks he's that good.

 

[rainmaker]

When you read what he wrote again, I'm pretty sure joemama is just making a comparison of bad situations for Kings. The Granger for Reke is just a hypothetical statement.


Back on topic, it seems that Petrie was preparing for losing Dalembert with the JJ Hickson trade. I know we got Salmons and all so keeping Casspi would've been a log jam at SF. But did they really care about making sure Donte Greene will see minutes?

Casspi was a very popular player both in the US and internationally. For them to give him up to get another big in Hickson kind of shows that the Maloofs probably have a number in mind. And if Dalembert ask for or gets offers of anything over that #, they would let him walk... because they have Hickson.

I don't think getting Hickson was a potential replacement for Daly in any way, shape or form, nor do I think that had anything to do with the intent of the trade.

It was an opportunity to strengthen our frontline, more in particularly our pf spot, since JT can also swing to the center role, by adding quality young depth, while also drafting the player we wanted, and freeing up some of the logjam at the 3, by moving Omri, who I don't think figured in our plans going forward.

We took a flyer on Hickson, a young, talented pf, AND drafted Jimmer at a lower spot, while freeing up room on the wing. Don't see how Daly fit into the trade plans at all. They play different positions. May I ask, why it "seems" to you that that is why the trade was made. I see zero connection between the two.

 

[sidney]

So Houston can offer 4/40

We can offer 5/45...maybe with the last year partially guaranteed. Front load it with a signing bonus and have the salaries descend so he's only making 6-7ish at the end when Tyreke and Cousins are maxed.

Look away from the shiny little Barea light Petrie and put your money where it matters!

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

So Houston can offer 4/40

We can offer 5/45...maybe with the last year partially guaranteed. Front load it with a signing bonus and have the salaries descend so he's only making 6-7ish at the end when Tyreke and Cousins are maxed.

Look away from the shiny little Barea light Petrie and put your money where it matters!

Even with re-signing Sammy and Marcus, we'd still have plenty under the cap to throw at a Barea or another impact player

 

[rainmaker]

So Houston can offer 4/40

We can offer 5/45...maybe with the last year partially guaranteed. Front load it with a signing bonus and have the salaries descend so he's only making 6-7ish at the end when Tyreke and Cousins are maxed.

Look away from the shiny little Barea light Petrie and put your money where it matters!

I'd have no problem offering 5/50. I might go slightly higher, too, considering how much we'd suck defensively without him, and that a replacement will likely cost near that or more.

 

[Vlade4GM]

He's doing us a favor.

 

[Sac.1989]

not if we spend it on players like JJ and Hayes

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

I don't think getting Hickson was a potential replacement for Daly in any way, shape or form, nor do I think that had anything to do with the intent of the trade.

It was an opportunity to strengthen our frontline, more in particularly our pf spot, since JT can also swing to the center role, by adding quality young depth, while also drafting the player we wanted, and freeing up some of the logjam at the 3, by moving Omri, who I don't think figured in our plans going forward.

We took a flyer on Hickson, a young, talented pf, AND drafted Jimmer at a lower spot, while freeing up room on the wing. Don't see how Daly fit into the trade plans at all. They play different positions. May I ask, why it "seems" to you that that is why the trade was made. I see zero connection between the two.

GMs often have to think ahead and multi task. While JJ is not a full time center, he has played center for the Cavs at times, just as JT has done so for our team. I agree JJ strengthens the depth of our front court, but he does also add another big to our roster.

Whether JJ would ever end up playing center for us, it allows JT to play more mins at the 5 if we cannot resign Dalembert or any other comparable bigs. My point was that the trade provides insurance for the team and that has to be part of the reason they did it.