Colby Jones
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PorchSurfin
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When does he take Huerters spot?
Larry89
Disgruntled Kings Fan
Looks like a second round steal.. good size and vision for a guard.. has the ability to be a secondary play maker.. not sure if he can be a primary one yet. He might be able to take off a bit of that load off Monk and Davion when Fox goes out...Three point shot doesn't look as bad as people were making it out to be.
I also like Slawson's hustle and grit.. he may take some of Barnes minutes this season if he starts slow again.
I also like Slawson's hustle and grit.. he may take some of Barnes minutes this season if he starts slow again.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Sometimes guys just have it and he seems like a dude. As we build the roster out we will need to surround the big three with guys that do the little things and play with grit. He carries himself like a vet already. Quite remarkable
ockingsfan
Starter
If Colby keeps playing like tonight, he’s going to be pushing for that starting spot. Huerter may be looking at minutes as the backup 2/3 before long.
Telemachus
Starter
I said it on draft day, I would've been happy if the Kings had taken him with the 23rd pick. I was surprised he fell to the second round.
Telemachus
Starter
Kingz19
Hall of Famer
I really like his game and build..i’m not sure if his three ball is there yet(despite how well he shot last night) but he might turn out to be that elusive second round Monte hit.
Granted, most mocks had us picking him with our original first rounder anyway.
Potential to be a physically stronger and more versatile Duarte perhaps…but Duarte is a better shooter and we still don’t know how good Duarte can be overall.
Granted, most mocks had us picking him with our original first rounder anyway.
Potential to be a physically stronger and more versatile Duarte perhaps…but Duarte is a better shooter and we still don’t know how good Duarte can be overall.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
You say that now but wait until Walsh and the second-round pick Monty threw away come back to bite us
Kingster
Hall of Famer
The Kings should award minutes to Colby Jones very similar to what they did with Murray last year. You don't give minutes by the draft slot, you give it by production, and Jones's performance so far deserves consistent minutes in every game from here on forward, imo. Just like with Murray, you want him to learn the league this year so he can be ready for the playoffs. He's a true combo guard so it should be easy to find him at least 20 minutes/game.
There could easily be a very positive domino effect because of Jones taking minutes from others. All of a sudden McNair might have some real ammo to fire around the trade deadline.
There could easily be a very positive domino effect because of Jones taking minutes from others. All of a sudden McNair might have some real ammo to fire around the trade deadline.
Telemachus
Starter
Here's what I see. Huerter was a key component of our offense last year, and we struggled to fill that void when he played poorly. Duarte and Jones gives the Kings 2 players who can fill that role relatively well this season. I think that is why Monte traded for Duarte and Jones is simply ahead of schedule.
reptilexcq2
Bench
It's no coincidence that Colby Jones is this good. Look at this stats, his PERS is freaking high 19.0 or higher...right just below Fox and Sabonis. This mean his impact in the game is what stand out. He's already surpassed Huerte, Monk, Trey Lyle, Mitchell and even Keegan Murray and Barnes. How did he impact the game? He plays both end and impact on both end...he plays good defense, steal the ball, block shot, offensive rebound, assist and can shoot. There is a reason Mike Brown is giving him the key to handling the ball instead of Monk or Mitchell. Mitchell doesn't do much in pick n roll with the big guy...Monk seems to be effective only with Sabonis. But Colby is poise in pick n roll as well, has a feel for the spacing and able to do flooder better than all of them. He gives the Kings another option beside Fox in terms of pick n roll and make the Kings second unit off the floor much more effective. Mitchell's role might be reduced to just catch and shoot and DEFENSE only. Second unit coming off the bench when FOX sit is probably Colby Jones, Mitchell, Monk with Sabonis and Murray playing through the 1st quarter or Huerter in for Murray depending on how well Murray play. Huerter might not be a starter anymore due to his lack of impact in the game other than shooting. His defense is average at best. I like Duarte to start. Trey Lyle might be coming in when Sabonis take a breather or McGee depending on the match up. Vezenkov might not get minutes at all due to the talents that we have and his lack of role or impact on the floor.
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Kingster
Hall of Famer
I don't know about Duarte to start, but Colby is for real. McNair wants 2-way players and he got a gem in Colby.
ockingsfan
Starter
Agreed. I think Brown will give Huerter the starting nod (due to continuity) to start the season and he's going to get a few weeks to get his shot going. If he is still struggling going into December, I expect Brown to make a switch at that time.
Brown's going to go with who he thinks give the Kings more physicality and defense at the SG spot (Durate or Colby) if he makes a change. We need defense in the starting line up and there is really only the SG (Huerter) or PF (Barnes) spots that are up for debate.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
I'm not convinced that Jones is less of a shooter than Duarte at this point...and I'd be surprised if Brown has Colby behind him in the rotation going into the season
twslam07
All-Star
I highly questioned Colby Jones’ shooting success in his Junior year just like I questioned Davion Mitchell’s shooting success in his senior year. Below is a breakdown of their per40 min shooting stats throughout their college careers:
Mitchell
If his preseason shooting turns out to be the norm vs. the exception, we may have found a very good, long term fit as our starting SG (and is making peanuts for the next 4 years). He can …
It’s ultimately going to come down to his shooting (as with a lot of players in this league). If he can be a good shooter in this league, he’ll be an asset to this team.
Mitchell
- Fresh: .288 3P% (3.6 3PA) & .678 FT% (2.1 FTA)
- Soph: Red Shirted
- Junior: .324 3P% (4.3 3PA) & .663 FT% (3.3 FTA)
- Senior: .447 3P% (5.7 3PA) & .641 FT% (2.6 FTA)
- Fresh: .333 3P% (2.6 3PA) & .757 FT% (3.5 FTA)
- Soph: .292 3P% (2.5 3PA) & .680 FT% (5.0 FTA)
- Junior: .378 3P% (3.9 3PA) & .653 FT% (4.1FTA)
If his preseason shooting turns out to be the norm vs. the exception, we may have found a very good, long term fit as our starting SG (and is making peanuts for the next 4 years). He can …
- Handle the ball
- Pass/Playmake
- Run the PnR
- Cut effectively
- Rebound at a good rate
- Defend at a high level
- Defend multiple positions
- Impact the game with his high IQ/feel for the game
- Play unselfishly
- Matchup with big SGs with his size (6’4.5” w/o shoes, 6’8” wingspan, 8’7” standing reach, & 199 lbs)
It’s ultimately going to come down to his shooting (as with a lot of players in this league). If he can be a good shooter in this league, he’ll be an asset to this team.
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Yeah, the shooting form looked real real good in the preseason. And man... you add that to the rest of his game? That's a high high level role player.
Even if he doesn't get the shot to an elite level and just a passable one (32-34%), he still brings a lot of really intriguing intangibles that impact the game. Like a Josh Hart on the high end, Evan Turner on the lower end.
Best thing though is through the SL and the preseason, I'm fairly confident he's going to be an NBA rotation player. Which at pick 34, you can't complain about at all.
It's completely coming down to his shooting. He looks very comfortable with his shot in the preseason, but it's a really small sample size. He has to be able to do it for an 82 game stretch where fatigue and tired legs start to set in after a chunk of games.
Looking at his pathway as a starter on this team, I think he needs to shoot the 3 ball around 38-39%. He has the shoot the ball slightly above average in order for teams to complete buy into his 3pt shot being a legitimate weapon. He's a rookie coming into the NBA with big question marks regarding his shooting ability. As a result, teams are going to give him the Davion type of spacing where they'll just dare him to shoot all day because they don't respect his shot. They'd rather be beat by a wide open Colby Jones 3 than a 1 on 1 vs. Domas. It's going to be really important for Colby to build up his reputation as a shooter if we see him with long-term starter upside. It's why having Huerter is so important for our offense even when his shot stinks during a slump. He's still a threat to make it during every possession.
During his 6 games in the SL, he struggled shooting the 3 ball at only 27.6% on a good volume. During the pre-season before his explosion against the Jazz, he was only 4/14 from 3pt for 28.5% through 4 games. He's going to have to shoot a lot more consistently than that.
With that being said, I thought he looked great during the preseason. The jump shot looks very promising. He didn't hesitate to let it fly and looked very comfortable shooting when he was open. During his 4 game sample size without the Utah game, his percentage would've ever been higher, but he didn't credit for a long 2 where he had his toe on the line. As a rotational player on this team, all you really ask for is him to shoot open 3s and make them at a solid rate.
I think the most surprising aspect of his game was how quick he played. Was just moving faster on the court than everyone else. Pushing the ball up the floor, cutting hard, getting to his spots quickly. But always in control. In contrast to a guy like young Ben McLemore, with all the athleticism in the world, but just looked like a chicken with his head cut off out there. You kind of get a sense of guys with a good feel for the game. Trob was a good example in summer league where there was some pretty quick "uh-oh" moments that played out real fast into his rookie year.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Great post. One thing to add to this list is the fact that as a big combo guard he can do the "floating" shot. Against the Warriors he did a running one footed floater while diagonal to the basket. The guy guarding him is , according to Brown, one of the two best defending guards in the league - Gary Peyton II. Very impressive for a rookie.
reptilexcq2
Bench
It's not just shooting that we should look at to measure a player...his PERS is 19.0 which means he did a lot on the court...only behind Fox and Sabonis.
